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Episodes

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PROLOGUE: DECEMBER 31, 1999
EPISODE 1: JANUARY 1-9, 2000
EPISODE 2: JANUARY 10-16, 2000
EPISODE 3: JANUARY 17-23, 2000
EPISODE 4: JANUARY 24-31, 2000
EPISODE 5: FEBRUARY 1-6, 2000
EPISODE 6: FEBRUARY 7-13, 2000
EPISODE 7: FEBRUARY 14-20, 2000
EPISODE 8: FEBRUARY 21-29, 2000
EPISODE 9: MARCH 1-5, 2000
EPISODE 10: MARCH 6-12, 2000
EPISODE 11: MARCH 13-19, 2000
EPISODE 12: MARCH 20-26, 2000
EPISODE 13: MARCH 27-31, 2000
EPISODE 14: APRIL 1-9, 2000
EPISODE 15: APRIL 10-16, 2000
EPISODE 16: APRIL 17-23, 2000
EPISODE 17: APRIL 24-30, 2000
EPISODE 18: MAY 1-7, 2000
EPISODE 19: MAY 8-14, 2000
EPISODE 20: MAY 15-21, 2000
EPISODE 21: MAY 22-31, 2000
EPISODE 22: JUNE 1-4, 2000
EPISODE 23: JUNE 5-11, 2000
EPISODE 24: JUNE 12-18, 2000
EPISODE 25: JUNE 19-25, 2000
EPISODE 26: JUNE 26-30, 2000
EPISODE 27: JULY 1-9, 2000
EPISODE 28: JULY 10-16, 2000
EPISODE 29: JULY 17-23, 2000
EPISODE 30: JULY 24-31, 2000
EPISODE 31: AUGUST 1-6, 2000
EPISODE 32: AUGUST 7-13, 2000
EPISODE 33: AUGUST 14-20, 2000
EPISODE 34: INTERLUDE – AUGUST 27, 2000
EPISODE 35: AUGUST 28-31, 2000
EPISODE 36: SEPTEMBER 1-10, 2000
EPISODE 37: SEPTEMBER 11-17, 2000
EPISODE 38: SEPTEMBER 18-24, 2000
EPISODE 39: SEPTEMBER 25-30, 2000
EPISODE 40: OCTOBER 1-8, 2000
EPISODE 41: OCTOBER 9-15, 2000
EPISODE 42: OCTOBER 16-22, 2000
EPISODE 43: OCTOBER 23-31, 2000
EPISODE 44: NOVEMBER 1-5, 2000
EPISODE 45: NOVEMBER 6-12, 2000
EPISODE 46: NOVEMBER 13-19, 2000
EPISODE 47: NOVEMBER 20-26, 2000
EPISODE 48: NOVEMBER 27-30, 2000
EPISODE 49: DECEMBER 1-10, 2000
EPISODE 50: DECEMBER 11-17, 2000
EPISODE 51: DECEMBER 18-24, 2000
EPISODE 52: DECEMBER 25-31, 2000
EPILOGUE: DECEMBER 31, 2000

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Behind-the-Scenes Episodes

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PROLOGUE: DECEMBER 31, 1999

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 0.1

(New Year’s Eve 1999. A flat in north London. A crowded party. Everyone is very drunk. Door opens. JESS and KAT sneak into a room, JESS wants to show KAT something on the computer. Giggling. Party noises.)

JESS

Come on! Close the door!

(door shuts, party noises abate)

KAT (giggles)

What? I wanna party like it’s 1999! (tries to sing the Prince song but can’t remember the words)

(JESS sits down, computer clicks, modem dial-up tone)

JESS

(distracted) Well it won’t be 1999 for much longer… (mutters) Where is that link?

KAT

I think Johnno wants to *kiss* me. (makes kissy noises) He keeps staring at me. He’s ok I guess…

JESS

I want to show you what I found yesterday. (computer clicks) Look!

KAT

What? It’s just loading… charging… wait what’s it called?

JESS

Remember I’m leaving tomorrow? And that phone calls to New Zealand are expensive? Not to mention the time difference thing? (computer dings) Well, ta-da!

KAT

Ta-what? (sits down) Wait, (reads) Free Online Voicemail – the easy way to stay in touch… Catchy slogan (more serious, slightly more sober) You mean we can leave each other voice mails? For free??

JESS

Yup! I just need to figure out how to get internet once I’m in Auckland, and then we’re all set! Of course the dial-up connection costs a little, but —

KAT

(interrupts) That’s perfect! (suddenly sad) But I will miss you. So much.

JESS

I’ll miss you too my dear. Damn! We said no tears and I’m sticking to it! (beat) Look, I’ve set you up as KatLondon and me as JessAuckland, so we can find each other.

KAT

Damn! (holds back tears) I mean, that’s great. And I *am* happy for you. It’s just — (tries to be cheerful) what if some serious accounting person moves into your room and just kills all the fun?

JESS

And paints my walls cafe au lait? Yuck!

BOTH

And makes stinky tuna in the microwave! (laughter)

JESS

Oh God, he was awful, wasn’t he? What was his name? Lou? Lenny?

KAT

Lee. (starts saying something but stops herself) Actually I- Yes, good thing he moved out. (laughs)

JESS

You do know that you’ll have a say on the next flatmate, right?

KAT

I know. But I might get outvoted… Downvoted? You know what I mean.

JESS

I wouldn’t worry about it. (beat) Anyways, what were you saying about Johnno before? That he was looking at you?

KAT

Yeah. I mean, he’s nothing special really but with the luck I’ve been having… You know. It’s nice to be noticed.

JESS

Yeah. It’s just I’ve heard he’s not so nice to his girlfriends.

KAT

(laughing) I’m not going to be his girlfriend (laughs) so, no worries, OK?

JESS

Right. No worries. Wait, do they even say that in New Zealand or is it just Australia? Guess we’ll find out–

(door opens, party noise, fireworks)

JOHNNO

Kat! C’mon! It’s almost midnight!

KAT

Be there in a sec Johnno!

(door closes, party noises abate)

KAT

Maybe I’ll go out and grab that New Year’s kiss. (beat) Don’t worry, ok? It’ll be great.

JESS

OK. Let’s bring in the new year. (toast) Hey, maybe the world *will* end?

KAT

Nah! It’ll be fine. The year 2000 is going to be amazing!

JESS

Let’s go drink to that!

(They laugh. Door opens, party noise. Fireworks! Explosions!)

(OUTRO MUSIC)

Scene 0.2

KARIN

Hi! Karin Heimdahl, creator of Y2K and also voice of Jess here. Thank you so much for listening to our prologue. Episode 1 drops in January and we will have weekly releases throughout 2020. You will hear these wonderful folks:

(MUSIC)

KIRSTY

Kirsty Woolven as Olivia

JANIS

Janis Westin as Kat

KARIN

Karin Heimdahl as Jess

ADAM

Adam Blanford as Johnno

FELICITY

Felicity Boyd as Rachel

ANJALI

Anjali Kunapaneni as Shirin

SHEKENDRA

Shekendra Morgan as Maia

MADDY

Maddy Searle as Claire

ANNA

Anna Jartin as Tammi

LORCAN

Lorcan NicGiollaBhain as Bri

CHARLOTTE

Charlotte Norup as Kirsten

NERYS

Nerys Howell as Emma

KARIN

You can subscribe for free right now in your favorite podcatcher. Please find us on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number 2, and check out our website y2kpod.com for more information. This episode was part of International Podcast Month 2019. Please go to to internationalpodcastmonth.com to find out more about this wonderful celebration of podcasting. We will be back in January. For now, we leave you with the full song “Welcome to the Year 2000!” by Jake Haws, please check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more of his work.

OLIVIA

Thank you for listening, and welcome back when we return to the year 2000.

MANY VOICES

Welcome to the year 2000!… Welcome… Welcome… to the year 2000… to the year 2000… to the year 2000! Welcome to the year 2000!

(OUTRO MUSIC – Welcome to the Year 2000!)

EPISODE 1: JANUARY 1-9, 2000

(Intro music)

Scene 1.1

OLIVIA

Hey, um, I’m Olivia and this is the Y2K podcast! I’m a little nervous, I’ve never done anything like this before. But I guess I should tell you what this is all about… So a few days ago I managed to get my Mum’s old laptop working. I was hoping to find baby pictures of me, there are hardly any and I was just, well, curious. I rummaged around this really old black-and-white dodgy-looking interface and found — absolutely no baby pictures. No pictures at all actually. But I did find something el se. These old audio files, dozens of them, all labeled with dates from January 2000 onwards. It seems to be a conversation in voicemails between my Mum and a friend of hers, and I’ve only listened to a couple of them but they seem… interesting somehow. Though it’s weird to hear Mum so young – I’ll be 20 this year and she would have been about… 25 when this was recorded. Almost the same age. Cool. But so strange. Right I’m rambling. I thought this would make an interesting podcast. So… Here are the first two messages.

Scene 1.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(library ambience)

JESS

(whispering) Hi Kat! I’m here! And *so* jetlagged. New Zealand sure is a long way away. Sorry about the whispering, I’m at the library computer as I’m still staying in the hostel. Been calling ads for rooms to rent and think I have a few good leads. (muffled footsteps receding, speaks slightly louder) Right, the librarian is out of earshot so I can talk a little louder. Where was I? Yeah. Housing. Auckland is beautiful, it’s summer here and still warm. Flowers everywhere. Really messes with your mind after London winter. One thing I really didn’t grasp before I got here was how incredibly hilly Auckland is – on the map the hostel and the university seem really close together, but in reality there’s an incredibly steep hill between them! Downhill in the morning, thankfully, I couldn’t have coped with the other way around. Anyways, I guess that’ll be an important factor in deciding where to live – whether it’s uphill or downhill from school! Though – come to think of it – I guess I’m not going to be able to afford walking distance so maybe it doesn’t matter. I haven’t quite figured out the buses yet, but they seem  fairly straightforward. The flight was very long but uneventful. I got a little sleep on the first leg but on the flight to Auckland I got seated right behind the smoking seats and it was torture. I thought they’d banned smoking on airplanes. Ugh. Sorry. I know you’re a smoker, but you’re a considerate smoker (laughs). Remember that time –

RACHEL

Shh! This is a library you know.

JESS

Sorry! Almost done! (in lower voice) Let me know how you’re doing – what are you auditioning for? Any luck with the day-job-hunting? And are Shirin and Emma pestering you to let some annoying person have my room? Let me know! Love you! Bye!

(Clicks)

Scene 1.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess! Great to hear your voice! Feels like you are much closer than the other end of the world… London is gray. Or at least Wood Green is gray. (Sighs) I miss you. Emma and Shirin are great but they’re not you. And I miss working with you – even that awful Cinderella disaster — I mean that lovely panto — we did at Christmas. I’ve been auditioning for everything I can find but it’s always the same. You know. They want some really specific British regional accent that I just can’t do. Or perfect RP for that matter. Or else it’s two lines unpaid in something and 300 girls auditioning. (deep sigh) Anyway. I just want to run home to Trollhättan and bury myself in my old bedroom at my mother’s house and eat cheese. (groans) Sorry to be so depressing. (beat) I did find a bartending job, though. You know it’s not my favourite thing but at least it pays the bills, and I really really need that. The only thing is… it’ll mean working for Lee. You know, microwave-tuna-Lee? Stop laughing! He’s OK, really. He gave me a job so I have to think he’s OK, right? It’s five nights a week and the pay is OK. I start tomorrow. Also… I’ve been thinking about Johnno since New Year’s. You know we had that drunken kiss at midnight and it just… hit me, you know? Definite spark. But maybe I’m just so starved in that department that anything will get me going. We will see. OK, what else… Emma and Shirin have called a flatmates’ meeting tomorrow, so I guess I’ll find out then who they have lined up to move in. I know, I know, I’m supposed to have a say but Shirin’s nan does own the flat and I’m just not as good at standing up to them without you. They’re off to the pub in a bit but I said no, I’m just too… something. Not depressed but just down, you know? I’m just going to sit here and… be depressed I guess. (beat) Hang on. You would tell me to go to the pub. In fact, you would drag me there and cheer me up. OK. (laughs) Stop pestering me! I will follow your silent advice. Be right back! (footsteps, door opens, muffled yell) Shirin! Emma! Are you still here?

SHIRIN

 (muffled) We’re in my room!

KAT

(muffled) Don’t leave without me!

SHIRIN

 (muffled) All right but you’d better get a move on, we’re almost ready!

KAT

(Muffled) OK! (footsteps) Right, sorry Jess! Let me know how everything goes – what’s uni like? Did it start already? Are you meeting any nice people? I miss you! Bye! (clicks)

Scene 1.4

OLIVIA

Right, so that’s it for today. I hope you enjoyed it! I rather like hearing their voices from 20 years ago – before I was even born… Anyway. I’ll put these out weekly for as long as it’s fun I suppose. There are a LOT of these files, I haven’t counted them but I think they go until at least December. So, listeners, of which I as yet have none (laughs) did any of you know my mum or her friend around the year 2000? Do you know anything about the other people they mention? I’d like to get more of the story around these voicemails.  Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, or find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Our wonderful music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I guess I’ll put a link to that… somewhere. I’m still figuring out this podcasting thing. Right. (reads) Thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(click like something’s turned off but it’s still recording) (lets out a sigh) (mumbles) Too cheesy? Maybe. They might wonder why I don’t just ask my mum but… Well they can wonder. (deep sigh) Hang on, that light’s still on. (click)

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 2: JANUARY 10-16, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 2.1

OLIVIA

(reads) My name’s Olivia and this is the Y2K podcast – welcome to the year 2000! (beat) Yeah. Hey. That’s rather cheerful, isn’t it? Just trying to figure out how to open the podcast. Got any ideas? Answers on a postcard… Hang on, why do people say that? I think my parents say it, so I suppose it’s some old reference. They’re full of those. Anyway, e-mail me if you have any tips… I really don’t know what I’m doing. (laughs) So to recap I’ve found a bunch of files on my Mum’s old laptop, it’s 20-year-old voicemails between my Mum and a friend of hers, and I’m turning them into a podcast. And I’m calling it Y2K because that’s short for the year 2000, when the voicemails were recorded. Yeah. But you probably got that. (laughs) So. I’m back at uni and just had a Sedimentology lecture and it was all right I guess but I was just so tired and unfocused that I couldn’t really grasp what they were saying. Like the information just didn’t reach my brain. (sighs) Sorry. So last week (slight hesitation) Jess had just arrived in Auckland and was whispering in a library, while (slight hesitation) Kat was feeling blue back in London. And here is the second round of audio files from January 2000. They seem to be in completely opposite moods here.

Scene 2.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Jess! Oh I wish I could talk to you directly! Right now! I feel so great! (hums, speaks text) Livin’ La vida Loca… I’m living the ‘loca’ life over here! So, Johnno came to the pub Tuesday night, and he was… He was really cool. It was pretty quiet at the start of the night, and he just ordered a pint and sat there and talked to me when I wasn’t busy. And he’s really smart, you know, I never realized that. We talked about books and politics and theatre – of course we talked about theatre! And music – he’s a huge music nerd and listens to all sorts of stuff I’ve never heard of. We also ended up talking about TV shows, and of course I had to check – and he IS a Buffy fan – maybe even more so than I am! AND he has the first half of season 4 on video and so OF COURSE I invited myself over to watch it. Clever me, huh? So last night I went to his place – he lives in Chalk Farm and he has his own apartment! Haven’t quite figured out how he can afford that… He’s a musician. At least I think so? Yes, he’s in that band, you know? Plays bass? We did NOT talk about our jobs. OK, anyway, we did watch Buffy, like two episodes, you know ‘The Freshman’, and that one with the horrible room-mate – Kathy! – remember how angry we were with her? Anyway, Johnno and I kind of lost interest in TV somewhere around there and… Well it was seriously the best sex I’ve ever had, which is strange, right? But also absolutely amazing. And it wasn’t just sex, we talked. And got hardly any sleep… (serious) I know you’ve heard things about him. But it can’t be right. He’s lovely. And, you know, it’s only been one night – maybe he doesn’t want it to be anything more. Maybe *I* won’t want it to be more. We haven’t promised each other anything. So, no worries, ok?

(00s text noise) Oh! (pause) It’s him. (smiles) He wants to see me tonight! There’s a gig in Brixton – some band I’ve never heard of, but who cares! I have to figure out what to wear. Cross your fingers there’s more amazing sex tonight! (laughs) Love you – bye!

(clicks)

Scene 2.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Sorry! I mean, let me know what’s up with you – met anyone nice at university? And how is it anyway – it started this week, right? OK, really really wish you were here! Bye again!

(clicks)

Scene 2.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(library ambience)

JESS

Hi Kat. I’m happy you’re so happy. It makes me feel better too. And maybe you’re right about Johnno, maybe it’s all just rumours. But, please, be careful? Have as much sex as you like, but guard your emotions a little. (laughs) I feel like someone in an Austen novel saying that, though of course Lizzie never told Jane to have as much sex as she liked! Maybe she should have, huh? Anyways, remember you’re in that lust-fog now where you feel like you’re in love just because the sex is so good? Don’t trust that feeling! Wait ’til the fog lifts and then figure out what you want to do. All right? And of course congratulations on best sex ever – that’s great. (smiles) No, I’m not jealous. Or bitter. Lonely. Ugh. My dear I’m so happy for you, I’m just having a hard time. Moving to a new country – again – is just exhausting. I did all this when I moved to London five years ago, and it was mostly fun, you know, figuring out where the post office was and what milk to buy and how to get bus passes. I was so happy to be there – and so happy to NOT be in Edmonton – that it didn’t register as a chore. But now, I’m… kind of wondering if I did the right thing coming here. Maybe I didn’t think it through properly. I was just so happy to be accepted, and get the scholarship and everything, and — I was still reeling from the break-up. You know. I do want to do this, and I am sure I will learn a lot, but it’s just so hard. (verge of tears) Damn! I can’t cry in the library! (sniffles, pulls herself together) Yep, still in the library. I move into the new place on Friday. It seems good, the new flatmates are Maia and Tia, and they seem nice enough, just a little stand-offish you know? Like they’re happy to share a flat but don’t really want to hang out. Which is fine, of course, just — And on top of that I’ve now completed two whole days of the *Master of Creative Writing* and talked to exactly no-one apart from the registration person yesterday. (lowers voice) I thought Kiwis were supposed to be friendly, but so far, nope. (normal volume) I know, I know. Give it time. It will get easier. And I can’t give up after two days – I moved all the way to the other end of the world to do this after all. All that ocean between us. That’s actually wonderful here in Auckland – the sea is never far away, and some places are so incredibly beautiful I can hardly believe it. (footsteps approaching, whispers) Crap! Here’s the librarian! 

RACHEL

(kindly) You do need to keep it down you know.

JESS

Sorry! Again! I’ll be done in a sec–

RACHEL

What is that anyway, why are you talking to the computer?

JESS

It’s… I just moved here, so my friend and I are doing internet voicemails. To keep in touch. Phone calls to England are really expensive, and —

RACHEL (interrupts)

How clever! Sorry —

JESS (interrupts)

No, I’m sorry —

(They laugh)

JESS

Go ahead.

RACHEL

I forgot what — Oh! Just how clever, to do voice mails on the computer. I’ve never heard of that.

JESS

Yeah, it’s new I think. Pretty handy. (beat) I’m Jess, by the way.

RACHEL

Rachel. Good to meet you. (smiles) So you just moved here? You a student?

JESS

Yep. Creative Writing. Just started, so can’t really tell you anything about it.

RACHEL

(laughs) All right, I won’t ask. Yet anyway. Where are you staying?

JESS

At the hostel down the street right now, but I’m moving into a flatshare in Newmarket this Friday.

RACHEL

Newmarket’s nice, I hope you’ll enjoy — Oh! There’s someone waiting at the desk, I’d better go. Finish this quickly, right?

JESS

All right, thanks! (pause, footsteps retreating) Did you catch all that Kat? I actually talked to someone! And they were nice! I’ll try to take it as a positive sign. There are nice people here – maybe not kindred spirits like you… and Anne Shirley and Diana Barry (laughs) I’m all literary today, maybe some of the creative writing atmosphere is rubbing off on me after all. (laughs) Not that anyone’s mentioned Montgomery yet – or Austen for that matter. (laughs) The professors seem quite good actually. Though lots of work and super fast paced. We will see. So, my kindred spirit, take care of yourself, and don’t jump into anything too fast, right? Sending you hugs across all the oceans – oceans of hugs!  (laughs) Let me know how everything goes with Johnno, of course, and everything else. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 2.5

OLIVIA

Right. That’s – (stops herself) I’m glad she seemed happier toward the end there. But – (shudders) — all that sex talk. Do NOT wish to hear my Mum or her friends on that topic. It’s… just odd. I know they’re around 25 here and sex talk in your 20s is to be expected, but still. I don’t have to like it… Anyway. I’m still wondering if any of you knew my mum or her friend around the year 2000? Or maybe you know anything about the other people they hang out with? I’d like to get more of the story around these voice mails.  (reads, still a little uncertain) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Our wonderful music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. (comments aside from text) I’m doing episode descriptions now, so the link is there. This is Olivia, signing off. (reads, still a little uncertain) Thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 3: JANUARY 17-23, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 3.1

OLIVIA

(full of energy) Hey, this is Olivia and the Y2K podcast – once again I welcome you to the year 2000! But not quite yet (laughs) Today I’ve spent all day outdoors and it was very cold but so so beautiful. (laughs) Most of you probably wouldn’t enjoy looking at rocks for a whole day — outdoors — in January — in England, (laughs) but it really is my idea of bliss. Anyway. Happy you are coming with me on this peculiar trip into the past… Last week Kat was all aglow with lust and excitement and Jess was stressed out and met a librarian. And we’re now at the point where I haven’t actually listened to the voice mails in advance – I thought it would be cool if I listened along with you. So I have no idea what they’re talking about this week. Exciting, right? Let’s do it!

Scene 3.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi there Kat. Sooo… (sighs) I got a text from Claire saying she’s moving into my old room on Saturday. It’s fine. I’m fine. I guess she just wanted me to hear it from her, which is nice of her. But – I would really have preferred hearing it from you. I know, I know, you have a lot on your mind right now, walking on cloud 9 and all that (smiles) but, you know, it hurts. Damn! Claire and I spent a lot of time in that room when we were together, and it’s… painful… to think of her in there with her new girlfriend. Rose, she’s Rose. And not all that new anymore. (deep breath) And to think of them hanging out with all of you. Also it’s like Shirin and Emma have picked sides now – I thought they were more my friends than Claire’s and I talked so much to them, especially Shirin, you know,     after the break-up. Not as much as I talked to you, but, you know. And of course I get that you were steam-rolled into this, and it’s not your fault, I just – I just wish you had told me. Just –

(knock on door)

JESS

Yes?

(door opens)

MAIA

Hey, Jess, I’m out of milk, can I take some of yours?

JESS

Sure, go ahead.

MAIA

Hold on, are you all right?

JESS

Yes.

MAIA

No you’re not. What happened?

JESS

(strained laugh) You don’t want to hear my troubles. I’m fine. Or I will be.

MAIA

(sits down) Sure I want to hear your troubles. We don’t really know each other yet but I can’t let you be this miserable all on your own.

JESS

Right. Thanks. It’s – I just found out that my ex is moving into my old flatshare. Into my room. I lived there for almost four years and we spent a lot of time there together. And I – it’s just hard. It hurts! (starts crying)

MAIA

Oh, I’m so   sorry, that’s really rough. (pats Jess on arm) All right, cry if you need to. (pause, JESS cries, MAIA makes comforting noises) Was it recent? The break-up I mean?

JESS

Um… Four months ago?

MAIA

So it’s still quite fresh then. And raw. Did he treat you ok?

JESS

She. Claire. (surprised reaction from MAIA) Yes. And no. She was pretty decent about the actual breaking up with me – as decent as you can be I guess. But… we were supposed to be exclusive and I found out later she’d been cheating on me for at least a year. (near tears) With Rose, who became Claire’s new girlfriend three days after she broke up with me. So that was fun.

MAIA

That’s horrible. And now she’s moving into your old flat?

JESS

Yup. With my old flatmates. It – it feels like they’re choosing sides. Betraying me. (starts crying again) Re- Rep  lacing me.

MAIA

I’m so sorry. (pause, Jess cries) But they’re not replacing you, you know. If they are your friends they will stay your friends. Even if they are friends with… Claire, too.

JESS

(collects herself, deep breath) I know. (beat) You’re right.

MAIA

And you know, they say it takes at least a year to fully recover from a break-up. So maybe give yourself some time?

JESS

Yeah. (pause) Thanks for listening, Maia.

MAIA

(smiles) Anytime.

JESS

(beat) Hey Maia – how come you ended up in Auckland? You’re American, right?

MAIA   

I am. Lived here since I was 15, so almost an honorary Kiwi at this point. (smiles) My parents moved here for work, my Mom has relatives here. (beat) You going to be all right?

JESS

(shaky smile) I will be.

MAIA

Good. (gets up, stops at door) And hey, Jess?

JESS

Yeah?

MAIA

I’m glad you’re our new flatmate. (beat) Also, I guess Tia and I can stop pretending we sleep in separate rooms now.

JESS

Why– Oh! Right. Yes, you can definitely do that. (laughs) Why would you pretend you weren’t a couple?

MAIA

Homophobes.

JESS

(almost at the same time) Of course, sorry.

MAIA

They’re everywhere, and we really needed a new flatmate to make rent, and soon! So we decided to keep it quiet so we could suss you out a little. (catches herself) Sorry! Didn’t mean to flaunt my happy couplehood in the middle of your ex-crisis.

JESS

That’s ok. Gives me hope, I guess. That there *are* happy couples out there (smiles).

MAIA

OK. Good. I’m going to go text Tia to let her know we are officially outed. You sure you’re going to be all right?

JESS

Yes. Thanks. Don’t forget your milk.

MAIA

Thanks, Jess!

(door closes)

JESS

(back to computer) Hi again Kat. I seem to keep recording conversations with people for you. I- I feel better now. And I feel petty. I know you and Shirin and Emma can be friends with Claire AND me. It’s just — she hurt me so much and I guess I want her to be punished. And being denied your friendship would be a real punishment. Anyways. I’m rambling. As you could tell I’m in the flat now, and I guess I just figured out why Maia and Tia were a little stand-offish (laughs) Maia is so kind. This will be a good place to live. School is still a real challenge both socially and — increasingly — academically. They are so many books to read! So many writing assignments! But at least I’m not bored (smiles). So tell me what’s up with you – still on cloud 9? I miss you. And I love you. Sorry for being a petty grump. Sending oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 3.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Oh, Jess! I am so sorry! I forgot! I can’t believe I forgot. I’m an idiot. A bad friend. Shit. (deep sigh) I just feel horrible. I really tried to persuade Emma and Shirin to pick someone else, but — majority vote. I know Claire treated you like shit and I won’t be her friend, I promise! I’ll punish her with my non-friendship, so there! (rueful laugh) And you are not a petty grump. You are right. I should have told you. I meant to. But then I started this thing with Johnno and everything else just flew out of my mind I guess. (exasperated sound) I broke the friendship code! Sorry! Sorry sorry sorry! Shit. Hang on. (opens window, lights cigarette, blows out smoke) Smoking calms me down, you know. Johnno doesn’t like it, though, he says — Sorry. Never mind what he says. (inhales) Your new flatmate seems really nice. I’m glad you’ve moved in and that you have started to make yourself at home. I’m a little worried about your workload, though – remember final production at drama school when it got to be too much and you were just frantic and then you kept having panic attacks? Do not let it go that far. Ever again, please. OK? (inhales) Maybe I should recruit that nice flatmate of yours to keep an eye on you, huh? Don’t think I won’t! (Puts out cigarette, closes window) If there are no interesting people at uni maybe you should go back and talk to that librarian, she seemed nice. I miss you! I love you! And oceans of hugs – that’s perfect!

(clicks)

Scene 3.4

OLIVIA

(preoccupied) All right. That was pretty emotional. You know, I thought there would be only my Mum and her friend on these files, but other people seem to creep in as well. I haven’t decided yet if I like that or not. Will let you know. (beat) Anyway, I’ve gotten some e-mails. So I know at least four people are listening! (laughs) They were all about the same thing — which of the two friends is my Mum. A very reasonable question, really. But… I won’t tell you. Sorry about that. I’m not using any last names anywhere, and I want to respect my family’s privacy. I guess there could come a time when something in the recordings reveal some details, but I will deal with that when it comes. So you can speculate all you like but I will say nothing. I’ll just call them (very slight hesitation) Kat and (very slight hesitation) Jess. However I would still be interested to hear from you if you knew them around the year 2000? Or maybe if you know anything about the people around them? (reads, a little more confident) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. You can also check out our website at y2kpod.com – we have a website! Very exciting! Our beautiful music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 4: JANUARY 24-31, 2000

Scene 4.1

(INTRO MUSIC)

OLIVIA

Hey everyone, I’m Olivia and you are listening to the Y2K podcast – welcome to the year 2000! Wait, perhaps I should move that phrase to the end of this intro-thingy-ma-goob? Yes, I will try that. (clears throat) So, what’s up at my end… I’m taking Genetics this term, which is fascinating. I look at my parents, my grandparents, and at myself, and think about what is genes, and what is learned behavior. It’s especially interesting for me as I am only biologically linked with some of my family, yet I feel I have many similarities with all of them. In class we’re mostly studying genetic variation and not really heredity though. Anyway, are you ready for this week’s voice mails from the past? Last week Jess was freaking out over her ex moving into her old room, and Kat apologized for not telling her. All right. Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 4.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat. Thanks. And you don’t need to withhold your friendship from Claire, even though I really appreciate the offer. You’re going to be flatmates — from tomorrow I think — so you need to get on. But, you know, you don’t have to become best friends or anything, right? (laughs) Anyways. I miss you. Maia and Tia are great, and Tia lured me off to pilates the other day which was great — Right, two ‘greats’ in a row… They ARE great. I’m just not feeling so… great, I guess. (laughs) I drag myself to class and back and do the mountains of assignments – so far it’s not really that exciting but I think it will *get* really interesting down the line – but I don’t have energy for much else. (pause) I thought I was mostly over Claire but this has brought back all the old feelings again and I – I – it hurts so much. I don’t want her back but — how can it still hurt so much? How could I have trusted her? For that matter, how can I trust anyone? I can’t even trust my own judgement. (emotional sigh) It’s becoming very clear to me that I wasn’t ready for this. This moving to another country and starting a really challenging degree. That I was running away. (beat) No, that’s not the only truth. I want to do this and I want to immerse myself in creative writing, I want to learn all I can. I like acting a lot but it never really felt like *me* you know? But writing… I can imagine a whole world and make it come alive. I love that. Right. Sorry for being an emotional wreck. I will stick it out. I will make it work somehow. And yes, I will take care of myself. As should you, my dear. And you can tell me all about Johnno, you know. I wanna know. Right. I somehow feel better just talking to you. (smiles) Oceans and oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 4.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

(worried) Oh Jess. I’m so sorry you are hurting so much. You know, maybe it would be a good idea to find a therapist, just to sort through these feelings? I know you’ve found it helpful before. And yes, I know, expensive, and student budget and so on, but you cannot have less money than you did here, Auckland *has* to be less expensive than London, right? I mean, isn’t everywhere? Well except for places like New York I guess. So no excuses. Maybe your housemates could help you with where to start looking? OK? At least think about it. (pause) Aaaand… you asked about Johnno (laughs) Well, since you asked… It’s going very well. He challenges me, and I need that. He doesn’t let me get away with anything and I like it. You know I risk overpowering guys? Yeah, not him. And he comes up with all these fun things we can do – like yesterday he showed up at work – I was on the afternoon shift so finished at six – with tickets to The Globe that night! It was some obscure Shakespeare play I’d never even heard of, but it was amazing to experience The Globe properly – I hadn’t been yet as it’s a little expensive. Yeah… that’s one thing that is a little uncomfortable. He keeps treating me. He makes quite a lot of money at his day job – turns out he’s an IT-something-or-other – who knew? Anyway I as you know never have any money. I try to treat him sometimes when we’re at less expensive places, but he never seems to realize how even those minor costs create huge holes in my budget. OK, I know what you’re going to say – talk to him about it. And I kind of have, but maybe I need to try again. Hang on — I haven’t told you about our talk last week, have I? I – bravely, points for me! – brought up the where-are-we-heading-conversation. And it went pretty well. We decided we are ‘dating’ in the American sense, but not exclusively. Not that I can imagine being with someone else at this point – nor do I understand how we would have time to ‘date’ anyone as we spend so much time together. So, there we are. Not quite a relationship, but not just sex either. He’s been hurt in relationships before and wants to take it slow, which is fine by me. We —

(Bumps and thuds outside, voices, heavy things being carried)

CLAIRE

(muffled) Shirin! Kat! Emma! Anyone there?

(KAT opens door)

KAT

Hello Claire. Wow – that’s a lot of stuff.

CLAIRE

Yeah, could you give me a hand? Rose went downstairs to get the rest.

KAT

Sure, I just have something to finish up. I’ll be right there.

CLAIRE

Ta!

(Bumps and thuds resume, KAT closes door.)

KAT

Sorry Jess. I thought she wasn’t moving in until tonight. It’ll be OK, you know? It’s not like I’m here much anyway, I’m mostly at Johnno’s. So, take care of yourself. Breathe. Get a therapist. And no worries. All will be fine. OK? Love you!

CLAIRE

(muffled) Kat! Come help me with this desk!!

KAT

(to CLAIRE) Coming! (to JESS) Oceans and oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 4.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi again Kat. Wow. That was… weird. Actually hearing Claire move in. Yikes! But also good in a way. It’s done, I heard it, it’s happened. Right. Breathe. (breathes) You’re right. I’m going to talk to Maia and see if they know how to get hold of a therapist. And if not, maybe the student service centre could help. I — I was pretty close to a panic attack yesterday, but managed to breathe through it like that therapist taught me final year. (breathes) Anyways. I’m glad that Johnno makes you happy. Though this whole ‘dating non-exclusively’ thing seems a little… not you. You’ve always been a serial monogamist, or had casual flings where it’s been all about the sex. This seems… different. But I guess it could be a good thing you’re not committing, at least not yet, so you can keep being careful with your emotions. You are being careful, right? Please be careful? I don’t want you getting hurt. But I guess this could be a good way to have a bit of a trial period before deciding if you want to commit to him. Just make sure he is kind, right? If I learned one thing from the horrible break-up with Claire it’s that you need to be with someone who is kind and respects you. She tried to be kind but wasn’t very good at it. Also she really didn’t respect me. She didn’t-

(JESS’ mobile rings, 00s signal)

JESS

(looks at phone, agitated) I’d better get this. I think I was rambling anyway. (nervous laugh) Love you! Bye! (answers phone – beep) Hi-

(clicks)

Scene 4.5

OLIVIA

Oh, I wonder who was calling Jess? Hopefully we’ll find out next week. Anyway, I’m off to study my Genetics notes, we have a tutorial tomorrow. It’s fascinating but complicated, I need to make sure I have a firm grasp of the basics. So, dear listeners, I would still like to hear from you if you knew my mum and her friend around the year 2000? Or maybe if you know anything about their friends? (reads, more confident) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. You can also check out our website at y2kpod.com. Our tremendous music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. My name’s Olivia, thank you so much for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 5: FEBRUARY 1-6, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 5.1

OLIVIA

Hello listeners, this is Olivia and the Y2K podcast. I’m… hungover. Yeah. Wasn’t going to tell you that but I’m not very good at pretending. (smiles) Anyway I’m sure most of you can relate. I’m not that much of a party person but yesterday after class my friend Tammi dragged me to the pub and we were only going to have one pint, but we got to talking and had another and another and all of a sudden it was like 6 am and we’d been dancing and were very very drunk. It’s always like that when I hang out with her, she’s… magic I guess? (laughs, stops suddenly) Ow! My head. Yeah, I know. Only myself to blame. And Tammi, actually. I blame her! (very quiet laugh) Ouch. Wouldn’t be recording today but I couldn’t fit it in earlier in the week and this is supposed to go out tomorrow so I don’t really have a choice. I’m not about to mess with the podcast release dates. So you’re stuck with this hungover wreck today I’m afraid. (smiles) And that told you I was out all night on a Wednesday, yep, living the glamourous student life out   here in Brum… (yawns) All right, let’s get this started so I can grab some painkillers and some more water. Last week Kat wanted to talk to Johnno about money, Claire moved in, and Jess got a mystery phone call. Let’s hope they don’t yell a lot today! (winces, subdued) Welcome to the year 2000.

Scene 5.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Jess! Hello my dear. I can’t help wondering who called you – you don’t usually stop recording for anything… Interfering librarians and nosy flatmates included (laughs). Fill me in on what’s going on, OK? Oh, and did you ever meet that librarian again? She seemed nice. Also I hope you’re feeling better. Claire is all moved in, and it’s pretty strange having her living here. Though she spends some time at Rose’s as well so at least she’s not here all the time. And I’m at Johnno’s quite a lot, so that helps. Emma and Shirin are acting like Claire’s a nice normal person but I just can’t. She was awful to you. Though I realize I do have to get on with her so I’m trying to find that ice-cold-but-cordial mode. Not easy! Sorry. Maybe you don’t want to hear this. Let me know, OK? And I’ll shut up about it. Hang on. (opens window, light early afternoon traffic noise, lights cigarette, inhales smoke, lets it out) Ah… Let’s see, Johnno and I are going to see some band called (tries a few different pronounciations) Queensrike- Queensrush- Queensryche? Anyway, see them at Brixton Academy on Sunday. You know I’m always up for trying new things, but progressive metal? Yeah, I’m a little skeptical. Actually a lot skeptical. (laughs, inhales) Johnno says the lead singer has a really powerful and emotional voice, whatever that means (laughs). But he thinks I will like it, so I’ll give it a go. (hums Genie in a Bottle) Christina Aguilera, now *there’s* a powerful and emotional voice! But it should be fun.   (inhales) I’m fairly happy working at the pub, Lee is a pretty chill  manager, and the people are friendly but not out to be my new best friends. You know. Nice. Also it’s only moderately popular so it’s never too busy, even on Fridays and Saturdays. (puts out cigarette, closes window) And I’m auditioning, of course, but it feels pretty hopeless. Rejections piling up and, well, it hurts. Especially the theatre ones where I know it’s a long shot but I still have to invest in the play and the character in order to audition. And for a moment I feel as though the part is mine and I think about how wonderful it will be and then – boom – I fall back into reality again. Maybe I should have become an engineer like my mother (laughs) – no! I would hate that! (laughs) – or you know something more sensible where it was possible to get an actual *job*. (beat)What am I saying? I love acting. I want to act. I will act.  I just need to convince someone to hire me. Easy-peasy. (beat) Yeah.  I was rejected for a Moliére maid today, can you tell? (smiles) I’ll be back to my optimistic self in a day or two. OK, I’m off to work now, take care my dear, and let me know what’s up with you. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 5.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, you always know when something’s off, don’t you? I should have told you who called but I froze. It was Mom. Yeah, I know. My estranged mother. You know I cut my parents off after I came out and they — well, didn’t? Hardest damned thing I’ve ever done. And then London and drama school and you and Claire and I felt like the world was the right way around again. (beat) What I never told you – I didn’t know how – is that Mom reached out to me last year right before final production. She was… civil? And she’s been calling me now and then ever  since, chatting, steering clear of all the no-go-zones. And I’ve picked up her calls. I thought maybe we could — I don’t know. Be something to each other — have some sort 

of relationship again? I wanted to talk to you about it but it felt so unreal and somehow so delicate, like the slightest draft would disintegrate it. I can’t explain it any better than that. So I’ve talked to her about her gardening and her church friends and my studies, you know, safe things. And it’s been nerve-wracking and difficult but also good. Good to be in some sort of touch again. But the other day I happened to mention that things were a little tough at school and she freaked out and started some weird rant about how I should have stayed in college and in Edmonton. (angry tears) I dropped out five years ago! (beat) I let her rant on for a while but then I made up some excuse and finished the call. Kat, I don’t know what to do. Everything is hard work right now, and I can’t handle this on top of everything else. I think I’ll have to not pick up her calls. At least for a while. (sighs) Oh, but   you’d be proud of me, I found a therapist through the university health services – they were incredible. I have an appointment next week, I hope they’re good. Let’s see, what else is going on… Sunday is Waitangi Day here, like the New Zealand national day, but apparently it’s also controversial as many are protesting celebrating a day commemorating a treaty where the Māori people lost their land. Maia and Tia have some Māori friends, and they’ve invited me to join as they visit them for a Hāngī. I’m sure it will be delicious! And the Monday after that is a bank holiday, so I am abandoning my writing assignments and reading for the day and we are heading to the beach! I’ve spent surprisingly little time at the beach since coming here and it’s time to remedy that before fall comes and it’s too cold. Anyways. Have to go write ‘an emotion through the description of a tree’. Yeah, that makes no sense. I’d better go find a really good tree! And.. hug it? (laughs) Good thing I like trees! Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 5.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Jess! (laughs) I love that! An emotion through a tree!! You have to e-mail me what you come up with – I must read this! Are all your assignments like that? Sounds about as cuckoo as drama school! Amazing! (hums “Don’t Sit Under the Apple Tree”) I’m having a great day, Johnno and I slept in and had brunch at this wonderful café and then went to the London Aquarium – you know I love aquariums but I’d never been to this one as it’s silly expensive. Yeah. Guess who paid… (sigh) Anyway it was magical. Such beautiful blue light through the water and colorful fish and scary sharks swimming by and just so… so mesmerizing – Ha! Vocab word! Remember at drama school I was trying to expand my English vocabulary and you found those “weekly vocab” lists? And then you quizzed me every Friday afternoon at the pub? Thank you! Apparently I learnt something! Mesmerizing! Though I still don’t think I’ve ever used ‘bucolic’ or ‘binomial’ in a sentence. (laughs) But I know what they mean! And I know those were both in week ‘B’! Anyway. (more serious) Thank you for telling me about your mother. And I’m so sorry you are hurting. You really didn’t need that on top of everything else. I’m crossing my fingers your new therapist is all right. More than all right – amazing! OK? You don’t need to pick up your mom’s calls if they just stress you out. On the other hand, I get that just her calling will stress you out regardless. Try to relax this week-end, and have fun with Maia on Waitangi Day. I’ll just have to admit that I’d never heard about it before. But I hope it is wonderful, and that you have a lovely day at the beach on Monday! OK, looking out at the grey rain that is London and wish I could teleport over and join you! I have to rush to work – in the freezing sideways rain! Love you! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 5.5

OLIVIA

All right, I’m back. Headache is receding slightly but now I’m nauseous. (groans) Better wrap this up. So, Jess’s mum is being horrible and Kat’s been looking at fish. (sigh) I am never drinking again. Ever. Um, so e-mail me if you know anything. About anything. (reads, a little too quickly) You can reach me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Check out our website at y2kpod.com. Our exhilarating music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. My name’s Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000. (relieved) All right, I’m gonna go lie down somewhere…

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 6: FEBRUARY 7-13, 2000

Scene 6.1

(INTRO MUSIC)

OLIVIA

Hello listeners, this is Olivia with the Y2K podcast. Feeling much better this week, thank you for asking. Will go easy on the beer for a while though (laughs). So, next term I am going on an exchange somewhere, to study Geology and Palaeontology at a university overseas, and do lots of exciting field work. Listening to these files makes me really want to go to New Zealand. Maybe it’s that they’ve been talking about summer and beaches and February is unusually dreary here this year, but maybe it’s that it sounds interesting. Beautiful. Challenging. Not that Jess has been very happy there so far. (beat) Anyway. We’re supposed to hand in our preferences next week, and I might just put University of Auckland at the top of my list… We’ll see what happens. Wherever I end up, I hope to continue with this podcast for as long as it’s fun, and there seem to be files available for at least the whole year of2000! What I’m trying to say is I’ll bring my mic and laptop and the podcast will continue. All right? So last week Jess’s mum had been calling from Canada and ranting at her, and Kat was feeling pessimistic about her future as an actor but had a great time at the aquarium. Let’s dive into this week, shall we? Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 6.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

 Kat! I wish you *could* have teleported over! I had the most incredible long week-end and somehow getting over Claire and Mom being (beat) her awful self again – feels a little further away. Still hurts like hell but not quite *bleeding* anymore, you know? So we went to see Maia’s and Tia’s friends and had the most wonderful time. We had a really fun, relaxed night. And today we’ve been at the beach in Devonport along with every other city dweller … But it was fine, there was a lot of people but it somehow didn’t feel very crowded, and we splashed and swam and lay around in the shade reading – I realized I hadn’t read an actual novel – well apart from those I read for school – since the flight over here – no wonder I’m not feeling myself! So I picked up a Stephen King – “The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon” – and it was good. Not his best, but *definitely* not his worst. And King is perfect for a beach read, completely immersive and trilling yet the scary bits are tempered by calming waves and gentle breeze and golden sand. It was so beautiful, Kat. (beat) I’ve decided to not pick up if Mom calls again. At least not for a while. I need to deal with everything else before I – maybe? – deal with her. But today at least I feel ready –

(sound of door being unlocked, opened, in distance)

MAIA (muffled)

Jess? You there?

JESS

In my room!

(knock on Jess’s door)

JESS

Come on in, I’m just-

(door opens)

MAIA

Hey Jess, we’re making ratatouille, you want to join us?

JESS

Hi…

MAIA

Oh, this is my friend –

JESS

(smiles) Rachel, right?

RACHEL

(smiles) And you’re Jess.

MAIA

You know each other?

(Jess and Rachel speak at the same time)

JESS

Not really, we met-

RACHEL

Sort of-

(Rachel and Jess laugh)

RACHEL

Jess came to the library a while back. I had to tell her off for being too loud. (smiles)

MAIA

(laughs) Well I can start on dinner if you two want to… (smiles) I don’t know – talk about books? Make a collage? (laughs, goes to kitchen).

RACHEL

(distracted by Jess) Sure, thanks. (gestures to bed) Can I-

JESS

Sure!

RACHEL

(sits down on bed, rustling, smile) So it was *this* Newmarket flat you were talking about. How did you find it?

JESS

Oh, newspaper listing. I’ve been really lucky, Maia and Tia are great. Have you known them – or Maia – long?

RACHEL

A few years, since Maia started working part-time at the library.

JESS

Right! I’d forgotten they do that. I always just see them knitting enormous yarn with their arms or hand-dyeing fabric or stuff like that, and then –

RACHEL

(interrupts) Then all of a sudden they’ve turned it into incredible art!

JESS

Exactly! Don’t know how they manage to do that every time, but their stuff is so cool.

RACHEL

I don’t know if you noticed the huge blue-green-sparkly thing by the entrance of the library?

JESS

Of course! That one’s incredible. Plus it has Maia all over it. Wow.

RACHEL

(nodding at book) So, what are you reading?

JESS

(hands Rachel book) Stephen King. Just finished it today.

RACHEL

(pages rustle) Any good?

JESS

Pretty good. Not his best, but you know –

RACHEL

Not his worst either?

JESS

(laughs) How did you know I was going to say that?

RACHEL

I’ve read a *lot* of Stephen King. Some of them are- (hesitates)

JESS

Barely readable?

RACHEL

(laughs) Exactly. Haven’t read this one though. Can I borrow it?

JESS

Yeah. I-

MAIA (muffled)

Can you two stop flirting and come give me a hand?

JESS

We weren’t-

RACHEL

(interrupts) Weren’t we? (smiles) Coming?

JESS

Yeah. (remembers) Oh! I just have to finish up my message to Kat. To my friend Kat. In London. Where it’s raining. Probably. (stops herself) I’m babbling.

RACHEL

You are. Kind of dadaist (beat) but I like it. (smiles) Thanks for the book. I’ll go help Maia. See you in the kitchen. (leaves with book)

JESS

Yeah. See you… (sits down, to Kat) Hey Kat. That was Rachel. Again. She’s- She’s- Wow. Yeah. She just showed up in my room. Well you heard that. And she’s wonderful. Right. I have to go. Let me know what’s up with you – love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 6.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, so glad you had a good week-end! I almost felt like I was there with you! And I can’t believe Rachel is friends with Maia. So… flirting, huh? (laughs) I get that you have other things going on, but there was some definite chemistry there. Anyway. I keep asking you about uni and you keep not saying much, apart from it’s a lot. So how is it really? Assignments, professors, fellow students? Is it all day every day lectures or seminars or – I don’t know – feedback sessions or group assignments… Or is it more you completing a ton of writing assignments on your own? See? I have no clue. Also you have to send me a picture of your room once you feel like you’ve made it yours. What does your neighborhood look like? What do you see when you look out of your window? You know exactly what *I’m* looking at after all… Same old Wood Green. (sighs) Johnno’s on a business trip this week. In Florida, lucky bastard. I miss him. So much. In such a short time he’s become really important to me. To the point where I don’t like sleeping alone, and I put off going to bed so I don’t have to. Last night I got home from work at midnight and had this idea for new earrings, so I started bending wire and fiddling with beads and then all of a sudden it was 4 in the morning… Yeah, not good for my sleep! But it was so much fun, and I haven’t had time to make anything for a while… Anyway, he needs to come home so I get more sleep! Not very romantic perhaps, but I’ve always been more pragmatic… Johnno’s pretty damned romantic, though. He keeps hinting at something he’s planning for Valentine’s day next week, but he won’t tell me what. (smiles) So that should be fun. What else? Claire hasn’t re-painted your room yet, I think she likes the grey. You know she- Never mind. Also I got my hair cut by some student at Toni & Guy, so it only cost 5 pounds. But I had very little say in what they did, so now I have trendy-ish asymmetrical hair. It’s not what I would have chosen, but it’s kind of cool. She wanted to dye the roots dark too, which I thought was a funny idea. Anyway her instructor said no, and she just did highlights. Very relieved at that, you know how I hate when my hair grows out blonde under a darker color and it just looks like I’m bald? Yeah, saved by the bell I guess! OK, I should finish this up. Let me know what your therapy appointment was like. And take care of yourself. OK? Love you! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 6.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, so… I saw my therapist today. It was a guy, which was a little weird. I’ve only had female therapists before. But I decided to give him a chance and told him about Claire, and Mom, and coming here, and feeling out of place. All the stuff. And he was pretty good. I mean, there was a *lot* for him to take in all at once, and he made lots of notes, but he listened, and the responses he gave me     made sense, and I feel like I can talk to him, so, yeah. Pretty good overall. I’m seeing him again in three weeks. Things are better, but they’re not great. I guess I haven’t been talking about school because I don’t know what to say. It’s pretty good, but… I expected it to be incredible. So, yeah. (beat) Anyways. We usually have lectures and/or seminars every weekday morning. Most of them are interesting, some are very very boring. We have this one professor who cannot structure the discussions, which means the – few! – wackos in my discussion group completely take over, and bring up their own specific hobbyhorses which have little or nothing to do with what we’re actually supposed to be talking about. Drives me up the wall. He’s a great lecturer, and seems very nice, but he’s so useless at structure. He gave us the ‘emotion through a tree’-assignment, which was weird but interesting – I will e-mail it to you, have to remember – and when half of us had handed it in he told the other half they needn’t bother as one or two had objected to the assignment. So why give it out in the first place?? Yeah. Then in the afternoons we have feedback sessions in groups, and also individually once a week, and time to read and write. It’s actually ´-

(JESS’ mobile rings, 00s signal)

JESS

Better not be Mom- (looks at phone, surprised) Oh! It’s Bri, I have to get this – I’ll get back to you! So sorry to do this again! (answers phone – beep) Hi Bri!

(clicks)

Scene 6.5

OLIVIA

Aaaall right… Who is Bri? Maybe we’ll find out next week! I got an e-mail from someone named Cassandra in Wellington, she says she lived in Auckland twenty years ago and might have known Jess, but she’s not sure – she says there were a lot of Jess’ and Jessicas around the university at that time. She’s going to follow the podcast to see if she picks up any other clues. Thank you, Cassandra! So, please check out our webpage y2kpod.com, you can go there for more info, and, of course, to listen to episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts (what used to be iTunes), Google Podcasts, Spotify and most other podcatchers. Isn’t that a great word – podcatcher! Like you stick it up in the air and it catches random podcasts for you! I learned that today listening to the Oz 9 podcast. It is so funny! It’s about a doomed spaceship – the Oz 9 – with a completely useless but hilarious crew. You should listen, they could make anyone laugh! Also their AI’s named Olivia, which is just… a really great name (laughs). So… If anyone – like Cassandra – thinks you might have known Kat or Jess or their friends around the year 2000 I would be very interested to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Our amazing music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. I’m Olivia, (reads) thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 7: FEBRUARY 14-20, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

OLIVIA

Hey everyone, Olivia here. After listening to today’s voice mails I feel I need to put some kind of warning here. This episode contains descriptions of a suicide attempt, as well as descriptions of homophobia and transphobia. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 7.1

OLIVIA

Hello, my name is Olivia and this is the Y2K podcast. (beat) How are you today, listeners? I’m fine, a bit of a cold, pouring rain so not much fun outdoors… So yeah. February in Birmingham! A bit grey and dull really. I hope you are somewhere nicer – I saw the other day that I have a listener in Singapore, which is just… WILD. And great – thank you so much for listening! Either way, I am sure it’s warmer there – but maybe it’s monsoon season? Let me check (grabs her phone to google) Blimey, it rains more than here! But, yes, warm. And humid! All right, suddenly not so jealous of your weather, listener in Singapore! But I bet Singapore is brilliant in any weather! All right, let’s get to the story, shall we? Last week Jess had a great week-end and talked to someone named Bri, and Kat missed Johnno and got a haircut. Today I hope we find out who Bri is! Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 7.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess – Happy Valentine’s Day! In Swedish it’s “All Hearts Day” which I love – gets me thinking about *all* the people I love and not just one romantic partner. And so of course I want to check in with you! So… haven’t heard from you for (jokingly) *four whole days*. What’s up? Anything going on with Bri and your family? Your mother bugging Bri this time? You OK? It’s not like you were dancing around like Julie Andrews in the hills of Austria last I heard from you… (hums “The Hills Are Alive”) So let me know, OK? Let’s see… I just auditioned for a toothpaste commercial, have no clue why – yes I do, it’s paid work. And at least toothpaste is something I actually use – remember that weird viagra thing we auditioned for last year? So very happy neither of us got that one! What were we thinking? And it was everywhere – still is I think – and the girl who got it didn’t want to go out for months. (laughs) Or so her flatmate told me, anyway. Poor thing. (beat) Still haven’t talked to Johnno about the money-thing. Everything else is good and I don’t want to rock the- wait, what is that saying? Rock the… cradle? No, bridge? Boat? No, doesn’t sound right. You know what I mean. But, yeah, I’m falling for him. How could I not? He’s smart and cute and fun and takes care of me and… I like him. And he doesn’t let me get away with stuff, you know? I need that. Remember my wimp of an ex? Don’t want to deal with that again. (beat) Work is OK. I’ve gotten some afternoon shifts lately which is much quieter. It’s nice in a way, but also a little dull. I –

(Door opens)

JOHNNO

Kat! (sees her, happy) You’re here! (gives KAT a big kiss) Miss me?

KAT

(befuddled but pleased) Johnno! Yeah, but… I thought we were meeting at seven?

JOHNNO

I just missed you . (kisses the top of her head) And… Surprise! I have tickets to see The Hives at six! Happy Valentine’s Day!

KAT

(still taken aback, but happy) Wow. Thank you! That’s great. (smiles) Though I’ve never heard of them.

JOHNNO

(laughs) They’re Swedish, I thought you’d know all about them!

KAT

Really? (laughs) Nope! (beat) Um, I was going to- never mind. (beat) Oh, but I only got you this silly little thing, I should have –

JOHNNO

(interrupts) That’s OK sweetheart, you can buy dinner! (kisses KAT)

KAT

OK. Right. (beat) When do we have to leave?

JOHNNO

(looks at watch) Half an hour? It’s at the Astoria. (beat) Hold on, what did you do to your hair?

KAT

Oh yeah, I had a haircut. Toni & Guy. What do you think? (twirls)

JOHNNO
(thinks) Hm. I liked you with longer hair. And… (takes a closer look) It’s lopsided?

KAT

(taken aback) It’s supposed to be asymmetrical.

JOHNNO

All right. (laughs) Never mind. It’ll grow out. (hugs KAT again, nuzzles her neck) So what should we do now?

KAT

(a little happier, slowly) Well… (remembers) Oh! I was in the middle of leaving a voice mail for Jess, let me just finish up.

JOHNNO

All right then. (kisses KAT, to computer) Hi Jess! Hope everything’s good in New Zealand! (to KAT) I’ll just grab a magazine and wait for you. (rustle of magazine, quick peck for KAT, settles down on KAT’s bed)

KAT

OK. (to computer, clearly uncomfortable that Johnno stayed in the room) Um, hi again Jess. So, that was Johnno. But you heard that. Yeah. Where was I? Oh. Update. I didn’t get the Ayckborn play, did I even tell you I auditioned for it? (JOHNNO’s magazine pages rustling) They called me back, but I found out yesterday they’d cast someone else. It wasn’t a huge part, but it was some pay and I like Ayckborn. Also a small tour which would have been fun.

JOHNNO

(from behind his magazine, slightly muffled, distracted) But I would have missed you, sweetheart.

KAT

(pleased at the sentiment but annoyed at the interruption) Yeah. But it was only a week, I think we could have managed a week. (nervous laugh, back to JESS) I think that’s it. Take care of yourself, and let me know what’s up with Bri and… everyone. Also, remember to e-mail me that thing we talked about.

JOHNNO

(from behind his magazine, slightly muffled, distracted) Sounds like you’re talking in code, sweetie, just pretend I’m not here.

KAT

(annoyed but tries not to show it) OK. (beat) Love you, Jess, hope to hear from you soon. B-

JOHNNO

(sits up, lays down magazine) You tell your friends you love them?

KAT

Yeah. Well mainly Jess, we’ve been friends a long time. (beat) And I do love my friends, why shouldn’t I tell them?

JOHNNO

It sounds so… American.

KAT

Jess is Canadian. (beat) I guess technically that’s on the American continent. North American continent. The American continents? Anyway. You say that like it’s bad. 

JOHNNO

No, no I guess not. (pause) You’ve never said it to me.

KAT

And you’ve never said it to me.

JOHNNO

I… I’ve told girls I loved them before. And they’ve hurt me. So I suppose I’m careful with it now.

KAT

(slowly) O–K

JOHNNO

And we’re not there.

KAT

I guess we’re not, no.

JOHNNO

(hugs and kisses KAT) You’re my sweetheart! Isn’t that enough?

KAT

Of course.

JOHNNO

(looks at watch) We have to run – are you ready?

KAT

OK, just let me get my things. (noise of grabbing purse, jacket)

JOHNNO

Let’s be off!

(door opens and closes, footsteps. Pause. Running feet, door thrown open)

JOHNNO

(muffled) Get a move on!

KAT

Sorry! Bye Jess!

(clicks)

Scene 7.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, sorry about the radio silence… And for hanging up on you, twice. Ugh. Sorry again. Bri was really upset. And so far away. I was inches from calling the emergency services in Edmonton from the landline and get them to send an ambulance over. But in the end I didn’t, just kept her talking. Down from the ledge as it were. Literally. Bri had the sleeping pills on hand. Kat, it was so scary!! (swallows, pause) My wonderful parents have done it again. To Bri this time. I am so fucking angry! Furious doesn’t even begin to cover it. Bri and I have been e-mailing since I left – neither of us can really afford the phone calls – but you know it’s been occasional, we’re both busy, and she’s graduating college this year – or was supposed to — OK I’m stalling. (beat) Bri finally came out to our parents as transgender. Which they should have figured out years ago, but they are not exactly perceptive… And they took it, well, not at all really. They closed off and asked Bri to leave and not come back. Perfect parents, right? God I hate them. (yells) I HATE MY PARENTS. (pause) So Bri is coming here. I booked hi- fuck! her a plane ticket on my credit card – have to deal with that one later – and am going to meet her at the airport in a few hours. Bri’s roommate helped pack and made sure she got on the plane. And Maia and Tia have agreed to let her stay here for a while – they even cleared out their study so Bri can stay there. They really are the best flatmates ever. Thank God for them. Or – I don’t believe in God. At least not my parents’ awful patriarch with a big beard and even bigger prejudices. Ugh! Wish you were here, Kat. I need someone to hold my hand through all of this. Bri is in really bad shape and I’m not sure we know each other that well anymore. Haven’t seen her for over five years and we’ve only talked on the phone like once a year. But I love Bri. And I will protect her and support her with everything I’ve got. (long pause) So that’s my news… Oh, and school is tough still but starting to get really interesting. Also I’ve finally started making some acquaintances – we started some group assignments and it seems everyone else in my group were as freaked out by the workload as I was and didn’t really talk to anyone else either. Anyways. (beat) That was an… interesting conversation you and Johnno had. How do you feel about that? The ‘love’ thing? And — sorry about the Ayckbourn play. You would have been great, and they’re silly not to see it. So there. Right, I’m gonna finish up here – have to grab lunch before I get Bri. I MISS you! I love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 7.4

OLIVIA

All right. So now we know who Bri is. I – (stops herself) I wonder if Bri turns up somewhere. Her voice I mean. I suppose we will find out. (looks outside) I think I will finish this now and defy the rain and go running – I always feel better after a good run. (lightly) It’s not like I’m going to celebrate Valentine’s Day – it’s a silly meaningless capitalist construct. (slight laugh, cheerfully) Also there is zero romance in my life, and that’s the way I like it.  I have other things to occupy my time. So, listeners, check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you think you may have known Kat or Jess or their friends twenty years ago I would be super  interested to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. My name’s Olivia, (reads) thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 8: FEBRUARY 21-29, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

OLIVIA

Olivia here again. So another warning this week. My friend Tammi told me it’s called a content warning or trigger warning. Makes sense. Anyway. This time for homophobia, transphobia and verbal and emotional  abuse. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help.

 (INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 8.1

OLIVIA

My name is Olivia, and you are listening to the Y2K podcast. How are you today, listeners? I do know there are a few of you now, which is exciting! Thank you, and thank you especially to those writing in – I will do an episode at some point where I try and answer some of your questions. So tonight I’m recording at the uni radio station studio – a friend of mine convinced them to let me use it and it is so much better than recording under a blanket in my room! Thanks Tammi! And thank you BurnFM! Though it’s quite late as it was the only time it wasn’t in use, and it’s a little spooky here in the basement… Never mind. Let’s head into today’s voice mails – there are a few more than usual today, though they are shorter. Last week Jess talked Bri down from a ledge, and Kat got a Valentine’s surprise from Johnno. Once again – welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 8.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Oh Jess, just heard your latest, this is just a quick message before work – I am so so sorry your parents are being such absolute jerks. Give Bri a big hug from me – I know we’ve never met but I feel like I know her from all you’ve told me. And a big hug to you as well – don’t forget to take care of yourself in the middle of all this, OK? I’ll record a proper message soon – love you! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 8.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Thanks Kat! I love you! (beat) Everything is fairly stable now. Bri is here, the flight went well, and we’ve talked and talked and talked. Seems our parents never ever mentioned me to Bri, and when Bri said something – you know a general comment like “So I heard Jess is playing Gertrude in Hamlet this semester” they just ignored it. Actual example. I don’t get it. Must take so much energy for them. But I guess now they have no kids. I wonder what they’ll say to their friends. Anyways. Doesn’t matter. I’ll get back to you soon with more – love you!

(clicks)

Scene 8.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess! So glad things are stable. And I get that you and Bri have a LOT of talking to do. Five years of talking, right? But make sure you get sleep and food and that you get some time to yourself as well please? I know it’s not easy when Bri is having a crisis but you won’t be much help if you don’t take care of yourself too. OK? And I know this is so easy to say and so much harder to do, but just do it. For Bri if not for yourself, OK? OK! (pause) And don’t feel like you have to get back to me with a huge long message, or at all for a while. Of course I want updates, and I’m always here to listen, but I don’t want to add myself to your already mile-long to-do-list. (snort) Muddled metaphor, I know, but you know what I mean. All is ok here, so no worries. Okidoki? Love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 8.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat. I just talked to Mom. It was – She – (starts crying, but gets it under control) I wouldn’t have picked up, but I was asleep and confused. It’s 4 am here. She — she yelled at me. About Bri and – somehow it was all my fault. I couldn’t get a word in. So I just – sat here. And then she said this was God’s punishment on her for reaching out to me. (beat) And that she’d told her friends at church today that – that – that I was dead.(sobs quietly) There’s something wrong with her. I see that. But it hurts so much. I was going to hang up on her but she beat me to it. And now – Bri’s asleep, of course, and I don’t know if I should tell her about this. It’s hard, Bri is in such a fragile place yet she is so strong. And so open and trusting despite all the garbage our parents have done. Yeah. I’ll tell her. Enough secrets. But first I’ll try to sleep some more. Always a relief to talk to you my dear. Thank you for being there. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 8.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Good morning Kat! TGI Saturday – I slept late and feel better. Got my coffee and chocolate croissant… Yes a chocolate croissant is breakfast, Kat! More breakfasty than those stinky cheese sandwiches you eat! Anyways. (takes a bite) Just wanted to leave a message that’s a little more zen than the last, um, five or so? I will be ok, and Bri will be ok, we will make our own family, and it will be wonderful. So there. (sips coffee) If Bri gets  up in the next hour or so I’m gonna suggest we go do something – we’ve been holed up talking since she arrived – we really needed to – but now I think it’s time to get outdoors and grab some fresh air. Maybe a hike? Might be easier to tell Bri about Mom’s latest horror surrounded by trees… I’ve heard there are some great trails around here. I’ll ask Maia and Tia, they’re bound to know. (sips coffee) So what are you up to, Kat? I feel like my crises have overshadowed everything lately. Things good at work? Johnno and you still happily dating non-exclusively? Any new auditions coming up? You know when I’m a famous playwright I’m going to write you the most incredible part, right? And we will make a smash-hit West End show together! (smiles through tears) Yay! I love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 8.7

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Oh, Jess! So happy you are feeling a little better! And I hope you and Bri do end up going hiking – take lots of pictures, I’m sure it’s beautiful! I always find it easier to talk about difficult stuff while walking. Remember all those walks we took around Wood Green when we were freaking out about final production last year? Don’t know if I would have graduated without those. (takes sip of coffee) Would you believe I’m also having Saturday breakfast – though it’s about 13 hours later than yours (smiles). Time difference is strange! No stinky cheese today though, just had an egg sandwich (laughs). Which can be a little stinky too, I suppose… And coffee, always lots of coffee! (takes another sip) I’m at Johnno’s, he’s still asleep, so I’m borrowing his computer to send this. We’re doing really well – he actually asked me to be his girlfriend last night! (squeals) We’d been out with some friends of his – I was a little nervous but they were nice! Anyway just as we’d walked in the front door he grabbed me and pushed me up against the wall in the hallway and kissed me, and then he looked into my eyes and just (beat) asked. No-one’s ever asked me to be their girlfriend before. It felt tender and sexy and serious all at the same time. I said yes of course! (giggles) So we are now officially a couple and I couldn’t be happier. Lately I’ve been here almost every day – and night. So haven’t really seen much of (beat) Claire – or Shirin and Emma for that matter. Maybe I’ll stay at the flat tonight – have to do some laundry – I’m forever carrying underwear and t-shirts around and never get around to washing them. Anyway. Still haven’t –

(steps approaching)

JOHNNO

(sleepy, hugs KAT) Good morning sweetheart!

(JOHNNO nuzzles KAT’s neck, KAT squeals. They kiss.)

KAT

(happy) Good morning my love.

JOHNNO

(lets her go, steps away) Told you I don’t – I don’t want to use that word. (disdainful) Love. (mumbles) I’ve used it before.

KAT

(crushed) Oh. OK. Sorry. (pause)

JOHNNO

That’s all right, I forgive you sweetheart! (kisses her passionately) Is there coffee?

KAT

(flustered) No, sorry – Um, you’re not usually up this early. I can make–

JOHNNO

(interrupts) All right, you can’t fit everything into that sweet head of yours. You focus on being gorgeous, I’ll make coffee. (laughs) What were you up to anyway, reading all my e-mails?

KAT

No, of course not! I-

JOHNNO

(interrupts again) Joking! Can’t you take a joke sweetie? (laughs, kisses KAT again and leaves)

KAT

I- (sighs) Never mind. I was leaving a voicemail for Jess. (sighs again, sits down) Sorry Jess. I don’t know what I was talking about. Take care of yourself, and of Bri. I’ll call again soon.

JOHNNO

(yells from kitchen) I’m making pancakes – come have some!

KAT

(to JOHNNO) Coming! (to JESS) Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 8.8

OLIVIA

I- I- all right. That was a lot. Yeah. Heavy stuff. It’s funny, I get worried about what’s going to happen next, but it was twenty years ago – it’s already happened! And yet I know so little about it. Which is why if you know anything about Jess or Kat or their friends during this time I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all our episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K podcast, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show, also it just makes me happy (smiles). Our awe-inspiring music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. My name’s Olivia, (reads) thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 9: MARCH 1-5, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 9.1

OLIVIA

Hello everyone, welcome to the Y2K podcast! My name is Olivia, and I will be your tour guide as we time travel twenty years back in time. (laughs) All right, yeah, I am still working on that intro… I’m at the BurnFM studio again today, feeling a little less lost among all the tech in here. Thanks again, Tammi! So guess what I found yesterday? The website for the Free Online Voicemail service that Kat and Jess were using twenty years ago. It looked completely ridiculous – but I did some googling, and apparently websites in the nineties and early noughties all looked like that. I guess no-one ever bothered to take it down. Not sure if you could still record a voicemail on there, but their profiles were still searchable, which is a little creepy. I guess nothing really disappears once it’s been online. Like an old footprint – a fossil if you like. Two friends left fossils twenty years ago and now I’m digging them up, sorting them and sending them off in the world for all to… admire? Enjoy? Share? Something. All right, let’s get to it. Last week Jess’s mother reached new lows of horrible, and the ladies had breakfast in different time zones, and Johnno was odd about the word love again. Welcome to the year 2000!

 Scene 9.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess. (slight rustling of clothes) I’m folding laundry. I keep putting laundry off because it is just *so* BORING… Also I’m hardly ever home. But now I’m down to wearing my workout gear, so today is laundry day – yay! (smiles). I’m staying here tonight too, Johnno  has a work thing. We hardly ever stay here together, because – duh! – he has his own place with no sneaky flatmates. Speaking of flatmates, um, not sure if you want to know this but (beat) I think Rose broke up with Claire. I don’t know what it was about, but Claire seems to be in a really bad mood, and I haven’t seen Rose over here in a while. Talked to Emma about it in the kitchen this morning, and she thinks so too, but we’re both too chicken to ask… Anyway. That’s the laundry folded (puts laundry away in dresser) I have another load in the machine but that won’t be done for a while yet… Hang on. (opens window, light Sunday morning street noise, lights cigarette, blows out smoke, sighs) I tried to talk to Johnno about money last night. We’d been to dinner with his friends in Soho and had lovely Chinese food and when we got the bill Johnno just said “Let’s just split it in six parts!” like it was no big deal. I had ordered one dish and had one beer, because that was all I knew I had money for. The others – (inhales-exhales smoke) there were six of us, but you got that – had all had multiple dishes and many pints each. And when I told Johnno – in a low voice so the others wouldn’t hear – that I didn’t have money for that, and that I wanted to just pay for what I’d had, he says really loudly “Well, at least you’re gorgeous! Don’t worry, it’ll be my treat!”. I felt about five millimeters tall. I didn’t want to advertise my financial status to all his well-off friends with steady jobs and cars and apartments. It made me feel like a failure, this poor little out-of-work actor who gets by on bartending. So when we got home – to his place I mean – I brought it up. And he… Just doesn’t seem to get it. He says I can pay for ‘other things’ but the fact that he has money means we do much more expensive things, so even if he treats me a lot of the time – which is of course lovely of him – it doesn’t mean I can always pay for the other expensive things that I wouldn’t be doing if I wasn’t with him. You know? (inhales-exhales smoke) Last week I walked from his apartment in Chalk farm to work in Finsbury Park almost every day to save on bus fare. (puts out cigarette, closes window)   Turns out it’s nearly an hour’s walk each way so it took a lot of time.

(washing machine subtly starts spin cycle, increases during following)

KAT (continues)
Haven’t told him this. I feel… I feel ashamed to not have money. Which is ridiculous. Why is it shameful? I guess I didn’t feel quite as bad about it when we were students. Now I’m supposed to be an adult, a graduate who supports herself. Yeah. Not going so well. Anyway, Johnno and I argued. For the first time, really. He just wouldn’t see that I had a point, that my frustration was real. He kept trying to reassure me he would take care of me and I kept trying to tell him that wasn’t the poi nt. We were yelling. You know me. I don’t yell. It was freaky. We made up in the morning but- the issue is still there and I don’t know what-

(spin cycle at noisiest)

CLAIRE

(muffled yell) Who the fuck is doing laundry at this hour?

(KAT opens door)

KAT

Hey Claire. Sorry. Guilty. It’s almost do-

CLAIRE

(interrupts, furious) What the hell were you thinking? I was asleep!

KAT

(tries to remain calm) Well it’s almost noon, so-

CLAIRE

(interrupts) I was asleep!

KAT

(still trying to keep calm) I get that. Are- Are you OK?

CLAIRE

No! I’m not fucking OK! (storms off)

KAT

O–K. (mutters under breath) Jävla subba. (washing machine starts winding down, KAT closes door, sits down)(to JESS, near tears) Jess. That was really unpleasant. I hate getting yelled at. And there was no reason – there’s no rule about doing laundry in daytime. Well, you know all this. (small sob) Hate this! I start crying instead of getting angry. (exasperated) (sighs) I’d better go take care of that laundry now. Anyway, confirmed: Claire is *not* in a good place. Wow! (beat) So… (pulls herself together) let me know all about your hike, and how Bri is, and how you are, and everything else that’s going on. OK? Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 9.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat, so sorry you got yelled at, first by Johnno and then by Claire. She seems a little… unhinged. It’s weird, now that Bri’s here and everything I feel (beat) distanced from the pain of that break-up. Like the new pain of Bri and I basically being (beat) orphans ate up some of the old pain. (pause) Also, with Bri here I feel like I belong more, you know? Like she’s making this feel like home just by being here. It’s a little too early to say for sure, but Bri’s talking about possibly staying in Auckland, trying to get transferred to university here and finishing her degree. It won’t be until the spring semester though – which starts in August, very confusing! – so she’d have to get a job in the meantime. I hope she does stay! This past week has been so full of pain and misery yet it’s also been wonderful to connect with Bri again. We had the most incredible hike through unbelievable scenery, I took lots of pictures, I’ll have to get them double printed and send you some! And we talked and talked some more, and I told her about Mom, and it was awful but Bri said she’d rather know than not. So we’ve decided not to pick up Mom’s calls, either of us. Or Dad’s, but he’s not usually one for calling. (pause) I had my second therapy appointment today, with Antonio, which somehow seems a far too beautiful name for somebody as prosaic as a therapist. But I like him. He listens and thinks and lets me finish my rambling thoughts, and then he offers up a question or a comment that gets me thinking further. It’s still early days, but I think it’s helping… Let’s see. School is getting more fun – still breakneck-paced but we’re doing feedback sessions in groups which is very useful but also terrifying. One thing this degree is definitely teaching me is to not be so precious about my writing – I can’t double- and triple-check everything before letting anyone read it, I just have to get writing, and then pass it along for feedback. (very soft sound of front door opening in background) It’s taking some getting used to, but it seems to also unlock me creatively somehow, I don’t get in my own way as much, if you know what I mean. Yesterday I–

(slight footsteps, soft knock on door)

RACHEL

Jess? You there?

JESS

(gets up and opens door) Yeah. (smiles) Hi! Rachel!

RACHEL

(laughs) Hi. So Maia invited me over for dinner again – you want to help us make dumplings?

JESS

Um, sure! I’ll check if Bri wants to join in as well.

RACHEL

Cool, more the merrier, right?

JESS

(laughs)I just have to finish-

RACHEL

(interrupts with a smile) You voicemailing your friend again?

JESS

Yep. But I was just going to wrap it up, so-

RACHEL

OK. (smiles) See you in a bit then.

JESS

(closes door, smiles) Yeah. (to KAT) So, dumplings! Never made those before. You would know – is it hard? (laughs) You know I’m a little lost when it comes to cooking… Or a lot lost… Anyways, I’m sure it will be fun. Take care of yourself, my dear. Any exciting auditions lined up? Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 9.4

OLIVIA

So, seems things are looking a little better at Jess’s end. I’m a concerned for Kat though – all that yelling… Um, we will see what happens… Or what happened, really. Sort of feels like it’s happening now… Is it just me or do you feel that way too listeners? Either way, did you know Kat or Jess or their friends around the year 2000? I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, and   that’s the number two. Also check out our beautiful webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info about the show and, of course, listen to all our episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. Our jaw-dropping music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. The link is in the episode description. My name’s Olivia, (reads) thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 10: MARCH 6-12, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 10.1

OLIVIA

Good evening, (beat) here is the 9 o’clock news… (laughs) No! Just messing about. Couldn’t stop myself once I’d started with ‘good evening’ – why did I say that? (laughs, deep breath, tries to be serious) If you haven’t figured it out yet. I’m Olivia, being silly, and this is the Y2K podcast. (giggle) Tammi and I were winding each other up before we started recording and I guess I just can’t stop! Tammi’s agreed to stay in the studio with me today, so I don’t have to feel creeped out all alone in this basement. Say hi, Tammi!

TAMMI

(distant) Hello! (laugh)

OLIVIA

Hello! Of course Tammi’s only here to show you that I do have friends and am not a complete loner. All right? (laughs) Someone wrote in and said I seemed so lonely and I should find some nice ‘chums’. And someone else said I should get a boyfriend. (snorts) Not happening. But, yeah. I *have* nice ‘chums’ so don’t worry about me. But I like being alone too. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, pretty damned healthy if you ask me. Anyway. Last week Kat got yelled at, and Jess was going to make dumplings with (beat) Rachel. Let’s see what this week brings. (to TAMMI) Do you want to say it with me, Tammi?

TAMMI

(distant) OK!

BOTH

Welcome – to the year 2000!

Scene 10.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! Everything OK? Just haven’t heard from you in a little longer than usual… So… I had a great time the other night with Maia, and Bri, and Tia, and… Rachel. It felt so right to make food together and eat it. Um, yeah. That’s what you usually do with food. (laughs) I guess what I mean is that it felt normal and home-like and… comfortable. With everything that’s been happening I really need that, and I think Bri does too. I was a disaster at dumplings, though. It’s fiddly and you have to pleat them just so. Well, you probably know, oh you of incredible cooking skills! Does Johnno appreciate your cooking properly? He’d better – I *miss* it! Anyways, I just couldn’t get the pleats to stay pleated… Bri was a star, though, and Rachel was pretty good. Maia was a pro, of course, as was Tia when she got home from work. But then they make dumplings a lot. I ended up being in charge of making filling, I was pretty good at that. Mushrooms and kimchi and tofu – it was delicious! And we talked and laughed and I felt relaxed and (surprised) happy. It was beautiful. And… it was wonderful to see Rachel again. I’ll admit – to you but no-one else – that yes, of course I’m attracted to her. She’s fantastic. And so kind, and smart, and funny, and, well, gorgeous too. There’s a real spark, you know, and I get all babbling and silly ‘cause there’s no oxygen to my brain. It’s… been a long time since anyone made me feel like this. But… there is a but. I really can’t deal with anything romantic right now. I am very slowly getting to grips with everything after crisis on top of crisis and I’m not over Claire and I’m still overwhelmed with school and – and this is the most important reason – I want to focus on Bri. I want to make sure she is happy, well as happy as possible anyways, and that there is room for us to talk, and laugh and – cook! – and build our connection again. When that feels more stable, if Rachel’s still around and seems interested, then maybe we can try… something. (laughs) I don’t even know what people do anymore – and even less what they do in New Zeeland – I was in a relationship for almost three years that started off as a one-night-stand, hey, I have no clue! A date? Do people even go on dates?? Never mind. Not there yet, not sure I’ll ever get there. (sighs) I tried writing about my family. We had an assignment that was pretty unstructured, and was just ‘write what you know’ so I tried describing my parents, you know, as objectively as I could. They have good qualities as well as bad and I tried to bring them out but… it’s way too close. Just made me anxious. (sighs) Then I tried writing my coming-out-story – everyone has to write that at some point, right? And I never have. But of course my parents play a huge part in that as well. So in the end I wrote about… you. (nervous laugh) You don’t mind, do you? I wrote about meeting you and us becoming friends and flatmates and spending Christmas in Sweden with you and your Mom that year and how our friendship has always been about supporting each other. Nothing bad or incriminating, promise! I can send it to you if you like. Anyways. I need to start on my next assignment, where I have to make a phone book page somehow tell a story. Yep, same bananas professor. But it’s usually fun once I get into it. Have to finish that this afternoon, because – surprise! – Bri and I are going ballroom dancing! Yeah, shocked me too. But they have drop-in dance classes, and Bri was so excited when she saw it, that I just went with it. It’ll be a bonding sibling thing. Let me know what’s up at your end – you feel very far away today somehow. Sending oceans of hugs! Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 10.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(Muffled party noises)

KAT

(drunk) Jess! I miss you! Sorry for the radio silence! I’m at Johnno’s, he’s – *we’re* having a party, I guess. Shirin and Emma are here, and loads of Johnno’s friends. I’m not sure they like each other very much. I feel… all wrong. (on the verge of tears) I’m wearing this dress Johnno gave me and it’s really nice, but, you know, not very me. It’s black, which is fine, but it’s short and poufy and in a shiny fabric which feels weird. Also (pause) I suppose it shouldn’t be a big deal, but (beat) Johnno just told me that this dress that I’m *wearing* used to belong to his ex. I mean, I shop for second-hand clothes all the time, and we’ve been shopping together at the vintage stalls in Camden Lock, but (pause) I just assumed he’d bought me a vintage dress, not that he’d found his ex’s dress in his closet and decided to give it to me. It feels weird. Is it weird? Or am I just being oversensitive? Johnno always says I’m too sensitive, that it’s upsetting when I cry. He says tears feel manipulative to him. Maybe he’s right. (tries to hold back tears) Damn! I need a cigarette! I just- it’s just that I’ve-

(party noises getting progressively more argumentative in the other room during the following)

KAT

(continues) I feel like he’s dressing me up as his ex. And in front of his friends who might well have seen her in this dress. And I had no idea. And I… I’ve been jealous of her. He’s talked about her quite a bit and… I’ve never been properly jealous before. I thought I wasn’t the type. And, dammit, the dress- the fucking dress is tight on me, so whatever else she is, she’s also thinner than me! Fuck! Oh, Jess, sorry to offload all this on you. I’m drunk, and tired, and upset, and I’ve been trying to cut down on smoking which isn’t helping.

(background party noise, sound of two people yelling, one glass breaking, then four people yelling, running feet, front door opens and slams shut)

KAT

(continues) What the hell is going on out there? (gets up)

(door opens, party noises increase)

SHIRIN

(slightly drunk, very angry) There you are! Emma and I are leaving!

KAT

Wha- what’s going on?

SHIRIN

That guy in there – Simon I think – is being an arse, and your *boyfriend* is defending him.

KAT

Wha-

SHIRIN

You coming?

KAT

I should-

SHIRIN

(putting on coat) Emma’s already outside, I’m going now.

KAT

OK. I’ll just tell Johnno-

SHIRIN

Fine. We will wait for exactly five minutes.

(SHIRIN leaves, front door opens and closes)

KAT

(calls into living room) Johnno? (beat) Johnno?

JOHNNO
(drunk) How’s my princess? You look so hot tonight… (kisses KAT)

KAT

Look, I’m going home with Shirin and Emma.

JOHNNO

No! You can’t leave! (grabs KAT and kisses her again) I have a strict policy against you leaving. Let me get you a drink!

KAT

(smiles) Nice reference, sweetie. I- (tempted) No. I think I should just go. We’ll talk tomorrow, OK? Go have fun with your friends.

JOHNNO

(pouts) But I wanna have fun with my *girlfriend*. (grabs at KAT again, but she slides away)

KAT

(opens front door) See you tomorrow, sweetheart. (gives JOHNNO a peck, to SHIRIN outside) Be right there Shirin! (remembers) Oh! (rushes to the computer) Sorry, Jess!

(clicks)

Scene 10.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess… (sigh) Sorry about last night. I was drunk, and everything was messed up. Turns out I also had PMS, which could explain some of the crying… Haven’t talked to Johnno yet today, I guess he’s still asleep. But Shirin and Emma filled me in on the details on the bus home last night. Apparently this guy Simon, a colleague of Johnno’s that I hadn’t met before, was trying to chat Emma up all night, I guess I just didn’t notice. At first she thought it was OK, he seemed nice enough, but it became more and more intrusive as he had more to drink, and when she said no he didn’t accept it and grabbed her and tried to kiss her. Emma of course started yelling at him, and Shirin supported her, and a glass got smashed by mistake. At this point Johnno jumped in and – the way Emma and Shirin tell it – was angry with them for making a big deal out of nothing. Also for breaking the glass, which was some special blah-di-blah design thing. I… I have to get his side of course. But either way I hate that they didn’t get along. They’ve met before, of course, many times, but my friends had never met Johnno’s friends before and I was hoping it would go really well. Yeah. It didn’t. (sighs) I miss you. I hope ballroom dancing was wonderful. (laughs) I know it makes your skin crawl to watch it, but maybe it’s better when you’re actually doing it? I’ll leave a more coherent message another time, and let you know how everything goes. And respond to some of the other things you were telling me about… I love you.

(clicks)

Scene 10.5

OLIVIA

Hang on, Kat didn’t even seem hungover! That’s not fair, she was pretty drunk the night before! Hmpf!

(TAMMI says something unintelligible)

OLIVIA

(continues) True, seems she left sort of early-ish… All right, I feel better now. But that guy Simon, and Johnno standing up for him? That is just revolting. I can’t believe Kat is so… so calm about it. I mean, yeah, she has to hear his side of the story and everything, but the fact that her friend has been sexually assaulted by her boyfriend’s mate is a really big deal.

(TAMMI says something unintelligible)

OLIVIA

(continues) You have to come closer, Tammi, *I* can barely hear you. What was that?

TAMMI

I said, it was a different time.

OLIVIA

I suppose it was. Long before hashtag-metoo and everything that followed. But still. Something isn’t quite right here. We will see what happens. (beat) Tammi’s helped me do a pre-recorded outro-thing, with all the contact stuff, so I will play that now. Saves me from recording the same thing every episode. Talk to you next week! Bye for now!

TAMMI

Bye!

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 11: MARCH 13-19, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 11.1

OLIVIA

Hello there, this is Olivia and the Y2K podcast. I’m back at the student radio station again – Tammi’s convinced them to let me record here for at least the rest of the semester. And I’ve convinced Tammi to come back and do the podcast with me sometimes. It’s good to have company every now and then! (beat) We had a very exciting field trip today, lots of fresh air and sunshine. And rocks of course! So now I’m tired in that happy way, you know? (stretches) I’m going to record this and then write a paper and then curl up and sleep! (beat) So last week Jess admitted to being attracted to Rachel, but decided to do nothing about it, and Johnno gave Kat his ex’s dress and also defended his horrible friend. Quite a week. Let’s see what we find out today. Welcome – to the year 2000!

Scene 11.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess. Had to re-listen to your last message as I wasn’t very focused the first time around… (slight laugh) Of course I already knew you were attracted to Rachel. Wicked obvious. (laughs) But I get why you’re not acting on it. And I get that what you need is time with Bri to establish some kind of… normal again I guess. And of course you can write about me, and about our friendship! And I’d love to read it – but I’ll probably cry! (laughs, gets serious) Though I’m trying to stop this whole bursting into tears all the time-stuff. It’s pretty childish, really, to cry all the time. Also I’m trying to give up smoking, but it’s hard. Very hard. In fact- (opens window, weekday evening traffic noise, lights cigarette, inhales, blows out smoke) Aahhh… (contented sigh) Only third one today. I’ll get there. But (inhales-exhales) it’s just so *good*… (sighs again) Johnno was very unhappy that I left his party Saturday. And I was really upset at how his friend Simon treated Emma. Johnno says he didn’t see any of that, he just heard Shirin and Emma yelling at Simon and one of his fancy design glasses breaking. He says of course he defended his friend against two people yelling and throwing glasses around. And I get that. I would defend *you* against any attack no matter what you’d done. (slight laugh) But I would also ask you about it, and try to figure out what happened. And if I thought you’d done something wrong, I’d try to talk to you about it. (inhales-exhales) That’s the bit that Johnno’s… not doing. And not intending to do either. He says blokes don’t talk about that kind of stuff. And… OK, fine, that’s his experience, but- I know plenty of men that *do* talk about all sorts of things to each other. So yeah, some of them are gay, and some of them are Swedish, and some of them are gay and Swedish, but… but the point is it shouldn’t matter. (puts out cigarette, closes window) Brr! Cold! It’s supposed to be spring but today’s been freezing. Well not actually freezing, but cold like- never mind. You get the point. So… Johnno and I argued over the whole party thing. He was disappointed I left, and said he felt that I chose Emma and Shirin over him. And… I did. Because they’re my friends, and one of them had just been treated appallingly. But that hurts him because he feels rejected. (sigh) He wants us to be everything to each other, and that’s lovely. I told him we’ve only just gotten together, we can’t be everything to each other yet. I have a history with my friends, with my family – well my mother, anyway, of love and support and stuff we’ve shared that makes them – you! – my.. rock. Rocks? (beat) Foundation. He can’t be that for me after… a month! And I can’t be that for him! I think he got it but I’m not sure. It’s all jumbled in my head now. We made up of course. (sighs) But I don’t think I’ll get Shirin and Emma to join me at one of Johnno’s parties anytime soon. I-

(00s mobile phone ringtone)

KAT

It’s my mother, um, I’ll call her back.

(KAT silences ringtone)

KAT

She’s worried about me. About this whole no-proper-job-thing. And she’s got the wrong idea about Johnno. I called her when I was upset about something, and now she can’t see the big picture. I know, it’s her job to worry about me. (laughs) I just wish she’d let me vent a little without it becoming this huge thing, you know? Anyway. Let me know what’s up with you! Love you!

 (clicks)

Scene 11.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat. Wow. Lot’s happening at your end. So… (sighs) I’m kind of in your Mom’s corner here. (gently) I’m concerned about you with Johnno. Giving you his ex’s dress is… weird. Not telling you about it is even weirder. The money thing is also troubling… (sighs) He seems to be… I don’t know, trying to… control everything? Maybe he’s insecure and needs reassurance from you? Oh, I don’t know. Every relationship has its ups and downs, but it seems you two have had more downs lately… And for such a new relationship that’s… concerning. Also, if his friend is being an asshole, he needs to acknowledge that. There must have been more people in the room who can corroborate Emma’s story, right? So it’s *not* a “he said-she said” type of thing. (sighs) I really wish I was there. I wish we could have this conversation in person. I’m not trying to rain on your parade my dear, I know Johnno means so much to you. I want to make sure he is kind to you. All right? So… my news… (laughs) Ballroom dancing was actually surprisingly fun – I think Kiwis are generally a pretty relaxed bunch, and the dance people were so nice and welcoming, and it didn’t feel so… stiff, you know? Watching Come Dancing on TV it looks like they have rods up their butts, you know? And these people weren’t anything like that! Turns out there are like a gazillion styles of ballroom, we started with the rumba and as expected Bri was incredible and I barely got by. But we had fun, and – believe it or not! – we’re going again next week! Who knows, maybe when we meet next I will be a fully fledged ballroom dancer in sequins and ruffles and glitter, oh my! (laughs) Or… maybe not. Also, they offered Bri a part-time job manning their front desk a few nights a week, which is wonderful. Manning? Ugh! All these silly gendered words. Wo-manning? (beat) Next week is Bri’s birthday, so I’m going to try and organize a dinner for her, we don’t really know enough people for a party but that’s all right (laughs) And I got her this beautiful scarf that I’m sure she will love. Hey! I just realized we won’t spend *our* birthday together this year, that sucks! Maybe we can do a phone call or something… If we can deal with the cost. And the time difference. Let’s pencil it in “August 27, birthday phone call with Kat and Jess”. All right? And hey, I’ll be 26 and you’ll be 24, so together we’ll be 50! Yikes! If we were both in London we’d have a huge party, right? Or maybe not… (laughs) Anyways. Take care of yourself, my dear. You’re the only Kat I’ve got, you know. And you are definitely one of my very favourite rocks. (smiles) Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 11.4

OLIVIA

I agree. (hesitates) Johnno is doing some really odd things. Doesn’t seem like Kat is realizing quite *how* odd. It’s worrying – though of course it’s already happened. Yeah. It is funny they have the same birthday. I remember– (stops herself) Right. Also as a Geology student it’s funny to me how they seem to think rocks are universally hard and solid. Ever heard of sedimentary rocks? Like limestone? (laughs) I’m going to go write my Geology paper (yawns) and then sleeeeeeeeep. Hard – like an igneous rock! (laughs) Until next week brilliant listeners, good night…

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 12: MARCH 20-26, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 12.1

OLIVIA

(trying to sound cheerful) Hey there, I’m Olivia, and this is the Y2K podcast! (beat) I’m a little low today. Everyone is worried about the Corona virus, and while Birmingham hasn’t been hit that hard, it really feels like we are living in scary times. Also talked to my mum earlier and… Meant to tell her about the podcast, but there is so much else going on that I didn’t get that far. She asked if I was coming home for Easter and I’m like… Why? I didn’t last year. And it’s not like traveling is encouraged right now. Also we’ve never celebrated Easter except for eating lots of chocolate. (small laugh) We’re non-religious chocoholics! And I can eat chocolates here without getting on a plane. I’m planning on maybe a hike, and then holing up with a good novel – all I ever read these days is for uni – and then lots of those celebratory chocolates. And no interfering parents… Anyway. So last week Johnno wanted to be Kat’s rock, Kat ignored her mum’s phone call, and Jess expressed some doubts about Johnno. Let’s see what they’re up to today! Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 12.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat, listen, (carefully) I hope you’re not upset that I brought up some concerns about you and Johnno in my last message… I just want you to be happy. And if Johnno makes you happy that is wonderful. Right? And you can vent all you like with me and I won’t lose sight of the big picture. Promise. Pinky swear. (beat) Yesterday Rachel was here again and I swear I cannot think straight when she’s around. Whoosh! Despite this we manage to have the most incredible meandering conversations. Yeah. Anyways… I’m busy prepping for Bri’s birthday – probably overdoing it to a ridiculous degree because I want it to be the *best* *birthday* *ever*. (tense laugh) Yes I’m overcompensating, but I think I’m allowed. I want Bri to feel like she has a family and a home here. I’ve booked this private dining room at the pub on the corner and lots of pub food… It’ll be us, Maia and Tia and Rachel and a couple of other people they know, and some of the ballroom dancing people – we’ve only been twice and Bri doesn’t start working there until next week but they are so nice and so I invited them on impulse – Bri doesn’t know. I was thinking of inviting some people from university as well – but Bri hasn’t met them so I guess that would be weird. But yes, I do have some people from school who are – well maybe not friends but hopefully getting there. I talk mostly to Helena, who’s a little quiet but so funny and silly and writes the most achingly beautiful poetry, and to Gavin, who raced through undergrad so is younger than everyone else, and has this wonderfully sarcastic sense of fun and is probably the one person in our whole year who will succeed as an actual fiction writer. Anyways. Maybe I should invite them too so it doesn’t feel like a sad, tiny celebration? (exasperated sound) I just want it to be good! (breathes in-out) Right, breathing… Crap. (breathes slowly) I need to calm down about this. (breathes slowly) Seeing my therapist tomorrow, maybe he will help… (another deep breath) I bought cute decorations today. Happy 21st! Balloons and stuff. You know. (smiles) Oh, remember your 21st? Also my 23rd… We didn’t want to deal with people so we had a flatmate get-together, you, me, Shirin and… Lee! Yeah. That was fun. And this will be fun too. (deep breath) Take care my dear. I love you!

(clicks)

Scene 12.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess, OK, sounds like you are getting a little too stressed out by this party planning. I am sure Bri will love it, and you don’t need to invite more people or make it huge – sounds like you have all the ingredients needed for a great night – food, friends and silly decorations (laughs). So try to chill a little on this one, OK? Also…(beat) It’s OK. It *was* hard to hear you say you were concerned about me and Johnno. (sighs) But I can’t blame you really – I think I only give you one side of the story. Johnno and I have our issues like everyone else, but there are so many good things going on too. (smiles) Like yesterday I found out I got this TV ad for – you won’t believe this – for IKEA! – and he was so happy for me and bought me the biggest bouquet of flowers I’ve ever seen! I’m looking at it right now and it takes up half of my room! (happy sigh) It feels a little silly somehow to be in an advert for a Swedish brand, but that’s why I got it. So not complaining! And, you know, we have so much fun together. He makes me laugh, and think, and feel special, and brings me to all these amazing events and shows and everything. It’s like he’s showing me a whole new London that I never knew before, it’s amazing! (giggle, grows more serious) Also, we talked some stuff out last week and, well, cleared the air I guess. Wait, talk out? Clear up? Have out? Ah, you know what I mean! I think he’s grasping the money issue better from my perspective, and he agrees that his friend Simon behaved badly towards Emma, though he only relented on that point when his other friend told him what they’d seen… On the other hand, I can’t blame him for being loyal to his friends, I am too, and I really value that. (pause) So, back to my TV ad! (delighted squeal) I’ll be a woman who is incredibly good at assembling Billy bookshelves, and who just churns them out and builds a whole library while her husband does the dishes. Yes, typecasting! As you know I *am* incredibly good at assembl ing IKEA furniture, though I didn’t get a chance to show that in the audition (laughs). We’ll be filming it in a studio in Hampstead in a few weeks, and I can’t wait!

(muffled voices in distant background)

Also – it pays real money which is such a relief. Won’t help in the long run but is very nice right no-

(JOHNNO opens door)

JOHNNO

Hello sweetheart! (kisses KAT)

KAT

(surprised but pleased) Johnno! I thought you were still at work!

JOHNNO

I left early to see you sweetie. I booked a table at Pied à Terre tonight to celebrate your TV ad.

KAT

Wow! OK. That’s- (beat) That’s lovely, but I have plans with the flatmates tonight.

JOHNNO

(annoyed) Really?

KAT

Yeah, it’s quiz night at the pub round the corner and we used to go all the time, but I haven’t been in ages, so we decided to go tonight. (beat) I guess I forgot to tell you, sorry about that.

JOHNNO

But I made reservations. And… I’m sure we talked about doing something tonight.

KAT

Did we? I don’t remember that.

JOHNNO

We did, yesterday.

KAT

Oh, OK. (beat) I’m sorry. I must have gotten mixed up. (beat) All right, I’ll cancel the quiz night.

JOHNNO

(smiles) Good. (kisses KAT)

KAT

Right. (pause) So when’s the reservation? And… what on earth should I wear? (starts rummaging in closet)

JOHNNO

Anything you like, sweetie. A sexy dress maybe?

KAT

(distracted) Yeah. (sniffs her armpit) Hm. Do I have time for a shower?

JOHNNO

(looks at watch) Not really, we need to leave in about twenty minutes.

KAT

OK. (looks in dresser, in closet again) Maybe this one…

JOHHNO

Or maybe the one you wore at the party?

KAT

No! I can’t wear that. It’s- (beat) It hasn’t been washed. (deep breath) This one’ll have to do.

(discards jeans and t-shirt, puts on dress, sound of zipper struggle)

JOHNNO

Let me help you with that. (zipper) Wow. You look gorgeous in everything sweetheart. (kisses KAT)

KAT

(smiles) Thank you dar- sweetie. OK. (looks around room) Hang on! I think I’m still recording for Jess! (laughs, to computer) Sorry Jess! I think I was pretty much done. Have a great week, talk to you soon! (beat) Oceans of hugs!

JOHNNO

(questioning) Oceans?

(clicks)

Scene 12.4

OLIVIA

(laughs, mimics) “Oceans?” (laughs again) Sorry. That sounded funny. An IKEA ad, that’s not bad! I wonder if I could find it on Youtube… Probably not, too old! Also I want tell Jess to relax a little… In a way it’s like they are characters to me at this point. Even though I know they were actual people and of course still are actual people now, twenty years later, this world of theirs, at this time… it’s all *very* different from the people I know today. We’re more the same age, and they seem much easier to relate to. I suppose… I always thought of my parents as… not old… but static. Like I’m the kid so I am doing all the growing and changing and they are done with all that. But lately they… are changing things, and changing (hesitates) as people and doing things they never used to do and… well, it freaks me out. They’re supposed to be stable, dammit! (sigh) I know that’s not fair. Or reasonable. (small laugh) But maybe listening to all these voice mails and hearing my mum as a younger, less sure and… unformed version of herself is helping me understand her a little better now as well. That’s the idea, anyway. (beat) All right, enough rambling for today. Take care of yourselves, listeners. Stay safe and healthy in this scary world. Talk to you next week. Here comes the outro. Bye!

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 13: MARCH 27-31, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 13.1

OLIVIA

Hello everyone, Olivia here, with the Y2K podcast. Spring is here at last – today has been a glorious sunny day and it is *finally* starting to smell properly like spring! I’ve been out running and feel all energized and happy. Though we were supposed to have a field trip today and of course that didn’t happen as all my courses have moved online now… (sighs) So… I’ve got some listener e-mails, thank you so much. One person who wanted to be anonymous asked about- well they basically asked what I was thinking putting these voice mails out into the world like this. If I’d thought about what I am doing releasing these very personal stories into the world. And… I think that is absolutely valid. I am not really being fair on my mum and her friend doing this. Not to mention all the other people involved. (beat) Not that I knew there would be anyone but Kat and Jess on those tapes! That was definitely a surprise. Another surprise was how emotional and personal and dramatic and… raw things are on the voice mails. I suppose I thought they would be more like regular voice mails, you know? More like short check-ins and mundane descriptions of everyday life. (sighs) When I started I was- (voice wavers slightly) I was angry at my parents. Disappointed. And upset. And there was so much about this time that I didn’t know. I thought I would play some chit-chatty messages and hopefully get a few people to listen and maybe find someone who knew more about what was going on with my parents in 2000, who could answer some of the questions I have that I don’t know how to ask my parents. I definitely didn’t expect… all this. And now I don’t feel like I can stop. I’ve got some leads and I feel like this podcast and you, wonderful listeners, could lead me to some of the answers I want. So I’ll go on. But yes, I will tell my mum and her friend. I just have to find a good time to do it. (beat) Right… last week Jess went overboard party planning for Bri, and Kat got a surprise fancy dinner. Welcome to the year 2000!

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(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Oh Kat, last night was.. bad. Fuck. (beat) Bri got visibly stressed out by the random group  of people, and it was such a weird dynamic of cliques who didn’t know each other, also it turns out the ballroom dancing people don’t drink, which is fine in every way except it made Bri feel that she shouldn’t drink either, and that made me feel like I shouldn’t drink, and the two people in that room who would have actually benefited most from a beer or two to de-stress didn’t have any, which made it worse. I wanted it to be fun and relaxed and for Bri to feel appreciated, but I ended up getting completely worked up about every little detail and (beat) I- I yelled at the bar staff. About the beermats being the wrong color. I know, it sounds ridiculous. (small sad laugh) Like a bridezilla! Crap. (sighs) You were right, as always, when you said to tone it down a little. But I was so caught up in everything that I couldn’t stop. I knew deep down that I was overdoing everything but it just… snowballed. (sighs) I guess it turned more or less all right  after a while, though. Maia got Bri talking about horror movies, and that of course led to The Blair Witch Project and Bri has lots to say on that. Turns out Gavin also loves horror, so he could join in. Rachel, being wonderful as always, distracted me with, well herself, but also food and sympathy. And everyone else got over being incredibly awkward and settled on being only medium awkward with each other… I think the food was all right, though I hardly tasted any of it. People left semi-early, but who could blame them? Ugh. I tried to talk to Bri after the party, to explain, but she avoided me and went straight to bed. And I get it. (sighs) At least I have no physical hangover today, just an emotional one. Oh Kat, I’m a wreck. I spend so much energy on getting everything done in school and trying to take care of Bri that I- I- (verge of tears) There’s nothing left. I feel empty. And so very tired. Like I could sleep for a week. But then when I do try to sleep I can’t relax. I just lay there and all the thoughts and doubts I haven’t made time for during the day pop up and demand attention. And it’s like every single thing is of equal – and enormous – significance. Like the fact that I said a slightly weird thing about bunnies to Helena last night looms just as large as the fact that I gave Bri a crap birthday party. Along with thirty other things. It’s so noisy in here, I don’t know how to deal with it. (cries) Kat, I-

(gentle knock on door)

JESS

(wipes tears) Yes?

BRI

Can I come in?

JESS

Bri! Yes! Of course!

(BRI opens door)

BRI

(smiles) Hi sib.

JESS

Hi. (swallows tears) I’m so sorry about last night, Bri.

BRI

(opens arms) Come here.

(They hug. Jess sobs a little.)

BRI

(continues) It wasn’t that bad.

JESS

(pulls BRI with her to sit) Really?

BRI

Well…

JESS

(tentative smile) I yelled at the bar staff.

BRI

(smiles) Yeah, you did.

JESS

I was… pretty stressed.

BRI

I know.

JESS

Everyone tried to tell me to not make too big a thing out of this party, that I was overcompensating, and I knew they were right, I just couldn’t stop myself.

BRI

(smiles) Gavin’s cool. He’s got the entire Nightmare on Elm Street movie collection on VHS.

JESS

(smiles) I didn’t know that.

BRI

See? I wouldn’t have known that if you hadn’t invited him.

JESS

Right. (laughs) Friends again?

BRI

Always. (stands up) Brunch?

JESS

Yes. (remembers) I just have to finish up this message for Kat.

BRI

Hm. Cool. (to door)

JESS

(smiles) Love you Bri.

BRI

Love you sib.

(BRI leaves, closes door)

JESS

Oh Kat. So that was Bri. And she’s not mad at me. (relieved sigh) Feel better now. But… still tired. Yeah. Have to figure out how to deal with that. My therapist suggested anti-depressants last time. He said they can even out the highs and the lows. And I’m sure they can, but it feels weird, you know? If I start altering my body chemistry who knows what will happen? Like when that doctor put me on birth control pills to “regulate my period” and all they did was make my period pain worse and my sex drive plummet to zero. I don’t usually respond well to medication that does anything more than relieve pain…

(knock on door)

MAIA

(muffled) Brunch is almost ready!

JESS

(opens door) Thanks Maia. (beat) Oh, that smells wonderful!

MAIA

(smiles) Bri is making French toast.

JESS

Oh wow. (verge of tears)

MAIA

You all right?

JESS

Yes. (beat) Very all right. Thanks. (smiles)

MAIA

(smiles) Right. See you in the kitchen.

JESS

(closes door, sits down at desk) Kat. I should finish up so I don’t get interrupted again. (smiles) And so I can go have brunch. Dad used to make French toast sometimes on Sundays when we were kids. It was a special treat. And it feels right that Bri’s making it now. (beat) Let me know what’s up with you. Kat. Did you have a good time at the fancy restaurant? Also, don’t forget to book another quiz night with the flatmates, you need to keep up the tradition, especially now I’m not there to remind you. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 13.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Jess! It was great to finally hear Bri’s voice! Next time you have to make her say hi, OK? And I’m sure the party wasn’t quite as bad as you thought it was. Even if it was, people won’t mind too much. It’s huge for you, and made huger by the fact that you are depressed and not sleeping, but for most people a so-so party is just something that happens that they don’t think twice about. OK? (beat) Notice how I slipped in the word depression? Because I think that’s probably what’s going on. Don’t you? And… I know about depression, remember? My mother’s been on anti-depressants more or less her whole life. So if your therapist says you should consider medication, you should consider medication. And they’re not the same type of medication as birth control pills, so I’m not buying that excuse. Also there are lots of different types, and your doctor can help you find the right one for you. (beat) Lecture over. (smiles) I just don’t want you to dismiss something that has a very good chance of making you feel better. Okidoki? (laughs) OK, so now that I’ve lectured you we can move onto my amazing news – Johnno and I are moving in together! Well, technically I’m moving in with him, but who cares about technically? I am very excited – I’ve never lived with a boyfriend before. Well, you know that. (laughs) We got talking about it, and I’m over there practically all the time anyway, and he suggested I simply… not leave. He’s very generously offered to let me pay the same rent I’m paying now, even though his flat is of course *much* more expensive. Our flat soon! I’m so happy! This whole lugging stuff around in my handbag is getting really old – plus I never have what I need when I need it, it’s always at the other place. So I talked to Shirin today, and handed in my four-week-notice, but I’m moving tomorrow! I have to pack all my stuff – and figure out where it all goes at Johnno’s place – *our* place! Have to get used to saying that. (laughs) I’m so excited! (hums I’m so excited) He needs to give up some closet space – and some bookshelves! And there is no bathroom cabinet so not sure what to do (beyond excited) We have to go to IKEA! We can be one of those couples that go to IKEA! Though we won’t argue like those couples, we’ll just buy great cheap stuff and have meatballs for lunch! It’ll be like introducing Johnno to a piece of Swedish culture! Well, I’m sure he’s been to IKEA, but not with an actual Swedish person! And I can buy salty liquorice!! Yay!! He probably hasn’t had it before – remember when you tried it? You were very brave, but I know it’s definitely not your thing… (laughs) OK, I have to go start packing! I hope you can *breathe* a little, you know? Seems like it’s been one thing after another for you. Take some you-time, OK? And remember: you are amazing and can do anything. Just breathe. (breathes) Love you!

 (clicks)

Scene 13.4

OLIVIA

(laughs) I actually like salty liquorice! Probably one of very few people at this uni who does! (beat) I’m glad Jess ended up being open to anti-depressants. Her attitude seems very foreign to me. But I guess times have changed. Also my parents have always been such advocates of medication for various ailments, including depression, and vaccines, and… Yeah. Sometimes it’s good that times change, right? (beat) So you’ve heard me talk about our Patreon in the outros – it’s where you can support the show through monthly donations, and we try to come up with fun things to share with you to say thank you. We’ve recorded the first Patreon-exclusive episode, Tammi and me. (slight laugh) I have no control over it really – Tammi runs the whole thing which is perfect. All I have to do is just show up and talk! We had a lot of fun, and our wonderful Patreon supporters can hear the first Tammi’s Takeover in about a week! Excited to hear what you think! That’s all for today – stay safe out there – here’s the outro.

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 14: APRIL 1-9, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 14.1

OLIVIA

Happy Easter, to those who celebrate! And happy April to everyone! This is Olivia and the Y2K podcast, and I am heading towards some glorious days off from uni where I will enjoy fresh air and read some novels. I got the latest Holly Black in January but haven’t read it yet, so that’s top of my list. And hopefully a hike or two. I can’t wait! (beat) Onto the voice mails. Last week Jess calmed down a little and Kat decided to move in with (slight hesitation) Johnno. Anyway. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 14.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! Wow. Moving in with Johnno. Congratulations! I guess you’re already moved in by now, that’s… quick. But, yeah, great. (sighs) I’m sorry. Don’t mean to sound so… fake. (warmly) I’m happy that you are so happy. (smiles) And I hope you had fun at IKEA – scoping out the place before shooting the big commercial, huh? Anyways. I’m a little worried you’re moving so fast – Ha! Moving! I’m hil-ar-i-ous! – but I’m happy as long as you’re happy. And I’m glad you are getting some new stuff, you have to make it yours, you know? Not only when it comes to getting space in the closet and the bathroom cabinet, make it yours with some Kat-ness, some pillows, and books, and flowers, and silly posters, all those little details that claim a space and make it yours. (beat) Rachel was here again today, she helped Maia carry stacks and stacks of damaged books from the library – their basement got flooded so they had to discard loads. It’s sad when books get destroyed, but I love that Maia is making them into art. Anyways, what I wanted to get to is that Rachel still makes me all dizzy and flushed. It’s not going away, if anything it is stronger. I… I might have to do something about that. (sigh) Also I’m slowly calming down after the birthday party mess. Bri is so great. Once I stop stressing about everything I see that she doesn’t actually need me to tie myself in knots wanting to magically make everything perfect for her. She’s all right just being here, and talking, and finding small ways to heal. And it’s such a relief. (breathes) Why do I do this? (small laugh) Why do I always feel like I have to fix everything? (sighs) Sometimes I’m exhausted with myself, you know? (beat) All right. I will be open to medication. It’s just- Yeah. (smiles) Going to stop making excuses. At least for now. I’m going to   make myself a cup of Earl Green and get going on the reading for tomorrow. Let me know how everything is – I hope you are in newly cohabitating bliss (smiles). Hey, wasn’t there some cool Swedish word for cohabiting? Simba or something? (laughs) Yeah so even I can tell that’s wrong! But hope you’re a happy simba anyway! (smiles) I love you!

(clicks)

Scene 14.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

SHIRIN

(a little uncertain) Hi Kat, it’s Shirin. You’re not answering your phone, or my texts, so I guess I’ll give this odd voicemail thing a go. I just wanted to (beat) see if everything’s all right. You moved out so quickly and I hardly had time to talk to you. So… I hope Johnno… I hope Johnno’s being nice. All right? That’s all. And we’re off to quiz night next week, join us! Oh, and your Mum called the flat – I suppose she didn’t know you moved? I told her. I hope that was all right. (starts saying something but stops herself) Right. Bye!

(clicks)

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(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess. Thanks for the well-wishing. Not quite in bliss but a happy *simba* all the same (smiles). Always fancied myself a lion, or even better a lion king! (hums “Can You Feel the Love Tonight”) It’s ´sambo´ actually, so you weren’t too far off (small laugh). Literally means ‘co-live’… I went to IKEA on my own in the end. Johnno had to work. Which is fine. I got some closet organizers and a lamp shade and some plants and, you know, some random stuff like a whisk and some oven mitts. Then I hauled it all back on the bus which took forever, but I was pretty happy when I got back. And I got some salty licorice of course. Licorice…  Johnno bravely tried it but spit it out even faster than you did! It was pretty funny. So I’ve been decorating a little, and got all my clothes up. Most of my books are still in a box, there’s not really any room for them yet. Will have to drag Johnno to IKEA so we can buy and haul home a bookshelf! But I do have a pile of books on my side of the bed, which is nice. (beat) And yes, keep an open mind about medication. When’s your next therapy   appointment? I’m off to work in a minute, promise to leave a longer message next time. Love you!

(clicks)

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(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

CLAIRE

(energetic, nervous but hides it) Hey Jess-ica, surprise! It’s me. Claire, in case you’ve forgotten my voice. Yeah, Kat showed me how this thing works a few weeks ago and I figured it’s a nice cheap way to get a message through. Straight to the point: Kat’s being really strange. She moved in with that creepo boyfriend of hers last week and honestly it’s not making much of a difference here since she was hardly ever around, but she just grabbed her stuff and left when we were all out. And her room is still a mess of discarded shit. Also Kat’s mum called yesterday and didn’t even know she’d moved. We think something’s off. We had a kitchen palaver about it and I was nominated to message you. Tried to tell them you’d probably prefer to hear from anyone but me, but they insisted. So here I am, reporting for duty. (fake US accent) Ma’m yes ma’m (more serious) Kat’s not been herself for weeks. It’s like she’s (beat) acting some happy version of herself but can’t quite keep it up. Not sure what you can do from the land of the Kiwis but you could always get through to her when no-one else could, so, give it a go, right? (pause) And I guess you heard about Rose. Yeah. I bet on the wrong horse. (fake Italian accent) The shit-eh does the-happen. (unhappy laugh) Bye then.

(clicks)

Scene 14.6

OLIVIA

Claire. Right. I don’t get it. Why would the flatmates think Claire would be the best person to message Jess? Why not Shirin or Emma? That makes no sense. You don’t make recent exes interact unless you know they get on really well. And these two definitely don’t. But-

(OLIVIA’s mobile rings, it’s on silent so only makes those static disturbance noises.)

OLIVIA

(continues) Sorry! Forgot to turn my mobile off. It’s my mum, better get that. I think I was pretty much done anyway, dear listeners. I’ll say bye for now, and pop on the outro, hang on… (beeps and clicks, the outro does not start) Hey mum… I’m fine, actually I just finished-… All right…. You… what?… She’s-… What do you mean you’re-… (very upset)  I…  I didn’t know. I thought it was temporary. Why didn’t you tell me? I thought I… Bloody hell. (angry) Did you two think I wasn’t interested? That I didn’t care what’s going on in my own family? (almost crying) Well, you thought wrong…. Yeah… (the other person is upset, OLIVIA calms) Mum, I-… Of course… Yeah… No, I’m (beat) all right… Do you want me to come for Easter after all?… You’re sure?… I could check if there are any cheapo student rates left?… Right… I’ll stay here… (deep breath) Talk to you later?… Love you too, mum. (hangs up, beep) (pause, mutters) Didn’t it start? (some clicks) Why didn’t it start…There… (deep sigh, cut short by click and outro starting)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 15: APRIL 10-16, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 15.1

OLIVIA

Hello brilliant listeners, I’m Olivia, and this is the Y2K podcast. Today Tammis’ here with me, say hello!

TAMMI

Hiya!

OLIVIA

What have you been up to today, Tammi?

TAMMI

Starting off our Palaeontology module – I’m excited!

OLIVIA

(smiles) Me too.

TAMMI

I think for most of us this is why we chose the course – we’re all just dinosaur-loving kids, really (laughs)

OLIVIA

(laughs) Yes we are – though, you know. We’re all science geeks too.

TAMMI

Yup.

OLIVIA

“We’re all mad here” (BOTH laugh) Anyway. I am starting something new this week, and showcasing trailers for other podcasts that I think you will enjoy. Please listen to the very end of the episode to hear the first one!

TAMMI

Very cool.

OLIVIA

Let’s go to today’s voice mails. Last week, Jess was still interested in Rachel and Kat made Johnno try salty liquorice. You want to say it with me Tammi?

TAMMI

Sure.

BOTH

Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 15.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat. Is everything all right? I got the weirdest message from Claire, of all people. She said the others had nominated her to call me – why *would* they do that? Hearing her voice was unsettling in itself, but the message was about (beat) you. She’s wo-, no they’re all worried about you, Shirin, Emma and Claire. Kat, what’s going on? I’ve been concerned about you and Johnno, and it seems you are moving things along pretty fast, but so far you’ve managed to convince me that everything is fine. And I guess I’ve wanted to believe you, but maybe I should have dug deeper. Please get back to me asap. This is freaking me out. I love you! I miss you. And I just want you to be happy, if possible. Sending oceans and oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 15.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Oh, Jess (almost in tears) I’m sorry Claire got you so worried. I am OK. Really. Shirin left a message for me too, but I suppose I didn’t take it seriously. And I didn’t know Claire was leaving one for you. Are you OK about that? Must have been strange hearing her voice. I think they probably decided to divvy up the tasks so that Shirin called me and Claire called you. They probably felt Emma wouldn’t be able to stick to the script… Actually they were probably right! So. Yeah. I’ve not been so communicative with the flatmates. Former flatmates I should say. I just don’t really have the energy for them, you know? Plus I’ve been sort of avoiding Claire. Not only on your account, though of course there’s that. But also for me, you know. I used to be pretty good friends with Claire when you were together, and it was strange to lose that all of a sudden. And then when she’d treated you so very badly she became the villain, of course, and then she moved in and became the flatmate and- it was all far too confusing. And then after that thing with Emma and Shirin at Johnno’s party I sort of felt like I had to choose who to support, and of course I chose my boyfriend. What else could I do? And it became very hard to hang out with them and I retreated a little. I-

(front door being unlocked and opened)

JOHNNO

Kat? You home?

KAT

(to Johnno) In here!

JOHNNO

(comes in and kisses Kat) Hello princess! Had a good day?

KAT

Mm, I-

JOHNNO

(interrupts, enthusiastic) So we’re having dinner with Simon and his wife tomorrow – you’re not working are you?

KAT

No- Wait, yes I am. But I can probably swap with someone. (realizes) Si-

JOHNNO

(interrupts) Great! So I-

KAT

(interrupts) Wait, Simon’s *wife*?

JOHNNO

(annoyed) Yes. You interrupted me. What was I- oh yeah, I have-

KAT

(interrupts) Your colleague Simon? The one who assaulted Emma?

JOHNNO

(really annoyed) Don’t say that, he was just drunk. And I am trying to tell you –

KAT

(interrupts) He’s married? And we’re – I don’t want to have dinner with him!

JOHNNO

(furious) What the hell? He’s my friend!

KAT

(so angry she’s crying) He’s- he’s awful! What he did-

JOHNNO

(furious) Your friends aren’t as perfect as you think!

KAT

What- That-

JOHNNO

(lashing out) Shirin cheated on Dave. And Emma will fuck anything on legs, so should be pretty impossible to assault her.

KAT

You- That’s- What the f-

JOHNNO

(yells) Will you listen to me?

KAT

(angry) What?

JOHNNO

(calmer, petulant) I booked us train tickets to Paris for Easter. But you won’t even let me tell you about it, so I suppose I should just throw them away. Is that what you want?

KAT

That’s great. But-

JOHNNO

(icy cold anger) Look. I’ll rip them up and throw them in the garbage.

KAT

You don’t have to do that. (shakes head as if to clear it) We were talking about Simon and (beat) what you said about Emma, that’s just not true-

JOHNNO

(interrupts) She’s slept with practically everyone I know, man,  woman, both or neither, so I _

KAT

(interrupts) She hasn’t, actually. And if she had it wouldn’t matter. That’s not the point, she-

JOHNNO

(angry, exasperated) So what is your fucking point, Kat?

KAT

That Simon is a creep, and he’s married which makes him even worse. (voice wavers) I don’t want to have dinner with-

JOHNNO

(interrupts, petulant) I just wanted to surprise you. But it’s all ruined now. I’m going out.

KAT

Johnno! We have to talk about this.

JOHNNO

(putting on shoes and jacket, like the words taste bad) No. We really don’t.

(Door closes)

KAT

(softly) What the hell is happening? (cries, walks to another room)

(new kind of softer click)

Scene 15.4

OLIVIA

Hello, Olivia here, in editing mode. I (beat) cut out about half an hour of Kat sobbing and moving around the apartment. It was… pretty grim. Figured I’d spare you that. Um, nothing else, apart from a click at the end. Didn’t sound like Kat turned it off, I think it probably lost internet connection and turned off on its own. Right, that’s all from me for now. Here’s the next voice mail.

Scene 15.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Oh shit. Hi Jess. I just realized I didn’t turn this off but it seems to have sent you the voice mail anyway. Who knows what’s on there. Just as I was trying to reassure you, too. (sighs) I don’t know what to say. I’m so tired. Johnno’s still out, it’s been over two hours. I have to go to work soon.

(KAT’s mobile rings, 00s ringtone)

KAT

(continues) Oh! (disappointed) It’s my mother. I cannot deal with her right now. (turns off mobile) Right. Have to go. (shaky) No worries, all right? I’ll be fine. We’ll make up. It’s what we do. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 15.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Oh Kat. That didn’t exactly make me less worried. Also, hearing someone’s fight is… horrible. Sometimes when Claire and I argued I felt like she wasn’t really fighting fair, you know? Like she kept throwing me off balance with new accusations and didn’t let me have my say. I feel like that’s what was happening with you and Johnno. You know what I mean? I don’t really have any advice for how to deal with that, except, maybe, talk to him about it? Not that I ever had the guts to bring it up with Claire… I don’t think she was aware she was doing it, I think it was some sort of defense mechanism. And I definitely didn’t see it as clearly then as I do now, and especially after listening to the fight you just had. I a m so sorry you are hurting, my dear. And I hope you can sort this out. You say you always do, which is good, but it also implies you fight like this a lot. Do you? Remember back in March you were describing the first fight you and Johnno had, and you were worried because you’d been yelling and screaming and it wasn’t like you? Don’t forget that. Don’t let this become normal for you if you feel it isn’t you. (small laugh) Right, that’s pretty convoluted, sorry. I mean be careful you don’t get lost in all this. One of the things I took away from the whole débacle with Claire is how important it is to be kind. It’s so underrated but it is crucial. She wasn’t kind to me at a basic level. And I wasn’t very kind to her either, especially towards the end. I guess that bit just failed in our relationship dynamic. Sorry, didn’t mean to make this about me… Ugh. Hate that I’m so far away! I want to give you a big hug and drag you out for a long walk and talk and talk and talk until we feel like we have sorted everything out and understand it together. So I’m going to beam over to London RIGHT NOW so we can do that. Right? Right. Scotty? (beat) Damn. I guess my transporter beam is broken. (smiles) We’ll have to make do with voice mails a little while longer. (sighs) So I had another therapy session today. And you’d be proud of me. I was open to talking about medication and he referred me to a doctor. He said medication might help not only with depression but also with getting me to sleep better, which was the clincher for me – I’ve been having trouble sleeping and it makes everything worse. So, if it all works out, I should be seeing a doctor and start medication next week. Can’t get any worse, right? (laughs) …she says, right before another burning building falls on top of her… Yeah, I know it can get worse. But it could also get better. So here’s hoping! Listen, take care of yourself, and pay attention to how Johnno makes you feel. Right? I love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 15.7

OLIVIA

We’re back. All this relationship drama!

TAMMI

Yes, they’re not having an easy time of it.

OLIVIA

I really don’t understand why they put up with it.

TAMMI

Well.. Passion? Connection? Sex? Support?

OLIVIA

Yeah. Well I wouldn’t want it for myself, so maybe that’s why.

TAMMI

None of it?

OLIVIA

Not really. Oh, maybe the connection and support of a relationship would be good at some point. But I’d have to find a partner who was fine with me being ace.

TAMMI

OK, that makes sense. I’m not really after, you know, a relationship either at this point – too much other stuff I wanna do.

OLIVIA

(smiles) Absolutely. (beat) Now, there was something I was going to talk about…

TAMMI

Merch!

OLIVIA

Yes! Thanks! I wanted to tell our listeners that we have t-shirts and mugs and hoodies and lots of other stuff with the Y2K logo and quite a few other designs as well – for example one design with ‘Welcome to the year 2000’ and another one with ‘Oceans of hugs’. You can find them at y2kpod.com/merch

TAMMI

(smiles) There are also pillows and beach towels, for some reason.

OLIVIA

(laughs) Well, they were there, so I though why not.

TAMMI

It’s great! Just funny.

OLIVIA

(smiles) Yeah. Think we’re done.

TAMMI

Yeah, bye!

OLIVIA

Bye!

OLIVIA

Please listen to this trailer – enjoy!

(Trailer for SEREN)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 16: APRIL 17-23, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 16.1

OLIVIA

Hello! Olivia here, with the Y2K podcast – but you know that, right? (smiles) I can’t believe we’re at episode 16 already… I got some messages about the end of episode 14. Um, I didn’t listen to it before posting and yes afterwards I did realize that the phone call I had with mum got recorded on there but I couldn’t be bothered with it at that point. (small smile) Call it context. Or something. (beat) I also had a message from someone who thinks they might know Johnno now, and asked if I wanted them to contact him for me. And I just want to be very clear on this – I am so grateful for all of you sending me information on the people and the goings on from 2000, but please, let me contact whomever I want to contact, don’t contact anyone on my behalf. Right? Just send me the info, if you want to. Thank you so much. Please stay tuned to the end of the episode for a podcast we think you will really enjoy. (beat) So, last week, Kat and Johnno had a big fight and Jess decided to get anti-depressants. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 16.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess! Today’s the day! I’m off in a bit to shoot the IKEA ad and I am so excited! (laughs) I just can’t hide it! (hums “I’m so excited”) I’ve never done a big ad like this before, in a big studio! I can’t wait! I’m booked all day for one very short TV ad so I guess there will be a lot of waiting around, but I don’t care! I’m going to be *excitedly* waiting around! (squeals) I’ll report back tonight – keep your fingers crossed for me today! Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 16.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! Wow! This is the day! Sending every positive thought your way – not that you’ll need it, you will be fantastic! Can’t wait for your update! (beat) So… I sort of have some news. Um. Last night Tia and Maia had a bunch of people over, just a few of their friends, and it was really relaxed and fun and Tia had made these incredible mini-pies with goat’s cheese and caramelized onions and – yeah, sorry, you want to hear the news, not me rambling on about the food. (laughs) Though the food was fabulous! (beat) So, I know I said I didn’t want to jump into anything, but… Rachel was there, of course. And she is so wonderful, and so gorgeous, and we talked pretty much the whole night, and it was easy, you know? No ‘urrr’ moments, no snags or misunderstandings or little annoyances, it just… flowed. With Claire I always felt like we were in some weird competition, and if I wasn’t losing she’d be in a bad mood. But Rachel is so easy to talk to, and she really listens. Anyways. In the end everyone else had either gone to bed or gone home and… We kissed. And it was so nice. Right, that doesn’t sound very exciting, but it *was* exciting, hugely exciting, mind-blowing and toe-curling and all that good stuff… It’s just that it also had that easy and nice and loving feel from the conversation we just had. Nothing else happened – though it was very clear we both wanted it to! – Rachel had to travel to a library conference in Wellington early this morning, or it might have been a different story. (laughs) But the whole thing makes me so happy. Whatever happens next, and yes I’ll admit that of course I want this to happen again, and more… This was really beautiful and makes me hopeful that there are kind people in the world, and some of them might actually like to hang out with me. Right, saying that out loud sounds a little odd. It’s just that everything’s been so *hard* for such a long time, and somehow, talking to Rachel, and, yes, kissing Rachel, made me… *exhale* for the first time in… (incredulous) a year or so? And yes, yes I do realize that sounds like a Whitney Houston-movie… (laughs) But that’s how I feel. Like I can breathe again, and like I don’t have to be so weighed down with all this crap that’s been happening. I feel lighter. And it can’t be the medication, because I only started that yesterday, and the doctor said it takes weeks to start having an effect. So it’s probably Rachel. And maybe the knowledge that the medication is happening, and will hopefully start to work soon. And also that Bri is feeling so much better and doesn’t need me as much. I feel… good. (almost in tears) Finally. I-

(knock on door)

JESS

Yes?

(door opens)

MAIA

Jess, could you possibly help me with – Oh, sorry! You’re recording for Kat?

JESS

I am, but I’ll be done in a minute.

MAIA

Um, hello Kat? (to Jess) Is that odd? I don’t know Kat…

JESS

No! It’s nice! (smiles) I am sure she says hi back! So what did you need help with?

MAIA

Right. So I am dyeing fabric and it is all getting a little unwieldy. I put too much in and now I can’t move any of it around without risking a purple flood all over the kitchen floor.

JESS

(laughs) Right, I’m coming. Don’t want a purple flood!

MAIA

(smiles) No, we really don’t. Thanks!

JESS

(to Kat) Well, you heard all of this Kat, I’d better go!

MAIA

Thank you, that would be wonderful. Aaaand, you can tell me all about what’s going on with you and Rachel…

JESS

(smiles) What makes you think anything’s going on?

MAIA

Um, I was there last night?

JESS

(smiles) All right. (to Kat) Love you! Sending good thoughts your way today, and can’t wait to hear how it was! Oceans of hugs!

MAIA

So, tell me…

(Clicks)

Scene 16.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

I’m back! Exhausted but very very happy! And even happier hearing your news! So amazing that something finally happened with you and Rachel – I’ve been waiting for this for weeks! (more serious) And even more amazing that you feel better, and lighter, and happier. Things have been so tough for you – and for Bri – for such a long time that it’s simply *your turn* to be happy now. OK? OK! (beat) So let me tell you about today. It WAS a lot of waiting around, but my on-screen husband was really nice, so we sat around and chatted while they set up endless scenes and lights and cameras. There were so many people there! Made me dizzy. And so the first few hours I was pretending to build Billy bookshelves – they wouldn’t let me build much for real which was a bit disappointing, but I get it – and chatting to Dan – that’s the pretend-hubby. Then it was time for the lines which I knew perfectly at home but they *flew* out of my mind the moment we started. Completely freaked me out. But the director – Sarah – was really chill about it, she said it happens to a lot of actors once they get on set. Dan also said it had happened to him countless times, don’t know if that was true but made me feel a lot better. So Sarah just told me to review the lines and try again, and I did, and it went really well! We did many takes, in a few different versions, but apart from the first time, none of the retakes were my fault, so it was fine by me. And it was fun! It was energizing to be in front of a camera, and even if it was a one-time-ad-thing it felt like a collaboration which was lovely. Made me want to do more! And longer! (laughs) Yeah, movies! Not sure how that will happen, though… Anyway, I-

(door opens)

JOHNNO

(annoyed but tries to hide it) You done yet?

KAT

Not quite, sweetie.

JOHNNO

(unhappy) You’ve been away all day and it’s late. I thought we could have some take-out and watch Buffy.

KAT

Sounds great. You want to order and I’ll be out in a bit?

JOHNNO

(angry but trying to control it) Fine!

(closes door firmly)

KAT

(sighs) I’d better go. I think I’d told you the important bits anyway. I am so happy things are looking up for you! Love you!

JOHNNO

(muffled) You comi-

(Clicks)

Scene 16.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Claire. Um, thanks for the message. It’s Jess, by the way. But you know that. (beat) I’m worried about Kat too. I’ve heard Johnno sometimes on the voicemails and he is… not nice. I heard one fight they had and… yeah. I’ve tried to approach it in a few different ways but it’s like I can’t get through to her. And I don’t want to criticize Johnno too much or maybe she won’t want to talk about it at all. (sighs) I am so damned far away. So powerless. Which is why I’m reaching out to you. I thought maybe you and Emma and Shirin could talk to her. Do an intervention-type-of-thing, you know? Or… something? At least you’re all nearby. So. Yeah. That’s all. Thanks. Bye Claire.

(clicks)

Scene 16.6

OLIVIA

An intervention. Hm… I wonder if that would work. Kat doesn’t seem open to much criticism of Johnno or the relationship at this point. Also… she seems pretty distant from the flatmates, I’m not sure if they are close enough to get through to her. Also it’s hard, because yes, Johnno is truly being awful, but in a way that’s sort of hard to pinpoint. Oh, I don’t know. Have to remind myself that this has all already happened. (sigh) And I know how it ends up. Well parts of it anyway. And, I guess that sort of puts everything in perspective. Not everything that feels vitally important when you’re in your 20s will stay important. So much of what they’re focusing on I have never heard of. That should make me feel better about the stuff going on with my parents now I guess. Should. Not sure it actually does… Sorry to be so depressing, listeners! I think I’ll go for a run and clear my head. Here’s this week’s trailer – hope you like it!  ‘Til next week!

(Trailer for Listen Rinse Repeat)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 17: APRIL 24-30, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 17.1

OLIVIA

Olivia, Y2K, blablabla – do you actually listen to what I say here at the top? (smiles) You probably do, right? Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like I don’t care. I do care. Very much. I’m just a bit frustrated right now. My parents are… (long pause while she thinks of what to say) flawed. Which is reasonable, right? Everyone is. I just have a really hard time with it. (sigh) Also I did some calculations, and… probably a little before this time of year in 2000… I don’t quite know when as I’m not sure if I was born late or early or right when I was supposed to but … I was conceived. Which is a dizzying thought. (beat) So I guess soon my mother will be pregnant in the files and it’ll be obvious who’s who. In a way it’s probably good, but I have enjoyed not defining this. It’s made it easier to distance myself from what’s going on in the voice mails and… everything else. (beat) You know what? I won’t confirm it straight away. I’ll leave you hanging a little, just to ease myself into the whole thing. All right. (smiles) You have been warned. (beat) On to this week’s voice mails. Last week Kat shot a TV ad and Jess got together with Rachel. Let’s see what they’re up to this week. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 17.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(library ambience)

KAT

(very quietly crying, low voice) Oh, Jess! I don’t know what to do! This morning we argued about… not sure what it was about really… I was telling Johnno about the shoot, and about me flubbing lines and about how supportive everyone was… I guess he got jealous of Dan? Which is silly, there was no flirtation there, and you know me, I don’t even think about other people when I’m in a relationship. It’s just not me. Anyway. We got into this awful yelling thing that we apparently do, and I don’t know (voice breaks) what happened, or what he said, but all of a sudden I (beat) hit him. I’ve never hit anyone in my life. But I slapped him. And it left a red mark. And… we were both shocked, I think. And of course I apologized, and we stopped arguing and made up, but (sobs quietly) what is happening to me? What am I doing? This isn’t (voice breaks) me. I just don’t recognize myself. (deep breath) I miss you so much Jess. I feel like I’m adrift without an anchor with you away. These voicemails are great but… Yeah. (sighs) But they are something. So much better than e-mails. (library noise, small laugh) My turn at a library today – Johnno’s working from home and I just had to get out of the apartment. Don’t think I’ll meet any gorgeous librarians like you did though (small laugh) – or if I did I wouldn’t notice them. (groans) I feel awful. Leave me a cheerful message if you can, my dear. I think my paid-up computer time is winding down, and the sadly un-sexy librarian is throwing me odd looks. I love you. I MISS you. So much. Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 17.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! Wow. So sorry everything is so tough. I’ll send you a proper message later, but I’ve recruited Bri to sing a silly song with me. So bear with us, ok? You ready Bri?

BRI

Yep.

(BRI and JESS sing silly folk song hoping to cheer KAT up. BRI on guitar.)

(To the tune of “Scarborough Fair”)

BRI: Is she coming to Auckland eN Zed

BOTH: Kat is nice, and funny and smart

JESS: We can make up an extra bed

BOTH: We love Kat she´s perfect and fab

BRI: Tell her to bring us a lot of beer

BOTH: Kat is nice, and funny and smart

JESS: We would welcome her and we would cheer

BOTH: We love Kat she´s perfect and fab

BRI: We can go to the beach and have fun

BOTH: Kat is nice, and funny and smart

JESS: We sure think she could use some sun

BOTH: We love Kat she´s perfect and fab

JESS: And she sure is a true friend of mine… (BOTH laugh)

JESS

(laughs) Love you Kat! So that was fun for us, I hope it made you smile a little! And thanks Bri!

BRI

Anytime, sib. And hey Kat. I’m sorry things are hard.

JESS

Right. Love you, Kat! Bye!

BRI

Bye.

(Clicks)

Scene 17.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Thank you Jess! And thank Bri for me! (laughs) That was funny, and silly, and lovely. You are just the best! (near happy tears) So, yes I am feeling better, but not only because of your wonderful singing (smiles). I… I’m pregnant. (incredulous laugh) After I’d left you that message I started thinking about why I wasn’t feeling myself, and I thought I probably have PMS, and then I started trying to remember when I’d had my last period, and then I realized it was a while ago. (smiles) And I went to Superdrug and bought a pregnancy test, and, yeah. (slowly) I really am pregnant. And I know it’s early days, and Johnno and I haven’t been together long, but… We’ve talked about kids. We’d both like three. So maybe it’s a good thing we’re getting started! We’ve even talked about names… I… I haven’t told him yet. He’s at a work thing, won’t be home until tonight. I want to see his face when I tell him. (smiles) I think he’ll be a great father. He always has so much energy, and so many fun ideas. (smiles) Oh Jess, I’m so happy! You know I’ve always wanted to be a mother and now it’s happening! Eeeek! So not coming to “eNZed” for a while I’m afraid – but thank you so much for the lovely song! It made me laugh and cry and very much feel like you’re here… How’s uni? And… how is Rachel? Huh? Let me know! I love you! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 17.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(worried but happy but worried…) Oh, wow, Kat! (beat) Congratulations! That is wonderful! I didn’t realize you were already talking about kids, but I am sure this will be perfect. It has to be, right? And you will be the best mother ever! This kid is very very lucky! And, you know, whatever ridiculous hormonal journey this pregnancy is going to take you on, I am right here, ready with sympathy and completely unresearched advice… (laughs) Just wow. You are the first of my friends to get pregnant, you know? So you need to tell me if I’m doing it wrong… (nervous laugh) I feel like I’m going to be an auntie! That’s wild! I have this weird urge to go look at baby clothes – isn’t that silly? Plenty of time for that! (beat) Um, you asked about Rachel. (smiles) Yeah, we’re together. (laughs) She got back from her conference and… we made up for all that waiting! It was… truly glorious. And very, very hot… Anyways, yesterday was Anzac Day which is a bank holiday here, so Rachel and I went for a hike in the morning. Fall is finally coming here, and it was one of those gorgeous crisp days. We ‘walked’n’talked’, and we both want to take this further, but we agreed to take it slow. (beat) She’s also coming off a rough break-up – though not quite as recent as mine – and I guess we are both trying to guard our hearts a little. It was a really good conversation. (beat) And then in the afternoon Rachel was doing a poppy-making workshop at the library for kids, and she asked me to join her. I agreed, provided I didn’t have to make a single poppy, and she promised (laughs) She kept her word, too. I was put in charge of doling out supplies, which I s perfectly in keeping with my skillset. (laughs) It was fun to hang out in the library with the kids and some of their parents. (beat) Yikes! I just realized that could be you in a few years… well more like five or so but, that is mindboggling. You’re going to be a parent. Woah. (smiles) Anyways… You asked about school. Um, I am learning a *lot*. The pace is ridiculous, but I feel like I am more in sync with it now, you know? I don’t feel like I am constantly running to catch up anymore, I am still running, but along with everyone else. And I am churning out text, there is never any time to really think about writing, there’s just doing the writing, and then jumping on to  the next writing assignment. But I think that’s part of the point. Like the first year of drama school where they were throwing improv at us from every angle until we stopped thinking and started just *doing*. Exactly like that, actually. (smiles) We’re in writing boot camp and I don’t think it ends until the year is up… Which is fair enough. So, my dearest Kat. Mommy-to-be. I am so happy and a little scared. But I know it will be “a-mazing”! You will make it amazing. Talk to you soon. Love you! Oceans and oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 17.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

SHIRIN

(worried, trying to sound upbeat) Hello? Kat? It’s Shirin. You all right? Next week is quiz night again, and you NEED to be there, we miss you! (very firm) If you don’t show up we will come drag you there. We know where you live, remember? No choice. No excuses. So. See you Tuesday 7 pm at the Stag. Bye.

(clicks)

Scene 17.7

OLIVIA

I… (lost for words) …Right… Well, I am sure you probably think I planned that… It’s what I would think… But… I really didn’t. I don’t listen ahead. Um… Yeah. So… Saying nothing. (deep breath) Right. Please listen to this trailer.

(Trailer for Oz 9)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 18: MAY 1-7, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 18.1

OLIVIA

Hello dear listeners, Olivia here, and very soon we’ll be heading back to Y2K… Today is one of those rainy gray days that I always forget make up most of spring… Guess there is a reason most Brits talk so obsessively about the weather! Hope it stops raining tomorrow – and that would be today for you listeners! – Tammi and I are planning to walk the Tolkien Trail. We’re both Tolkien fans – who isn’t, really? Though I will admit to getting bored sometimes when there are just SO MANY MEN and SO MANY BATTLES. Really long ones. Still. Looking forward to see some of the places that inspired Middle Earth. We’ll go even if it is raining, of course, but would be nice if it didn’t – so keep your fingers crossed for us please! (laughs) Anyway…. Last week Jess sang a song with Bri and (slight hesitation) Kat found out she was pregnant. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 18.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

 Good morning Jess! I feel great! I keep forgetting that I’m pregnant, and then I remember, and it’s like I have the most happily delicious secret ever. I do everything I normally do, but I’m pregnant! And only you, Johnno and my mother know. I wasn’t supposed to tell my mother – Johnno and I decided to wait – but I had to call her anyway, she’s been trying to get hold of me for ages, and… It’s like she’s telepathic or something. She always knows when I’m hiding something, so she kept subtly digging and digging until I just couldn’t keep quiet. She took it pretty well. To be honest I think she thought it was something really bad. The thing I wasn’t telling her. I mean, she was younger than me when I was born, so she knows it’s completely doable. And she never had a partner in parenting like I have Johnno. She did a great job, but I’m glad I don’t have to do it alone like she did. Seems really tough. Not that you ever know what will happen… Anyway. Johnno is so happy! He wants to buy baby stuff *right now* but I convinced him we should wait a little. I went to see the doctor, and she just confirmed that I’m pregnant and gave me an appointment for a 12-week-scan. Apparently that’s when the biggest risks have passed and you can start telling everyone. I’m in week… 5 or 6 probably. Still figuring out the lingo. (laughs) The baby is the size of a sweet pea now. Which is really sweet but also baffling. So tiny and… so vegetable-like. Anyway. I’ve been auditioning this week, for two plays and another TV ad – this one for washing-up liquid. Probably won’t get any of them, but I can’t help trying to figure out the timing in relation to the baby – will I show when this play opens, or when this is shot…? And of course I have no clue. Yeah. But I can’t stop auditioning, at least not yet. So me and my sweet pea are doing auditions. (smiles) And we’re doing the pub quiz thing with the flatmates tomorrow as well, Shirin left a really strange sort of upbeat but threatening message saying they would drag me there if I didn’t show up. And Johnno has a gig so I figure, why not. Don’t know how I’m going to hide the not-drinking from them, though… I’ll think of something. (beat) Sounds like you and Rachel are in a good place. Very, very hot, huh? I’m so happy for you! And thanks for – finally! – telling me a little more about uni. Makes sense that it’s an immersive course, and I am so glad you’ve finally found your pace. (looks at watch) Oh! Time to get ready! It’s a bank holiday here, and Johnno’s taking me to Brighton for the day – oddly I haven’t been yet, it’s only a short train ride away. It’s spring here, finally, and today looks like one of the good spring days. Wish you could join us! Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 18.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat, wow, Labour Day in springtime Brighton sounds incredible. I hope you had an awesome day. It’s so great to hear you so happy. And yeah, I’ve never understood that whole comparing-babies-to-fruit-thing. It’s not food, people! (laughs) My day was full of catching up on assignments, but it was nice to have a whole day of making sure I am on track with everything. I did this one assignment where I had to Disney-fy one of my old stories, and figure out where they would burst into song and dance, where the big mopey ballad was, and so on and so on. It was fun! And also made me look at the story in a new way, which of course was the point… And last night Bri and I – well mostly Bri if I’m honest – actually all Bri – made dinner for Maia and Tia. She made vegetarian poutine and it was greasy delicious. Hey, I set the table and… ate? (laughs) It felt good, and normal, and routine in the best way possible. I’m putting down roots, Kat! Just tiny tendrils so far, but still, roots! If you’d told me that in January I never would have believed you. Ha! Roots – root-ine! (laughs) Poot-ine! Right, being silly now, sorry! Fact is I’m feeling pretty damned good too. And yes, some of it is due to Rachel. She is just a really good person. And I can talk to her and tell her all about my fears and the bullshit baggage I’m still carrying around from Claire and she listens and understands like it’s no big deal. But it is *huge* to me. To be… talked to, and not talked down to. To be listened to and not judged. It is such a relief. We’re still taking it sort of slow, but I feel like the connection is getting stronger by the minute. It really doesn’t care that we’re trying to be sensible and take it slow! It’s all-encompassing, emotional and physical and… everything. It’s intense, but not heavy. I’ve never been with anyone like her. I always thought relationships were something you had to *work* at, and crap did I work on being with Claire, but this… is no work. Of course there are outside factors that can be annoying, and I am sure if we stay together we will fight like everyone else, but the core fabric of our relationship is easy, and light, and it is wonderful. Right. Enough gushing. I saw my therapist the other day and gushed at him too. He was surprised, I think. I guess not all his patients sit down and start rambling about how happy they are all of a sudden (smiles). But he seemed to think I was doing well, and that I am responding well to the medication. Which: yay! And thank you. Not sure I would have considered it if you hadn’t been so stern about it. (smiles) I’ve always had this idea that you should only need medication for physical stuff, like broken bones and high blood pressure. It’s what my p- it’s what people said when I was growing up. But that is nonsense. And I am glad I finally see that. Oh! Watch out for that computer virus! The I love you-thing. Also – no virus here, but I do love you (laughs). Be happy, mommy-to-be!

(clicks)

Scene 18.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess. So I went to quiz night and it was… strange. Claire, Emma and Shirin were all sort of distracted, and no-one paid any attention to the quiz, which never happens. Also it was on the trade union movement, which I actually know a bit about. They kept sort of rotating around me, asking questions, mostly about Johnno and me. They didn’t even seem to notice I was drinking Sprite the whole night, they were so intent on… whatever that was. Are they suspecting I’m pregnant? Then why don’t they just ask? It freaked me out a little actually. I left early. And just as I was leaving, Claire of all people tried to give me a hug and said, very intently, “Take care of yourself”. I avoided the hug and didn’t know what to say so I just left. Last time Claire said more than two words to me she was yelling at me over laundry. (beat) The only info of any note I found out the whole night is that Lee – my manager – is moving into my old room. Surprising. I didn’t think Shirin liked him very much. But it’s not my problem, they can do what they like. OK, I have to run to work – maybe I can get some intel from Lee on what is going on with them. Love you! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 18.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

CLAIRE

(matter of fact, faintly hostile) Hey Jess, just wanted to update you on the Kat sitch. So – last night. It took some effort, but I think the message got through to Kat. Emma and Shirin and I took turns talking to her, Shirin was the bad cop, I was the good cop – not my first pick! – and Emma was the neutral facilitator. We missed most of the quiz, but it was fine. Just some history stuff. Right. Talk to you later. Or, um, yeah. Bye. It’s Claire. Yeah. Bye.

(clicks)

Scene 18.6

OLIVIA

(laughs) All right, so this isn’t working quite the way they planned… (small laugh) Absurd! I wonder what Jess thought after these two messages? Illustrates how differently folks can understand the same situation, I suppose. (beat) I am getting… concerned about that. I mean I am putting all this out here but it’s mainly Kat’s and Jess’s words. Their perspective. For example I wonder how (slight hesitation) Johnno would feel about this? Or (slight hesitation) Rachel? Or Claire, for that matter? I feel like I am airing their – very old and musty – dirty laundry. Oh well. I’m doing it, can’t very well stop now, can I. I- (stops herself) Right. Here’s this week’s trailer, hope you like it. Talk to you next week.

(Copperheart trailer)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 19: MAY 8-14, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 19.1

OLIVIA

(excited) Hey, Olivia with Y2K here, welcome! Tammi’s here with me today.

TAMMI

(excited) Hi everyone!

OLIVIA

And we have exciting news!

TAMMI
Yes we do!

OLIVIA

We found out today where we’re going for our year abroad. (smiles) Any guesses? (beat) We’ll just say it! You with me Tammi?

TAMMI

Absolutely!

OLIVIA

We’re going to…

OLIVIA (at the same time as TAMMI)

Auckland!

TAMMI (at the same time as OLIVIA)

New Zealand!

(They BOTH laugh. A lot.)

TAMMI

(still laughing) Auckland!

OLIVIA

(still laughing a little) New Zealand! (beat) I guess you can tell we’re excited! We’re starting in late July, so not much time to get everything together.

TAMMI

Yeah, we need to pack!

OLIVIA

And get plane tickets!

TAMMI

And figure out housing!

OLIVIA

I think they’re going to help us with that, actually .

TAMMI

Good. But we need student visas!

OLIVIA

Yep. So many things to do. And before you send concerned e-mails, the university has checked everything, and we will not be putting ourselves to any more risk than if we’d stayed in Birmingham. All right? Safe as houses. (beat) Let’s roll the voice mails so we can get started!

TAMMI

Yeah!

OLIVIA

So (beat) last week, Kat had a very odd quiz night, and Bri made poutine. Not even going to try to say it together this time, Tammi. (BOTH laugh) Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 19.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, hope everything’s good today! Did you end up asking Lee what’s going on with our former flatmates? The way you described it sounded pretty ridiculous. Almost farce-like? (small guilty laugh) They are surely up to something… So today is mother’s day here, and in Canada as well. Mom hasn’t called since that horrible time in February. And I haven’t called either. And Bri wouldn’t pick up if either of them called. Before… before I moved to London, before they knew that I’m a lesbian and Bri is transgender, before… everything, we- they- my parents used to think mother’s day and fathers day were so important. We’d make them cards, and presents, and have cake, and it was all… a big irrelevant sham. Our family wasn’t warm and loving, we weren’t celebrating beautiful bonds between parent and child, we were just acting out what we thought was the right scenario. Like we were all in a fucking play, for Christ’s sakes! And then when we didn’t fit the parts they’d written for us, our parents booted us out into the world and slammed the door. I am angry – can you tell? Furious! (grunts and kicks at floor) (beat) Hey. I’m angry. That’s a good thing. And a good feeling. They *deserve* my anger. I-

(footsteps, soft knock on door, JESS opens)

JESS

(continues) Hey Bri- wow, what’s that?

BRI

For you.

(Bri places tray on Jess’s desk and pours coffee, clink of spoons on plates)

JESS

Really? Thank you!

(Bri hands Jess a small box)

BRI

Happy sib day.

JESS

Sib day? Oh! Yes. (almost in tears) Happy sib day, sib!

(They sit down)

BRI

Open your present.

JESS

 All right. (unwrapping small box, opening jewellery box) That is so beautiful. Thank you.  Pāua shell, right? Such a gorgeous shimmer.

 BRI

Apparently in Māori tradition pāua shell signals change and transition. And connection.

JESS

You- you really are the best sib ever. You know that?

BRI

(smiles) Likewise. (beat) Hey, your coffee’s getting cold.

JESS

Yeah.

(Both grab their coffee, BRI serves cake)

JESS

Mm, this is delicious. Did you make it?

BRI

Yep.

JESS

Of course you did. You are incredible. I love you.

BRI

Love you sib.

(clink-slurp)

JESS

(small laugh) You know, I’m still recording for Kat. I forgot.

BRI

OK.

JESS

Or maybe not quite forgot… I’m getting so used to letting stuff happen even when I am recording, and in a way it feels like I am inviting Kat further into my world, you know.

BRI

Makes sense.

JESS

But I can stop if it makes you feel uncomfortable?

BRI

No problem. (beat) Hey Kat? (pause) You want to hear my news?

JESS

(laughs) I am sure she would! And so would I!

(BRI hands   JESS a letter)

JESS

(Continues) University of Auckland… You’re in?!

BRI

Yup.

JESS

That’s wonderful! (reads) Start in August… transfer credits, good… scholarship! You got a scholarship?

BRI

I did.

JESS

This is the best day! (hugs BRI again) You hear that Kat? Sib day is the best day ever! (laughs) Oh, this makes me so happy.

BRI

Me too, sib. We can have lunch together. (smiles) And you can help me with *all* of my assignments.

JESS

(laughs) Come on Bri, we have to tell Maia and Tia!

BRI

Aren’t you forgetting something?

JESS

Right! (to computer) I love you Kat! Talk to you soon! Oceans and oceans! Bye!

BRI

Bye Kat!

(clicks)

Scene 19.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess! You and Bri are so lovely together it makes my heart melt! And happy sib day! I feel I can join in a little in this amazing new holiday (smiles). So glad Bri is staying, and going to uni, and that you are both sending down roots in Auckland! Though I was kind of hoping you’d be back living in London at some point, but that is purely selfish of me (smiles) I of course want you to be where you are as happy as possible and where you have the most interesting things to occupy your days. And I get that – at least for now – that is very much Auckland. And for me, right now, it is right here. With my blueberry baby! (laughs) OK, I’ll stop. But it is so danged funny. And alliterative! (to the tune of Blue Velvet) Bluuuue-berry baby… Johnno and I are in a good place right now. We’re both so happy about this pregnancy. And it – of course – got me to finally quit smoking those last two cigarettes a day, which is a relief for him. And for me! Honestly I feel sort of queasy most of the time anyway so don’t really feel like smoking much. But don’t tell him  that! He’s so proud of me for quitting. (laughs) (beat) I did check with Lee about him moving to the flat, and he didn’t really have much to add – he’s moving in next month, and as far as he knows, nothing special is going on. So who knows. It felt like they were all doing one of those improv things where one person comes into a scene they know absolutely nothing about, and they have to figure out what kind of person they are and what is going on. Only I never figured out what scene we were doing. Or what my role was. Maybe I should try to talk to Shirin alone… Not sure how, though. All we’ve ever done alone together is go to the pub and chat in the kitchen. And watch TV. Don’t live there anymore, and can’t have beer, so… Coffee maybe? (sighs) I’ll figure it out! (beat) Oh, got a call-back for that washing-up liquid TV ad. It’s not hugely exciting, but something. Not sure I can be as enthusiastic about washing dishes as I was about building bookshelves, though! (laughs) But it’s recording in a few weeks so *if* I am cast the baby definitely won’t show. Still so happy! My body *feels* completely different but it looks the same. Everything is a little tender and achy and bloated but I feel… good, you know? I forget sometimes and when I remember I just start smiling like a… baby? No, a.. what’s a really-self-satisfied animal? A cat (laughs) Of course! I’m the cat that got the cream. (laughs) OK my dear, I have to head to work. Friday night so a little busier than usual – at least I won’t be bored! Love you! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 19.4

OLIVIA

And we’re back! Seems like they’re both pretty happy for once.

TAMMI

Yes – and Bri and Jess were adorable.

OLIVIA

They were. And Kat was a happy cat. And you and I are happy too!

TAMMI

We are! Everyone’s happy for once. (laughs)

OLIVIA

(joking) We should just stop the podcast right here and make it a happy ending!

TAMMI

(joking) We should.

OLIVIA

(semi-serious) All right. The end.

TAMMI

(joking) Grand finale!

OLIVIA

(serious) Maybe we should.

TAMMI

(catches on) Really? But… There’s so many more files… And… I want to know what happens.

OLIVIA

Yeah. (small laugh) You’re right. We want to know what happens. I just… have concerns, that’s all.

TAMMI

I know. Heard you last week. I get it. But I also know you started this for a reason.

OLIVIA

(sighs) I did.

TAMMI

And we have listeners now. They want to know what happens too.

OLIVIA

(smiles) Yes. I know. (beat) All right. We’ll go on. (beat) I’m glad you’re here, Tammi.

TAMMI

Me too. (beat) Also I really REALLY want to know what happens next.

(OLIVIA laughs)

OLIVIA

Well, I can tell you what’s about to happen right now.

TAMMI

(smiles) What’s that?

OLIVIA

You’re going to tell our brilliant listeners about our merch.

TAMMI

Oh! Yes I am. We have merch! T-shirts and mugs and lots of other stuff too, with the Y2K logo and quite a few other designs. Go to y2kpod.com[slash]merch to find out how you can get some.

OLIVIA

All right. I think that’s it for today – here’s this week’s trailer. Bye!

TAMMI

Bye!

(The Prickwillow Papers trailer)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And also, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 20: MAY 15-21, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 20.1

OLIVIA

Hi everyone, my name’s Olivia and this is the Y2K podcast. But you know that. (smiles) Last week was a pretty happy episode all around – and I’m still feeling great. I’m going to New Zealand! There are going to be so many brilliant field trips and digs and excursions – New Zealand is fascinating and unique from a geological perspective, it’s- Yeah. (smiles) Not what you’re here for. ‘Welcome to Olivia’s Geology Podcast’ (laughs). And New Zealand is unique in many ways apart from geology. The flora and fauna for example – I’m looking forward to lots of stunning hikes! Also, I- (stops before she says too much, smiles) Let’s move onto the voice mails. Last week Jess was happy for Bri and Kat was a happy cat – basically everyone was happy for a change. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 20.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi there, happy Kat! (laughs) I can see you now, with a big cat grin. Perfect! I am so happy you’re happy. And I am sure you’ll be able to sound excited about washing dishes if you get it – you are a great actor after all! So, has Johnno told his parents about the baby? You haven’t met them yet, right? Guess that would be a… conversation. But even if they are a little apprehensive, they’ll come ‘round once they’ve met you, so, you know. Keep grinning. (smiles) Sorry. Guess this popped up in my head because Rachel asked me to go to Rotorua to meet her family. This taking-it-slow-thing isn’t going so well (smiles). Anyways, they’re a huge family – Mom, Dad, FOUR sibs and two sets of grandparents all living in the same neighborhood. Plus assorted nieces and nephews and aunts and uncles and cousins and goodness knows who else. They seem absolutely wonderful from Rachel’s descriptions, and I love the idea of a big family, but it’s also… pretty early days. And… intimidating. I mean, my whole family these days consists of one other person, and meeting big groups of new people tends to trigger my anxiety, so… Yeah. Also I cannot help feeling like a bumbling Canadian probably stepping on their cultural toes without meaning to, um, yes. The well-known cultural toes of New Zealanders… (laughs) You know what I mean. And I know I’m being silly. Not the anxiety thing, but the rest. Maybe I can ask Rachel if I can start with just her parents, or one of her sibs or something. Everyone at once is probably a bit much at this poi-

(Mobile phone rings, JESS checks phone)

JESS

(continues) It’s Rachel, let me get this, probably just logistics.

(answers phone, Rachel’s voice is only just audible)

JESS

(continues, on phone) Hello my love!

RACHEL

Hey love, we need to talk.

JESS

 What’s up?

RACHEL

Can I come over?

JESS

Now?

RACHEL

Yeah.

JESS

 (confused) Sure. What’s going on?

RACHEL

We really need to talk.

JESS

 (frowns) Right. (beat) You’re… freaking me out.

RACHEL

Sorry. Don’t worry. See you in 5 minutes.

JESS

Right. See you.

(beep as JESS hangs up)

JESS

(continues, to KAT) She’s coming over. Says we need to talk. But not to worry. What’s going on? Fuck. ‘We need to talk’. That’s code for ‘I’m breaking up with you’, right? Right? I don’t understand. I thought we were fine, thought we were great, actually. Fuck. (tries to calm herself down by breathing) Right. She has said nothing about breaking up. It’s just in my head. Until she actually says it I can’t assume that’s what will happen. It could be anything. Right? Yeah. Could be *anything*. (breathes again) Like what? Something with her family? Something at work? A wonderful surprise? (nervous laugh) Probably not that last one.  Five minutes is an incredibly long time to wait. Maybe I should just turn this off-

(Quick footsteps, knock on door, door opens)

JESS

Rachel-

(Rachel gives JESS a quick peck)

RACHEL

Jess, I-

JESS

Hang on, I-

RACHEL

Stop. I just need to say this. Before I lose my nerve.

JESS

I-

RACHEL

Please?

JESS

Mm.

RACHEL

All right. I love you.

JESS

(draws breath to speak)

RACHEL

(quickly) But that’s not what I need to tell you. (deep breath, blurts out quickly but gently) I’m pregnant. If all goes well I’ll have a (incredulous) baby in January. And I would really like to be in a relationship with you. And for you to co-parent this kid with me. (new breath) I know it’s a lot, and I completely understand if you don’t want any of this, but I’ve been thinking about it all night and… this is what I want. (long pause) Are… are you all right?

JESS

(shocked, tears in eyes) I thought you were breaking up with me.

RACHEL

(horrified) What? No!

JESS

(small smile) That’s good. Wow. I need to… process.

RACHEL

Of course.

JESS

Yeah.

RACHEL

(teary-eyed smile) At least you haven’t run out the door.

JESS

I won’t. I… I love you. (smiles through tears) But this… this is big. You know.

RACHEL

I know.

JESS

So… some time?

RACHEL

Yes. There is time.

JESS

(remembers) Crap! I tried to tell you but you wouldn’t let me. I was recording for Kat. It’s still on, I think.

RACHEL

(embarrassed laugh) All right. (beat) Well, hi Kat! Sorry about bursting in.

JESS

(by computer, small laugh) Yeah. You got a lot in this message, Kat. (beat) Take care my dear. I’ll talk to you soon. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 20.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess! That *was* a lot! And… wow. You have to get back with an update soon. That was like…  a proposal, really, wasn’t it? I mean, co-parenting is a really serious commitment. You know how I’ve always felt that marriage is sort of meaningless? And yes, I know, that at least I *could* get married if I wanted to, and it is horrible that not everyone can do that everywhere. But my point is that having a child, being a parent with someone, to me that’s the ultimate commitment. And for Rachel to ask you to do that is wonderful, but I can see it could also be really confusing and overwhelming and hard to figure out. (beat) I have all these questions! But I am sure you will tell me what you think I should know. Also (smiles) you think *my* relationship’s been moving quickly?? Yours just entered warp speed! (short laugh) I love you:s and a baby and commitment like that! (snaps fingers) If you end up going in on all of this of course… Either way. Rachel’s family sounds wonderful, but if you do end up meeting them, it makes sense to do it in small doses at first… (pause) You’re right, I haven’t met Johnno’s parents. And he hasn’t told them, he wants to wait until we’re at that ‘magical’ 12-week-mark. Don’t know if I’ve told you but there are two sets of parents to meet. His parents are divorced, and both have new partners. Seems he has a pretty good relationship with his father, and a more distant one with his mother. I think some of it has to do with the fact that he likes his father’s new partner much better than his mother’s. Also I think he ended up taking his father’s side in the divorce, seemed sort of messy, and his mother is very bitter about the fact that his father is now living with a man. Anyway. It’s all a bit complicated, and I am sure I don’t know even close to the full story. But I will do my best to charm them once we do meet. I tried to tell Johnno we should probably try to meet them *before* telling them about the pregnancy but he’s not sure. And they’re not my parents, so I can’t push. (beat) Anyway, Still feeling good. The queasiness has abated, so almost back to normal. Apart from feeling happy, of course! (smiles) Missing smoking a lot more, though, which is to be expected, but still annoying… Talked to my mother today and tried to get her to tell me about her pregnancy – apparently a lot of the time your pregnancy mirrors your mother’s – but she was useless! She could hardly remember anything! (laughs) Fully in character, though, she’s an amazing but sort of distracted parent. Meant I could get away with some sneaky stuff in my teens, so not really complaining. But then all of a sudden she would focus on me like a laser beam and just *pull* out of me whatever silly thing I was planning. She still does it – that’s what happened when she made me tell her about the pregnancy! (laughs) So, what-

(Front door being unlocked, opening, footsteps)

JOHNNO

Hello? Kat?

KAT

In here Johnno!

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT) Hello sweetie, you messaging Jess?

KAT

I am. Say hello!

JOHNNO

Hello Jess! (to KAT) Feel a bit silly doing that. You done soon?

KAT

Yeah.

JOHNNO

All right. (starts kissing KAT’s neck)

KAT

(laughs) Hey, I’ll never finish up if you keep doing that!

JOHNNO

(jokingly sulky) Fine, sweetheart. I’ll put the kettle on. (kisses KAT, leaves)

KAT

Thanks, sweetie. (to JESS) Sending hugs – I get that this is not the easiest of situations. But, you know, whatever ends up happening, Rachel loves you and wants to be with you. That’s a great thing. Doesn’t mean you will want to be with her and raise a child with her, but it means that you are loved and appreciated. And not just by Rachel by the way! OK? And if you want to vent, or reason, or rage or whatever, I am here. I am –

JOHNNO

Tea’s ready!

KAT

Coming! (to JESS) I’d better go. Love you! Oceans of hugs!

JOHNNO

(a little annoyed) Kat-

(clicks)

Scene 20.4

OLIVIA

(tears in eyes, a bit stunned) Oh wow. Not commenting. (smiles) Again. Yeah… Some of this I know how it goes – other parts – including most details – I really really don’t. So, a lot of this? Complete surprise. Shock sometimes. (deep breath) So if *you* think it’s a bit of an emotional rollercoaster imagine what it’s like for me – my parents are in there, and other folks I know in the present, and me – I’m in there too somewhere, or the pre-me or whatever. (sighs) It’s interesting, and exciting, and it answers questions I’ve had, but it is also tough. So. Going to go for a run, I think. ‘Til next week. Please listen to this trailer.

(Trailer for Escape!)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 21: MAY 22-31, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 21.1

OLIVIA

Hello there, this is Olivia and the Y2K podcast. I can’t believe it’s the end of May already – this term has certainly flown by! And now I’m right in the middle of exam season – have to make sure I pass everything first time round so I can go to New Zealand – the supplementary exams will be after I’ve left! So far I think it’s been going well, I just have two left to do. But feel free to send me good vibes, can’t hurt, right? (laughs) So last week we found out that Rachel is pregnant, Kat is still pregnant, and Johnno is being sort of… nice? Also Jess has some thinking to do. Let’s see what today’s voice mails bring. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 21.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess, so… You’ve been quiet for a little longer than usual. And I get it, completely. Lots to think about, huh? Let me distract you with some good news – I got a voice over job for a TV ad – not the one for washing up liquid, they didn’t want me for that. This is for cake mix. Which is sort of silly as I would never ever actually *use* cake mix, but hey, I’m an actor. I can do this. Also I tried it after the audition – wanted to make sure it wasn’t horrible – and it was actually quite tasty. So I suppose technically I *have* used cake mix now (laughs) Getting off my high horses… is it horses? Hippos? No! Hungry hippos and high horses, right? Hungry horses? Is this the kind of thing I need to know once I’m a mother? No, I’ll be speaking Swedish to the baby, and Johnno English, so the kid’ll be effortlessly bilingual, or that’s the idea anyway. So that means I need to know the Swedish kiddie songs and books and stuff, and he can do the ones in English. Right? And then we’ll bring in my mother and her Danish to really confuse the shit out of everyone… Yeah I have no clue how that will work. We’ll just have to figure it out! I am sure we will. We’ve started talking more seriously about names, and it’s hard – I don’t think much about cultural differences in our relationship, I mean, I’ve lived here for years, and we’re both from northern-ish Europe, but when it comes to names? He hates all of my choices and I hate all of his! At this rate the kid will be named Jonathan or Katarina junior because at least we don’t hate each others names… Would be horrible if we did! (laughs) We could do that American thing of having the same name but using different nickname, like Ina and… Jon? Or Than – that’s not a name! Thane? (laughs) Thane is a peculiar name. Sounds like Blaine – remember how we laughed at that name in… John Hughes film? With Molly Ringwald? What was it? I am sure you remember, so just tell me, OK? And there is still time to agree on names. Early days and all that…

(door opening softly, bare feet footsteps)

JOHNNO

(sleepy) You still up sweetheart?

KAT

Johnno! Did I wake you?

JOHNNO

No, just need a piss. (gives KAT a peck)

KAT

(softly) OK.

(during the following: sounds of footsteps, door opening, peeing, flushing, hand washing, footsteps)

KAT

 (continues, to JESS) Just got home from work, thought he was asleep. I can never go straight back to sleep once I get home – well you know that! I’m too wired. Though since I got pregnant I haven’t been sleeping well at all, so I really should try to go to bed earlier… Anyway. Had a good night in the pub tonight. Worked with only Lee, and it was pretty empty, so we mainly hung around talking. He’s so funny, he has-

JOHNNO

(still a little sleepy) Talking about me again, sweetie?

KAT

Not this time. About Lee, at work.

JOHNNO

(much more awake) Funny, is he?

KAT

Yeah! He told this amazing story today, there was this-

JOHNNO

(interrupts, angry) I don’t want to hear it.

KAT

O-K?

JOHNNO

(angry, sarcastic) So you’re sitting here telling your friend Jess all about this amazing bloke Lee?

KAT

Wha-

JOHNNO

(interrupts) On my computer?

KAT

Why are you-

JOHNNO

(interrupts) While I’m asleep in the next room?

KAT

Johnno, I-

JOHNNO

(interrupts) Pregnant with my kid?

KAT

Lee’s just a friend, what-

JOHNNO

(interrupts, blindly furious with jealousy) Or is it my kid?

KAT

What the hell? Of course it’s yours! I’m turning this off now, Jess doesn’t need to hear more of this shit.

JOHNNO

Bitch.

KAT

(to JESS) Bye Jess, love you.

JOHNNO

(mimics, hatefully) ”Love yo-

(clicks)

Scene 21.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(library ambience)

KAT

(very tired, all energy spent) Hi Jess. So sorry you had to hear that. (beat) Back at the library. Had to get out of there. We argued for hours. And then talked. And then he fell asleep but I couldn’t. Got about an hour of sleep I think. He´s just so jealous. I don’t know how to handle it. When he finally calmed down he apologized, of course. Said he didn’t mean it. Said he would never think it was (voice wavers) someone else baby. Oh Jess. (sighs) How the hell did this happen? I can’t… I can’t let him do this to me. This is not OK. He can’t say that to me. (beat) I’ve cried so much there’s nothing left. Just this empty feeling. (pause) But I understand him, too. He’s been betrayed by other girlfriends and it’s hard for him to trust me. I get it. Still doesn’t make it OK. And I think he got that. So I guess we move on. And I will get over this too. It’s just… Just… I don’t even know. Let me know what’s up with you. OK? I love you. Oceans and oceans. Bye.

(clicks)

Scene 21.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Oh fuck, Kat, how are you? Do you want me to call you? I can in emergencies, you know? Money-schmoney, all right? You are right, this is not OK. Saying that to you is not acceptable behaviour. Also, the arguments I’ve heard you two have escalate so quickly, like you’re fine, and then something sparks and it’s just – boom! You have to find a way out of there before the explosion – I mean together, you have to figure out what the triggers are and how to defuse them. Maybe Johnno needs to talk to someone about this jealousy thing? A therapist? Or couple’s therapy or something? It seems so wildly unfair that you have to deal with this when you are probably the least likely person to cheat on a partner I’ve ever met. My dear. I’m so sorry. I have to run to class but I can call you later if you want? And tell you more about what’s going on over here, nothing to worry about, much calmer on this end. Love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 21.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Thanks, Jess! So much. Just hearing your voice and knowing you are there and ready to call and support and.. everything means so much. And makes me feel better. And calmer. Yes. I will suggest therapy to Johnno, in whatever form makes sense to him. And… (sighs) you’re right. It always happens so quickly, I never understand what is going on until we’re all of a sudden in mid-argument. It’s OK. You don’t have to call. Let’s save it. I’m meeting Shirin for coffee. Feels good to reconnect a little. I went back home and got a few hours of sleep in, so now I feel less drained as well. Looking forward to your update – I’m glad that it’s calmer but still – lots going on, right? Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 21.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! So good to hear you sounding a little more yourself. And say hi to Shirin for me – we’ve only e-mailed a little since I moved here, and… I miss her. There’s been so much else going on – well you of all people know that! – I haven’t really thought much about Shirin and Emma. Will e-mail them soon. Anyways. So… yeah. What’s going on over here. Well, apart from what you heard, not much. I asked Rachel for time to process, and that’s where we still stand. Me processing. And of course, Rachel gave me some more info on this whole ‘Surprise! I’m pregnant!’-thing. Still haven’t quite grasped it’s real. I mean, she’s been clear all along that she’s bi and dates both men and women. Also, we aren’t exclusive – and we definitely weren’t even close to it when this happened – so it’s not a betrayal in any way. I think we were maybe heading that way before… all this. And I would love to be a parent… someday. And possibly with Rachel. Probably with Rachel, in fact. I mean she’s fantastic and everything’s been so great between us, but… now? The timing is… We haven’t known each other long, and I’m still in school, and who knows what kind of job I will find, and where in the world I will find it. (breathes) So. Rachel had a one-off-thing with this guy Mike at the librarian conference, and didn’t think much of it. Until now, of course. She is trying to figure out how to contact him but so far no luck. It was a huge international conference with librarians from all over the country and the world, and since she doesn’t know his last name, it’s hard. So many Mike:s! (sigh) This makes me worry. What if she never finds him – what will she tell the child? Or what if he turns up suddenly and wants to be involved and make decisions and just confuses the kid? Or – worst case – what if he turns up and forms a bond with the baby and then leaves again, breaking their heart? (breathes) Ugh. Way too much uncertainty there. Though in one way it’s all perfect of course – Rachel is offering me a ready-made family, I don’t even have to be pregnant myself! You know I’ve always felt anxious about that idea. But can I just jump into this? Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of – I don’t know – *briefing* before you do this much adulting? Or a class or something?? (brief laugh) Yes  I know I’m being silly. I feel overwhelmed by all these adult choices coming at me. I still feel like an irresponsible teen, for chrissakes! How am I supposed to be responsible for a kid?? Aaargh! Do you ever feel this way? About becoming a parent, I mean? You seem pretty zen about the pregnancy, I guess you mostly have to deal with making your relationship work… I have a therapy appointment tomorrow, thank goodness! Hopefully Antonio can help me sort through my feelings and thoughts about this whole… mess. Because right now I feel like I could *explode* with all these conflicting emotions and concerns and worries and – (breathes a few times to calm down)… (sighs) Anyways.  It’s “Pretty in Pink” by the way. That movie with Molly Ringwald? Andrew McCarthy plays Blaine. My friend Jen had the most enormous crush on him when we were teens so we watched it like fifty times. I was crushing on Iona, she was so cool. Still am if I’m honest. Didn’t tell anyone of course. (laughs) Right, enough for now. Take care of yourself. And of the little bean. I love you! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 21.7

OLIVIA

Listening to this I… I feel like I’m eavesdropping, you know? I haven’t felt like that so much before but this… Yeah. Something about their feelings and thoughts about the pregnancies feels more… private than even all that horrible sex talk. (beat) So… Mike… Must be a lot of Mikes out there. (beat) I can relate a little to what Jess is saying there – not that I am anywhere near parenthood, FIRM no on that! – but the (beat) feeling like a kid when you have to make adult decisions, and feeling like there should be a rulebook or a test or something. Like when I was little, and all the way up until I started learning how to drive, I sort of thought cars magically *knew* where they were going. I mean, I saw people drive them of course, but still. I didn’t get it. (laughs) I was so shocked when I realized that *I* had to make *every* *single* *decision* to get the car from one point to the next. I had to choose lanes and keep track of exits and pick a parking spot and so on and so on… And I suppose before doing this podcast I’d been seeing my parents the same way. Like two people who magically just knew what they were doing and where they were going. And it is becoming so clear that they… that they don’t. (sighs) And neither do I. Suppose we are trying our best, at least most of the time. That should count for something, right? (beat) ‘Til next week, listeners! Please listen to this trailer.

(Trailer for The Subjective Truth)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 22: JUNE 1-4, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

OLIVIA

Hello everyone, this is Olivia. I want to give you a heads up before we start – the voice mails this week contain a panic attack. Tammi’s helped me set up a resource page on the website, we tried to find as many hotlines and info-pages and support things from different corners of the world – or at least the English-speaking ones. So if you feel like you need anything like that, go to y2Kpod.com[slash]resources and hopefully you will find it there. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to ask for help.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 22.1

OLIVIA

(exhilarated) Hey brilliant listeners, Olivia here. I ran 10 k today and I am feeling fantastic! *This* is why I love running so much! It is such a feeling of freedom, and I can somehow think more clearly, and finish my thoughts properly. Like running gives me the headspace to really sort things out. Or to listen to podcasts, of course. But today it was just me and running. It was glorious. You should all try it! (laughs) The gospel of running according to Olivia, now weekly on the Y2K podcast! (laughs) Let’s get to the voice mails, shall we? Last week Johnno wa s jealous, Kat was tired, everyone was pregnant – well two of them anyway – and Jess was feeling like an irresponsible teen. Here we go – welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 22.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KIRSTEN

(unsure) Hej Katarina, det er mor. Jeg har ikke fået fat i dig på mobilen, så jeg prøver det her i stedet. Du kan vel sende en sms, så ringer jeg op. Du ved hvor urolig, jeg kan blive, jeg forstår, du har travlt men (worried smile) ja, du ved hvordan jeg er. Kys og kram til dig lille skat. Vi tales ved!

(clicks)

Scene 22.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess. Just got a message on here from my mother. She’s been calling and trying to text – which is hilarious because it’s either all capitals like she’s shouting at me or no spaces so I can’t make it out. The woman is an engineer and cannot conquer texting! It’s absurd! (laughs) Actually, I think there is no room in her brain for that kind of thing so she doesn’t bother learning. Anyway. That’s not what I wanted to say. I wanted to say that she left a message and I haven’t wanted to talk to her ‘cause I don’t want to say anything about Johnno and I, and I know if she gets me on the phone she’ll worm it out of me, she always does. Also (sigh) I missed mother’s day. It was this past Sunday in Sweden and I don’t usually do much, it’s not an important thing like it was in your family, but I always get in touch somehow, e-mail or call or, you know. And this time I didn’t. Yeah. I suck. I was just so wrapped in everything here. I need to call her but I don’t know what to say. (sighs) Yeah, I know. I need to do it. Will just pro-procastinate? -crastinate? One of those – a little first by talking to you… I brought up the jealousy thing with Johnno, finally. Talked to Shirin about it – she misses you! – and she said what you said – to just talk about it. Ugh. Why is that always the most obvious advice but the most difficult thing to actually do? Anyway. I’d been trying to sort it out in my head, and I tried to make it into our problem that we could work on together, so it wouldn’t be so much of an accusation. And it sort of worked, I think. Though it became a little more about me avoiding talking about men and a little less about him trying to find ways to control his jealousy than I’d have liked. He’s stressed out, too. He’s very happy about the baby, but turns out he’s really worried, too. Worried about what his parents will think, and about providing for us, and being a good father. Which makes a lot of sense. And – to answer your question – I have those fears too. Not so much about being a good mother – maybe that will come later – but about being able to handle all the responsibility of being a parent. Anyway. I think Johnno and I are in a better place. (beat) How did your therapy appointment go? Was your therapist any help sorting everything out? The timing is of course bad, but, if you want to be with Rachel, and you want to be a parent with Rachel, maybe that’s more important than the timing? You know? OK. I’m gonna go bite the bullfrog – (laughs) that’s not it! Bite the bullet? (laughs) Yeah. Call my mother. Oh! I’m recording that voiceover commercial this week and guess what? It’ll be airing in both the UK, Australia *and* New Zealand! So if you watch enough TV you could potentially hear my voice over there as well! Isn’t that wild? I love it! And remember to calm down, drop your shoulders and breeeeeathe. OK? Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 22.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Thanks Kat! I really needed that breathing reminder today! (breathes) Antonio the therapist was really helpful. He was sort of on the same page as you – I can’t do anything about the timing so why worry about it. This is happening now, whether I want it to or not. Funny thing about pregnancies. They’re so… non-negotiable. They start, and then you know at the end there will be a child to take care of. Mind-boggling really. (beat) If all goes well, of course. Rachel was spouting off all these scary miscarriage stats the other day, which freaked me out. I had no idea it was so common, especially early on. Which week are you in, Kat? Got me a little worried about you, too. (breathes, mumbles) Just breathe. Remember to breathe. (breathes) Right. I get a little freaked out.

(deep breath) The core issue is do I want Rachel *and* a child. I can’t have just Rachel anymore, they’re a package deal. And it’s just so weird that there seems no way of contacting the… ‘bio-dad’ – Rachel’s tried everything she can think of and now she’s given up, at least for now. Seems pretty unfair to him. But… what else is she supposed to do? (beat) Also – and this is selfish and silly – (beat) the child won’t have any of my genes. Ugh. Don’t like myself for that one. I don’t think I should care about that but part of me sort of does. I’m not worried at all about loving the child, and absolutely in every way being their parent, I just… (thinks) You know, when we were kids, Bri and I used to stand next to each other in front of the bathroom mirror and compare our noses, and eyes, and the shape of our ears. We can both wiggle our nostrils, and roll our tongues, so we would do that, and laugh, and… Dad would come and stand behind us and do the same, and that made me feel like we were *family*, you know? Those tiny similarities made me feel connected. And I always assumed I would have that with a kid. Not that I know *how* I thought that would happen since I’m not too keen on the idea of being pregnant myself… Yeah. Just… (shallow breathing, fighting to control emerging panic attack, crying, louder crying, on floor, panic starts to set in) Aaaaahhhh…!

(quick footsteps, JESS’ panic goes on)

BRI

(worried, muffled yell) Jess! (opens door) Jess! (kneels beside JESS, arms around her) Jess. (forces herself to be calm and controlled) Listen to me. Listen to me. I’m here. It’s going to be OK. Focus on your breathing. In (breathes slowly in) – out (breathes out) -in (breathes in) – out (breathes out) (JESS joins in, calms) -in (breathes in) – out (breathes out) -in (breathes in) – out (breathes out) Good. Keep breathing slowly. Focus on my voice. -in (breathes in) – out (breathes out) -in (breathes in) – out (breathes out) Slowly.

JESS

Oh Bri (sob)

BRI

(softly) There you are.

JESS

I- (sobs)

BRI

Shhh. Easy. Breathe.

(They breathe together)

JESS

(sits up, still on floor) Bri, I- I- crap.

BRI

You had a panic attack. It happens.

JESS

I know. But it hasn’t happened to me in… over a year.

BRI

You have a lot going on.

JESS

Yeah. I’m sorry.

BRI

Don’t be sorry. You talked me down from a pretty big ledge not long ago, remember? Trying to return some part of the favour.

JESS

You don’t owe me anything, Bri.

BRI

I know. Still.

JESS

Yeah. Still. Love you.

BRI

(voice breaks with emotion) Love you sib.

JESS

How are doing in all of this? You all right?

BRI

(emotionally) I am all right. (more composed) And stop trying to take care of *me*. You’re the one who just had a panic attack.

JESS

(small laugh) Yeah. It’s- I- (deep breath) Remember when we were kids and we used to stand in front of the mirror and compare our noses, and ears, and roll up our tongues-

BRI

(sticks out tongue and talks) Woo mean wike diss? (“You mean like this?”)

JESS

(sticks out tongue and talks) Eggsaky! (“Exactly!”)

(They laugh – and laugh-cry – for a while)

JESS

Anyways. Those little similarities, like the tongue rolling you’re still so good at, (smiles) those made me feel connected to you, and to.. Dad. And to.. Mom – we have the same ear shape, and… So many other things. I know it’s silly, but…

BRI

You’re wondering if it will matter. To you, to the kid. To Rachel?

JESS

Yeah. (beat) I feel awful.

BRI

Don’t feel awful. But also (thinks) Mom and Dad were never big on showing the love.

JESS

Definitely not.

BRI

Maybe in a more loving family, those small physical signals of connection wouldn’t be so important.

JESS

Yes. (breathes) That’s probably true. Oh Bri, I don’t know what to do.

BRI

(looking for the right words) You’ve been talking a lot about how this would play out if you said yes. (beat) What would happen if you said no?

JESS

(upset) We would… break up, and I would still see her, and… the child, ‘cause of Maia, and (breathes quickly, more shallowly) that would… (starts to panic again)

BRI

Shh. Breathe. (breathes, JESS joins. They breathe.)

JESS

(very upset) That would be horrible.

BRI

(softly) OK.

JESS

I- that’s not what I want.

BRI

(softly) So what do you want?

JESS

I want… Rachel.

BRI

All right.

JESS

(realizes) And a family with Rachel.

BRI

(softly) There you go.

JESS

(slowly) There I go. Wow. (huge sigh of relief) Where would I be without you?

BRI

Horribly self-absorbed and depressed out of your mind. (beat) As would I, for the record.

JESS

Yeah. (smiles) So glad you’re my sib.

BRI

(voice breaks with emotion) Likewise. (beat, smiles) So, am I going to be an aunt now?

JESS

(through happy tears) I think so.

(footsteps, soft knock on door)

MAIA

You two all right?

BRI

Yes, come in Maia.

(door opens)

MAIA

How are- (matter-of-factly) You’re on the floor. Comfy, is it?

BRI

Not really. Come on, sib.

(They get up, BRI helps JESS as she is still shaky)

MAIA

Want some tea? Tia’s making scones.

BRI

Sounds like the perfect thing.

JESS

Oh yes. (surprised) I’m hungry.

(They start heading out of the room, footsteps)

MAIA

So today I tried out those new enormous knitting needles – the ones as thick as my leg – and I couldn’t stop laughing, they were all over the place and my arms are way too short and the yarn was too thin and it was just…

(door closes, Maia fades out, very soft click)

Scene 22.5

OLIVIA

(shaken) I’m back. (pause) So, I cut that short, there was round 30 minutes of dead air after this. Sometimes with very faint kitchen-type sounds and voices I couldn’t make out. Thought you’d prefer to not have to sit through that. I- I don’t know what to say after that. (suddenly yawns) Sorry. Suppose I’m tired after today’s run. Also- Yeah. I’ll just go sleep. Talk to you again next week. Here’s this week’s trailer. Hope you like it!

(Trailer for Ignorance Was Bliss)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 23: JUNE 5-11, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 23.1

OLIVIA

Hey! This is Olivia, and I think you know by now which podcast you’re listening to. (Laughs) If you don’t, may I suggest you start from the beginning? This is going to make so much more sense if you do! (laughs) OK. Tammi and I are leaving for New Zealand in a month, and there is still so much to do. My parents want me to come visit before I leave, and I’m trying to fit it in but it will be tight. Maybe I’ll make them come here instead and pick up all my stuff that I can’t bring with me! We’ ll see. Sorting through my things and figuring out what to pack and what to leave. It’s hard! I like my stuff. Some people don’t seem to care, but I enjoy having my books and things around me. It’s comforting. (beat) Passed all my exams, happily, and so did Tammi, so we don’t have to worry about that. Plane tickets are booked. Covered by a grant, fortunately, air travel to New Zealand is so expensive. It even covers us ‘going home for Christmas’ and back again, though maybe I won’t bother. Last Christmas was… let’s just say was not fun. Anyway. Here are this week’s voice mails. Last week Kat missed mother’s day and Jess had a panic attack. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 23.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Good morning Kat, just a quick message before school. So… I didn’t realize until today that I was probably still recording during the whole panic attack, and that I never turned it off. Lots going on… Yeah. But it looks like it got sent off to you, so who knows how much dead air you got. (sips coffee) Sorry about that, my dear. Actually I’m not that sorry you got to hear the panic attack, you’ve been there before and I know you can deal with that even if it’s not pleasant, but also if you heard that you also heard Bri help me figure out what I want afterwards. And it makes me happy you were “there” for that. You and Bri and Antonio together were such a support in all of this. Thank you. So much. So… I called Rachel last night, and we cried and laughed and were so very happy. She’s been in Rotorua visiting her parents for a few days, coming back tomorrow. I simply can’t wait to see her! I feel so… A-MAZING – as you would say! (laughs) Making this decision feels so *right*. Yes, all my concerns are still there, but at a basic level this is perfect for me and for us and I feel confident that we can figure all this out together. So, hey! I’m going to be a mommy too! Who’d have thought? (laughs) As long as all goes well… Yes, of course that whole thing is still worrying – even more so now I am fully on board this adventure. (sips coffe) True to form, Jess, always finding new stuff to be worried about (laughs) But today I am going to try to just enjoy this feeling of excitement and contentment and… love. So much love. Also coffee. Cheers, Kat! (sips coffee) Love you more than coffee! (laughs) Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 23.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess! So I organized this when you were feeling down to cheer you up, but now it can be a celebration instead! I’m at the flat with Shirin and Emma – say hello!

SHIRIN

(at the same time as EMMA) Hello Jess!

EMMA

(at the same time as SHIRIN) Hey Jess!

(They ALL laugh)

KAT

So I told Emma and Shirin your amazing news, hope that was all right.

SHIRIN

You’re going to be a mum, Jess! That’s so cool!

EMMA

And a little scary! But wonderful!

SHIRIN

And Rachel sounds great.

EMMA

I can’t believe you managed to pick someone up in a library! That’s my DREAM!

KAT

Isn’t it? And a *librarian*!

EMMA

Oh yes! You managed to find the sexy librarian!

SHIRIN

Thought they were a myth!

KAT

Jess probably caught the only one.

EMMA

Yes, they’re like unicorns!

(They all laugh)

KAT

But seriously, Jess, I am so very happy for you, and for Rachel.

SHIRIN

Yes, congratulations, Jess, terrific!

EMMA

Also, Shirin and I just found out – you two – Kat and you I mean – both having babies on the way at the same time is so wild!

KAT

Isn’t it? (smiles) Never would have thought it…

SHIRIN

(carefully) But… You’re happy too, Kat, right?

KAT

Of course! Johnno and I have our issues like any other couple, but we are both so excited about the baby!

EMMA

Good. (carefully) And… he’s being nice to you?

KAT

(a little too quickly) Of course! Listen, um, I usually give Jess an update on what’s up with me, you want to do that too?

SHIRIN

(pause, then at the same time as EMMA) Absolutely, I-

EMMA

(pause, then at the same time as SHIRIN) Sure, I’ve-

(They all laugh)

KAT

Why don’t you start, Emma?

EMMA

Sure! Work is pretty much as usual, I’ve got a new assignment where I ask “the-man-on-the street” one inane question every week – I actually try to ask the *woman* on the street more often than not as they tend to have more interesting things to say, and also don’t tend to hit on me in creepy ways. (beat) And if they hit on me in non-creepy ways, that’s a win! (laughs) This week I was asking people how they felt about the whole Y2K problem six months in – the world didn’t go under, so was it all just unnecessary scare-mongering? You, know, that sort of thing.

SHIRIN

Oh, it was definitely much ado about nothing – I mean what actually happened?

EMMA

There was an alarm at a nuclear power station in Japan, that was probably the freakiest, but it turned out to be nothing. Also some dates showed up wrong, but that was harmless as far as I know.

KAT

Also I heard some ticket machines on buses in Australia stopped working. So yeah. Much ado.

EMMA

(laughs) That was pretty much the consensus of the people I spoke with as well. And apart from work – I’ve started blogging, which is fun, and got quite a few followers already. You should check it out, Jess! And, you know, still having fun being single, as per usual. Your turn, Shirin!

SHIRIN

All right, let’s see… Work is fine, but dull. As always. (sigh) I just wish I could stop doing all this admin stuff and fixing other people’s designs and start doing some more actual designing of my own. I entered this competition last week where the prize was a design internship in New York, that would be seriously cool. More realistically, I am job hunting. But there’s not much to apply for. Oh, and am back with Dave, again. Not sure what we’re doing anymore. But, you know, we seem to be happier together than apart, at least for now, so we shall see.

KAT

Hang on, you’re back with Dave? How did that happen?

(EMMA laughs a little)

SHIRIN

Well… He was miserable. And I missed him. And we have fun together, I just got… bored I suppose.

KAT

But what about… what’s-her-name?

EMMA

Donna.

SHIRIN

I like her too. But it was never supposed to be some long-term-thing, it was just fun. (beat) Could be again perhaps.

KAT

But –

SHIRIN

Oh no, I’m completely done with exclusive monogamy, Dave knows that.

EMMA

Cool.

KAT

Yeah, good, glad you worked that out. (beat) Right. Anything else you want to say to Jess before we log off?

EMMA

Miss you Jess!

SHIRIN

Yes, I miss you too! And let’s e-mail more often, yeah?

KAT

Sounds like a plan! OK, we love you Jess!

SHIRIN and EMMA

Love you!

(They all laugh)

(clicks)

Scene 23.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(a little teary-eyed) Aw, thanks so much for doing that Kat! Made me feel almost like I was hanging out in the kitchen with you all again… And made me miss you all even more! Will try to stay on top of my e-mail game a little better… Oh, Kat, I am so happy I am just… bursting! Like a balloon (laughs) No, that doesn’t work! But I am happy. And relieved. I didn’t know what to do with myself when I thought I had to break up with Rachel. She’s so *easy* to be with. And she makes me want to be… better. When I’m with her I feel like I *am* better. It’s just the most wonderful thing and-

(soft footsteps, knock on door)

RACHEL

Jess?

JESS

Rachel! Come in!

(door opens, JESS gets up, they kiss)

RACHEL

(softly) Hello, my love.

JESS

(softly) Hey there. (louder) Sit down, say hi to Kat – you haven’t yet, right?

(JESS sits)

RACHEL

Not really. Apart from… when you and I were very much focused on other things. (RACHEL sits)  Hello, Kat! I’ve heard so much about you.

JESS

And she’s sure heard a lot about you – mostly me going on about how wonderful you are.

RACHEL

(jokingly) Sure, and what a bother I am  getting myself pregnant all of a sudden.

JESS

(laughs) Yeah, a little bit of that too.

RACHEL

(smiles) I can imagine. But what are friends for, right?

JESS

Listening to all your worries… and joys too! And you are a joy, you know.

RACHEL

Good. So are you my love. (beat) And Kat, I hear you’re pregnant too!

JESS

She is – life works out in funny ways sometimes. I think you two must be more or less at the same point in pregnancy.

RACHEL

Really? I was sort of late in figuring out what was going on, but the doctor says I’m probably at 8 or 9 weeks, so still early days. Hey Kat, are you having any morning sickness? Don’t know why they call it that, it’s more like all-day nausea for me. Apart from that not many pregnancy symptoms so far – my mum apparently had easy pregnancies, and so did my sisters, so hopefully I have those genes…

JESS

Yeah, fingers crossed! Oh wow. So much could go wrong Rache. (sigh) Just power through, right?

RACHEL

 Yeah. Together, remember?

JESS

(smiles) Oh yes. Together. (deep breath) I- (RACHEL’s tummy rumbles, they both laugh) So, Kat, I think I need to feed the pregnant tummy-rumbler over here. Thanks again for doing a message with Emma and Shirin, that was wonderful! And take care of yourself – you probably need to go eat something too, pregnant lady! (laughs)

RACHEL

Take care Kat!

JESS

Love you! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 23.5

OLIVIA

Right… I- I loved ‘meeting’ the flatmates properly! It’s funny how they seem so abstract when they are just talked about or leave brief messages. It’s so much more real when they’re in conversation. And they all seem pretty happy again in this one, so that’s a relief. Though with the way everything’s been going so far I- I can’t help wondering how long it will last. But what do I know. Could be sunshine and roses all the way from here… That’s it for today, here’s this week’s trailer.

(Trailer for Moonbase Theta, Out)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.  

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 24: JUNE 12-18, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 24.1

OLIVIA

Hello everyone, I’m Olivia, and this is the Y2K podcast. So this week, the voice mails are quite short, I guess Kat and Jess had other things on their minds. Tammi and I are going to do a listener Q & A episode, aren’t we Tammi?

(TAMMI says something unintelligible)

OLIVIA

(laughs) Oh, c’mon Tammi, you set up a mic for yourself, what are you doing over there?

TAMMI

(shouts from other end of room, laughing) I’m sorting out the questions! Do your intro!!

OLIVIA

(smiles) All right, all right . So first, we’re going to listen to the two voice mails for this week, and then we’re going to be back to answer some questions, right, Tammi? (pause) Tammi!?

TAMMI

(bellows) I’m busy! Play the voice mails!

OLIVIA

(laughs) All right. So last week Kat got talking with Emma and Shirin, and Jess was finally happy with Rachel. Let’s see what this week brings. Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 24.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, it was so nice to hear Rachel in your message – and a little less emotionally charged for both of you than last time. (smiles) I guess my pregnancy is a few weeks ahead of Rachel – maybe two? But won’t it be amazing to have babies at the same time? We won’t be in the same time zone, but that doesn’t matter, we’ll be awake at any hour with babies, right? And we can swap worries and woes and joys and.. it will be so cool. And I did have some morning sickness but it went away, so that’s good. Are you talking about names yet? I guess probably not as it’s so new for you two. We’re still stuck. I want a name that works in both Swedish and English, something a little old-fashioned but solid, you know? And he likes these long, almost French-sounding names which are really pretty, but I can’t even pronounce them in English, so how would that ever work in Swedish? Well, we have time. Are you finding out if it’s a boy or a girl? I don’t mind either way, but Johnno wants to know, so we’re going to try to find out. (beat) Oh! Completely forgot – Johnno and I are off to Sweden next week! We are visiting my mother, and celebrating midsummer with her. I’m really looking forward to it – I miss her – but am also a little apprehensive. We’ll be staying with her, and I hope she and Johnno will get along-

(front door opens)

JOHNNO

Kat? You there sweetheart?

KAT

In here!

JOHHNO

(footsteps, kisses KAT) I got this for your mum – what do you think?

KAT

Oh… Champagne? Wow!

JOHNNO

Yeah, nothing but the best, right?

KAT

B- (stops herself) That’s lovely. Just finishing this up for Jess, be out in a minute, OK?

JOHNNO

All right. Don’t be long!

(footsteps, closes door)

KAT

OK, Jess, have to go. (whispers) My mother doesn’t like champagne, I mean, she’s Danish, she drinks beer. But no use saying that, he’s so happy. (normal voice) Love you Jess!

(clicks)

Scene 24.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, wow! Hope you have a great time at your Mom’s, say hi from me, all right? I still remember her delicious meatballs… And co- colds- (laughs) that wonderful yoghurt-y stuff that sounds like ‘coldsore’? Stop laughing at me! I know that’s wrong… (smiles) Everything’s good here, I’m off to therapy tomorrow but not sure what to talk about – I feel pretty relaxed about everything right now. For once! Bri reminded me that Sunday is Father’s day in Canada, and, you know what? Dad can just go… sulk in a corner somewhere. He and Mom had many, many chances at being decent human beings, and they failed each one, so I’m not going to mope around about this, I’m going to do something fun with Bri and Rachel and just forget about that useless old man. I’m going to be a ‘father’ now, right? So it’s my day too. (deep breath) Rant over. So, school is good, but busy as always, we’re-

MAIA

(yells, muffled) Jess, help!

(JESS opens door)

JESS

Hey Maia, what’s – OH!

(lots of boxes being dropped, opening, thousands of beads scattering everywhere, JESS and MAIA exclaim loudly)

MAIA

Shit!

JESS

I’ll help you.

(They start crawling around on the floor, picking up beads)

MAIA

(panting a little as she’s crawling around) I’m sorry – thanks – shouldn’t have brought them all at once – never learn do I – new project for Town Hall.

JESS

(panting a little as she’s crawling around) S’all right – so beads, huh? – that’s new – do we need to sort these?

MAIA

(still on floor) Nah, I’ll do it later – just get ‘em in one of the boxes – ow! – watch out! – put my knee on one.

JESS

(still on floor) Ouch, yes painful – hang on (gets up, catches her breath) I’m just gonna say bye to Kat and then I’ll help you pick all these up, right?

MAIA

(still on floor, breathless) Thanks! – (yells) Hi Kat! – Sorry!

JESS

(footsteps, back at computer, to KAT) Life with an artist is certainly never dull. (laughs)

MAIA

Hey! – heard that! (starts laughing)

JESS

So have fun in Sweden, take care of yourself, and keep your beads in their boxes!

MAIA

(still laughing) Hey!

JESS

(laughs) Love you, Kat! Oceans of hugs! (To MAIA) Right, to the rescue!

(MAIA laughs)

(clicks)

Scene 24.4

OLIVIA

So, we’re back! And now Tammi is sat across from me at her own microphone!

TAMMI

(laughs) Yeah, hi!

OLIVIA

So how are we doing this Q and A thing?

TAMMI

Right. I have a whole bunch of questions here from our Twitter and Facebook, mainly. And also from some of our fantastic Patreon supporters, of course!

OLIVIA

I still can’t believe we have those! Thank you so much!

TAMMI

Yes, *very* cool. And, we make Patreon-exclusive episodes for our wonderful patrons, you and I, don’t we?

OLIVIA

We do. Or rather, you do, and I follow along.

TAMMI

(laughs) Yes, they’re called ‘Tammi’s Takeover’ ‘cause I take over and I decide everything. (cartoon-y evil laugh) Really, it’s ‘cause you have enough work doing the regular show. They’re fun, though, one is out already, the next one will be out in about two weeks, on July 1st, and you found something quite special to include in that one, right?

OLIVIA

Yeah. So in a different folder of my mom’s laptop were some files marked ‘Drama School – Shows’. In there I found some audio of Kat and Jess doing scenes from drama school, and some outtakes. We will be including one of those in the next Patreon episode.

TAMMI

Tammi’s Takeover, episode 2!

OLIVIA

(laughs) Yes, should be fun! So if you want to listen to that, please go to (paper noise) patreon.com/y2kpod and you can support us and join in the fun!

TAMMI

And now – time for some questions.

OLIVIA

OK!

TAMMI

The first one’s from Dan, one of our wonderful patrons. He asks “What do you know now, after 23 weeks of making a podcast, that you wish you knew before you started?” Mmm, that’s interesting!

OLIVIA

(small laugh) So. Many. Things. Um, where do I start… I had no idea what I was doing, really. So, yeah, don’t accidentally record mumblings and phone calls and post them in your episodes, I suppose.

(TAMMI laughs)

OLIVIA

(continues) And that outro we recorded, I should have done that from the start instead of reading everything out every episode. Also, I… I started this podcast for me, really. Because I wanted to find out certain things. I didn’t think too much about the fact that there would be listeners, who would react and respond and have questions and opinions. I wish I had thought more about that. And, I… things would have been easier now if I had talked to my mum before starting the podcast.

TAMMI

How do you-

OLIVIA

(interrupts) Right. Next question.

TAMMI

Hm. All right. (beat) Marnie, on Twitter, asks “How did Olivia become interested in geology?”

OLIVIA

(smiles) I was always interested in rocks, really. Spent a lot of time outdoors growing up, and I was forever poking around on the ground, collecting rocks, sorting them, learning what they were called. Then when I was… eight maybe? We were on holiday and went to see these limestone caves with stalactites and stalagmites, and the guide explained how they were formed, and I was… hooked. Tried to learn everything I could after that.

TAMMI

Did you learn that trick to remember which are which?

OLIVIA

(small laugh) Yes! Stalactite has a ‘c’ in it, for ceiling, so you know they form from above.

TAMMI

(smiles) Exactly! I loved learning that. (beat) Ready for another question?

OLIVIA

Sure.

TAMMI
Shall we continue with a question from Casey, on Twitter?

OLIVIA

OK.

TAMMI

They want to know – “now that there are two pregnancies happening in the voice mails, can you at least confirm that *one* of the babies is you?” Ooooh. Good question!

OLIVIA

Right. Yeah. Um. No I can’t. I haven’t listened ahead so I don’t know exactly how this goes – of course I know when I was born and who my parents are, that’s not the issue, but… You’ll have to listen to see what happens.

TAMMI

All right. Another question from Terri on facebook, they want to ask “what made you start a podcast”.

OLIVIA

I’ve listened to *a lot* of podcasts. I listen when I’m out running – some people have music, I listen to words. (smiles) I started with Serial – I think a lot of people did – and then went on to a lot of true crime stuff, and then news and documentaries and current events – there are so many great podcasts. And this spring I’ve been getting into audio drama podcasts as well – they’re a great way to take your mind off everything that’s going on. Um. One that I’ve been listening to recently from last year is The Deca Tapes, and it is a mystery podcast written by a guy name Lex Noteboom and it’s about people who are only known as their role, for example the entertainer, or the cook. And they have a rulebook, that is only for them, and they must follow those rules all the time. And… then something happens, that shouldn’t have happened. And it makes the characters behave differently than what is expected. And as each  deca tape – is  released, you hear from a different member of the group, and you hear their version of the story, and how they feel about the events that transpired. What I really loved about this show was that I had so many questions, you know, going in and out of my head every time I listened to the episodes and so I’d immediately go straight to the next episode. And some of my questions would be answered, but you know like ten more questions would come in my head and I… may have stayed up all night one time… And then, another one that I’ve recently found is Civilized, it’s a group of people and they are preparing to start terraforming a world before the rest of humanity comes in and colonizes it. And… it’s just very silly along with dark humour, and after a couple of epsiodes I was able to talk to the creators of the show on Twitter and I was amazed when they said it was all completely improvised. They just start with a very short starting sentence and away they go. That is all the writing that happens for the show. And… I don’t know if you’ve seen improv Tammi, I have when I’ve been to the student bar in fresher’s week, and (whistles) improv is really difficult to do well and make your character seem believable and seamless within the world that’s been created. And that is something that the people behind Civilized do excellently.   Yeah – what do you listen to Tammi?

TAMMI

A lot of pop culture pods, also, I love RPG as you know, and I just discovered actual play podcasts, where they record an RPG session and some add sound effects and music sometimes, and some people get really into character. Recently I’ve been listening to Fate and the Fable-maidens – it’s fantastic!

OLIVIA

And RPG, for those uninitiated few…?

TAMMI

TTRPG, really – Table-top Role Playing Games, of course. Like Dungeons & Dragons. Hey, we’re getting off topic. Why did you *start* a podcast?

OLIVIA

Well, I’d found the audio files, and they seemed cool… (pause)

TAMMI

And…?

OLIVIA

(uncomfortable) Well. (pause, sigh) There are things going on in my family that… Things I didn’t know. I thought if I turned this all into a podcast I would find out some things I… wanted to know.

TAMMI

(knows the answer but wants Olivia to tell the listeners) Like what?

OLIVIA

Like… No, that’s enough. Have to keep some of my secrets. (small laugh) Suffice to say that neither of my parents listen to podcasts, I don’t think they even know what a podcast *is*. (beat) Next question please!

TAMMI

All right. (beat) This is from Vincent, he says “I would like to know, what is Olivia’s life like outside of the podcast?”

OLIVIA

(smiles) Well. That’s a big question.

TAMMI

Yep.

OLIVIA

I feel like I talk about uni, and running, and, well, listening to other podcasts (small laugh)… I like to read. And you and I hang out quite a bit…

TAMMI

Yeah. We go on walks, or hikes, or watch Netflix, or just talk.

OLIVIA

(smiles) Lots of talking. And we’re bingeing Atypical right now.

TAMMI

(smiles) It’s all right. And lately we’ve done some online student union stuff, pub quizzes and the like. But I’m thinking maybe Vincent is wondering about your family, as well?

OLIVIA

Right. (beat) Well, haven’t seen them since Christmas. We talk on the phone.

TAMMI

(knows the answer but wants to know what OLIVIA will say) Are you close?

OLIVIA

Yeah, I mean… We are. (beat, clears throat)

TAMMI

OK. So, next question?

OLIVIA

Is it a quick one?

TAMMI

Think so. Rayna on Twitter wants to know if you will continue the show once you move to New Zealand.

OLIVIA

Yes, that’s quick. I will – *we* will, right Tammi? ‘Cause we’re both going to Auckland.

TAMMI

Yes we are. And the mics are coming with us. Possibly I can worm my way into the student radio there as well, we shall see.

OLIVIA

I think that’s all the questions we have time for today. Thanks Tammi!

TAMMI

Thank *you* It was fun!

OLIVIA

OK, here’s this week’s trailer. Bye!

TAMMI

Bye!

 (Trailer for The Lucky Die)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 25: JUNE 19-25, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

OLIVIA

Hi everyone, Olivia here. After listening to today’s voice mails I want to give you a content warning for pregnancy complications. You can read more in the episode description if you are concerned about this. We have a resource page on the website, where we have tried to list as many hotlines and info-pages and support things that we could find from different corners of the world – or at least the English-speaking ones. So if you ever feel you need any resources like that, go to y2Kpod.com/resources and hopefully you will find it there. If not, please message me and I will see if I can put it up on there. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 25.1

OLIVIA

Hello again, I’m Olivia and once again we are heading twenty years back in time… After last week’s Q and A I got some listener reactions. Some were very encouraging, and some were a little… exasperated with me I think. (sighs) I am not trying to be mysterious. I am just trying to find the balance between what I share and what I keep private. It’s a funny thing, podcasting. Putting feelings and thoughts and opinions and bits of daily life online for anyone to listen to… And, of course, I’m putting not only my own out there, but also those of my mum and her friend. And some others as well. (smiles) It’s not like I planned it all before I started. I just found the files and got going. I’m not usually that impulsive, but… I was angry, and disappointed, and felt like I lacked information about- about, well about my family. And about… me. (beat) Let’s move onto this week’s voice mails…

So last week Jess and Maia picked up thousands of beads, and Kat and Johnno were heading for Sweden. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 25.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, we’re in Sweden! I’m in my mother’s study, on her computer. She’s making meatballs and koldskål for Midsummer – koldskål’s the one you think sounds like coldsore (laughs) – it’s Danish and it is lovely. Anyway, Johnno is helping out with the cooking. So far it’s going pretty well. I realized today that Johnno is the first serious boyfriend I’ve brought over here – she’s met some of the others when she’s visited me in London, of course, and then there was the high school boyfriend, but this is a big step. Also, I’m pregnant, so it’s *really* serious, and everyone knows it, so… Yeah. She seems to like him OK. And he’s on his best behavior and trying to charm her which is good. So all round looking forward to this week. And it’ll be nice to have midsummer here for a change – remember that one year we got very drunk and made a midsummer pole and stuck it in the middle of a roundabout in Palmers Green and danced around it and I tried to teach you the frog song? (sings) Små grodorna, små grodorna…(laughs) I think this will be slightly more traditional. I actually –

(Door opens, footsteps)

JOHNNO

Open wide!

KAT

(opens mouth) Mmm! (chews) Hot! (chews, swallows) That’s perfect!

JOHNNO

Your Mum says to ask you if we need more salt?

KAT

Nope. That’s perfect. (They kiss) Thanks for helping out.

JOHNNO

Just trying to make a good impression. You done soon?

KAT

No, just got started. But won’t be very long.

JOHNNO

All right. (jokingly) But don’t leave me alone with Kirsten for too long – who knows what I’ll tell her – or what she’ll tell me? (laughs)

(footsteps during the last few words of the previous)

KIRSTEN

Tell you what?

JOHNNO

(nervous laugh) Just joking. I was saying Kat shouldn’t leave us alone too long or who knows what stories we’ll tell.

KIRSTEN

(not quite buying it) OK. (to KAT) How were the meatballs?

KAT

They were perfect! (smiles) I’ve missed your meatballs.

KIRSTEN

Not more salt?

KAT

Maybe a smidge. (beat) Oh, and come say hi to Jess, she’ll be hearing this.

KIRSTEN

(pulls up a chair, with real warmth) Hello Jessica! How are you? I’m so excited for you, I know you’ve wanted this for so long. How’s school? And are you settling in all right? Katarina tells me wonderful things about someone called Rachel? I am so happy for you! And your brother is there and-

KAT

(interrupts) Sibling. Or sister.

KIRSTEN

Sorry! (small laugh) Of course. But, Bri is there with you, right? Must be so nice to have h- her there. You know, you are always welcome here, and Rachel, and Bri. I would love to meet them both. But I get that of course you are all so very far away now and-

JOHNNO

(interrupts, feels left out) The meatballs –

KIRSTEN

Yes, (to JESS, small laugh) I’m making meatballs, Jessica. And we need to get started on the kammerjunkere. Pity you’re not here – I remember you liking both! (smiles) I’d better go. But take care of yourself, and I hope to see you again at least within the next year or so? Hugs from me, and happy Midsummer! Bye! (gets up, to KAT) Katarina, take all the time you need. (to JOHNNO) All right, Jonathan, let’s get back to work.

(KIRSTEN and JOHNNO leave, door closes, footsteps.)

KAT

(laughs) My mother sure likes you, Jess! And she is right, it would be amazing to see you at least sometime in the next year… But I guess with these two babies it is going to take a while… It was really nice doing that message for you with Shirin and Emma, but it was also a little strange – I hadn’t seen them for a while either, and we all live in the same city. I’m going to try to hang out with them more. Anyway. I’d better go help with the cooking – who knows what they’re talking about in there! Take care my dear, love you! Oceans of hugs!

(gets up from chair)

KAT

(exclaims in pain) Ow! Helve- OW! Sorry, Jess, I’m sure it’s fine. Love you! (grunts in pain)

(clicks)

Scene 25.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, so that was a little worrying, are you all right? Rachel says she gets weird muscle aches sometimes when she changes positions, apparently it’s the muscles stretching to accommodate the growth of the baby, so maybe it was that? (beat) Right, now I’m worried, get back to me as soon as you can, all right? You know what my mind is like once it’s started spinning. (deep breath) I love you! Oceans and oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 25.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, sorry I got you worried. I’m… I’m bleeding. It could be nothing, but we’re off to the emergency clinic to check it out. (shaky breath) I’m still hoping it’s nothing, you read all these stories… Yeah. But not looking so good. Not feeling so good either. I-

KIRSTEN

(muffled) Katarina, kommer du?

KAT

(to KIRSTEN) Kommer, mor! (to JESS) Have to go. Keep your fingers crossed, Jess. I’m scared. I love you.

(clicks)

Scene 25.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(worried) Oh, Kat, I am crossing every finger and toe. I *hate* that this is happening. But, like you said, there are lots of stories out there of people bleeding and in pain in early pregnancy who then go on to have healthy happy babies. I know, ‘cause I just googled. A lot. Let’s make this one of those stories, right? Ugh. This is one of the times it really really *sucks* to be so far away. But at least your mom is there. (a little dubiously) And Johnno, of course. Don’t feel like you have to keep updating me, you have other things on your mind, but maybe get your mom to shoot me an e-mail if there’s anything to report? I love you, I love you, I love you, and I am *willing* this to go well. Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 25.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Fuck. Kat. Got your mom’s e-mail. (tears well up) I am so, so sorry. This is not fair. Not fucking fair. You are my best friend and I want your life to be easy and fun, not hard and horrible like this. I want to… strew your path with roses, I guess. (slight laugh) Silly of me, I know. And roses have thorns, so doubly silly. Right. Won’t do that. All I can say is that sometimes very bad things happen to wonderful people and it’s not fair and it makes no sense. In that Stephen King book I read a while back it said something about the world having teeth, and biting you whenever it wants. This feels like one of those times. You’ve been bitten by the world’s teeth and it is awful and… it’s nonsense! *Why* you? (deep breath) Right. Will stop ranting now. Get back to me when you feel up to it. I love you so much, Kat. Sending hugs, hugs and more hugs.

(clicks)

Scene 25.7

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

(very tired, no tears left) Hi Jess. This’ll be short. Thank you for ranting. I feel… empty. I’ve cried so much there is nothing left. There’s just blood. So much blood. And pain. (in Swedish/Danish) Lort. LORT. Fucking hell. My body has to take care of this on its own now, is what they said at the clinic. They made it sound like it was a completely normal thing but this feels absolutely abnormal. It’s… grotesque. Why doesn’t anyone ever tell you about this? Apart from all the crying and the horror of not-being-pregnant-anymore it is just so physically *gruesome*. (sigh) I’d better go to the bathroom. Again. Love you, Jess. Thanks so much for being there. Hugs across all the oceans.

(clicks)

Scene 25.8

OLIVIA

(near tears) Right. That was… heavy. Wasn’t expecting that. (deep breath) Should have expected it though. What… Shit. (beat) So far from the light and impersonal voice mails I was expecting when I started this… But also… More real. (sighs) I’m not sure what else to say, so… Talk to you next week, dear listeners.

Here is today’s trailer.

(Trailer for Boston Harbour Horror/Occulting 315)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 26: JUNE 26-30, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

OLIVIA

Hi everyone, Olivia here. So this week we again have a content warning for pregnancy complications. You can read more in the episode description if you are concerned about this. Also, this is not the time to skip ahead, so if you haven’t listened to last week’s episode, please go ahead and do that now. We have a resource page on the website, where we have tried to list as many hotlines, info-pages and support things we could find from different corners of the world – or at least the English-speaking ones. So if you feel you need any resources like that, please go to y2Kpod.com[slash]resources and hopefully you will find it there. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 26.1

OLIVIA

Hello everyone, this is Olivia and the Y2K podcast. Sooo… I’ve gotten quite a few e-mails and messages since the last episode. And of course, you are all correct. Not much use keeping this a secret anymore, I was just so thrown by what happened in the voice mails… I already told you I’ll be 20 this year, and just doing basic math of course there isn’t really time for Kat to get pregnant again and give birth during the year 2000. Unless if it was a really premature birth, but… That’s not it. Rachel and Jess are my parents. Ta-da! (smiles) They still don’t know about the podcast. I know I should have told them long ago, and I have tried a few times, but, well, they have other things going on. And Kat – yes, I know her too. I didn’t realize who it was at first, I grew up calling her a different name. But she doesn’t know about the podcast either. I should e-mail her. (sighs) I will e-mail her. (beat) So… last week Kat had a miscarriage and Jess was really worried. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 26.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat. You still in Sweden? Your mom’s e-mail said you had some sort of follow-up today? I am so sorry. Again. Don’t know what else to say. (sad sigh) Yes I do. You know what? I was watching TV with Bri just now, Simpsons reruns, but still pretty funny, and the commercials came on, and there it was – *your* voice on that cake mix ad! It was so cool! I flew out of my chair and Bri thought I’d gone completely bananas! So you are now a worldwide success as a voicover actor! (smiles) Thought that would give you something else to think about for a change. (pause) Also I got this idea the other day. For a screenplay. I mean, I’ve had lots of ideas, but this one, I think it could be something. It’s sort of about you and me, but not really. It’s about long distance friendship, and finding your way in life, and supporting each other from afar. I’m in that stage where I’m completely gripped by the idea and all I want to do is write and write and ignore everything else. Have to start on my dissertation for real after winter break so not much time for this but… I love this idea. I think it could really be something. But, you know, ask me again when I’ve written fifty pages or so, that’s usually when I start loathing my previously brilliant plots… (sighs) Words, words, words. They’re not enough today. I want to fly over and give you the biggest of hugs. I am so sorry. I am so sorry you had a miscarriage. I want to wrap you up in pink cotton wool and protect you from all the evil in the world. Yeah, not being so realistic today…

(soft footsteps during previous)

RACHEL

(muffled) Jess? You there?

JESS

Come in love.

(RACHEL opens door. Quick peck)

RACHEL

Recording?

JESS

Yes.

RACHEL

Kat, I am so sorry. I know you probably don’t want to hear that from me, but… I am just so very sorry.

JESS

Yeah. Words are pretty inadequate.

RACHEL

They really are.

JESS

I’ve been trying to distract her with other things – you have anything to add?

RACHEL

Um… (thinks) I passed Maia outside doing the most incredible… beaded… sculpture all in shades of orange and yellow and red and just a tiny bit of blue.

JESS

Yeah! It’s the one they needed all the beads for, Kat, the ones that were all over the floor the other day. (small laugh) Maia’s making some kind of fire-woman, it’s really gorgeous.

RACHEL

Yeah, and it *sparkles* in the sunlight, did you see?

JESS

Really? Missed that – it was overcast when I saw it earlier.

RACHEL

We should take some pictures and send to Kat.

JESS

Definitely. Hey, you wanna go do that while I finish up in here?

RACHEL

Sure.

(JESS opens desk drawer, rummages, hands camera to RACHEL)

RACHEL

(continues) Thanks. See you in a bit. (gently) And bye, Kat.

(RACHEL leaves, footsteps, closes door)

JESS
So we’ll send you pictures of Maia’s latest. Took us ages to pick up all the beads the other day – luckily Bri came home and helped out too. And still finding beads in the corners! (laughs) But it really is going to be superb, it’ll be in the stairway of Town Hall which has this magnificent grand old staircase with light flooding in from above. (Beat) The biggest of hugs my dear. Take care of you – you’re the only Kat I’ve got, you know! Love you so much!

(clicks)

Scene 26.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Jess, thank you. I’m back in London, arrived a few hours ago. I had that check-up at the clinic yesterday and it’s all gone. All… gone… Fuck. And they tell you that like it’s a good thing, you know? It’s all gone, so you can try again. I don’t… I… fuck. FUCK! It’s like people telling you to get a new pet right after your cat died. Fuck, it’s like people telling you to get- to go get a new boyfriend right after he died. It’s NOT OK! Why  would they say that? They say it like it’s a consolation. Yes, sure, we can try again, but I just lost my BABY! I just lost all my hopes and dreams and the fucking life I thought I would have. I – (cries) Oh Jess. Wish you were here. Johnno’s at some work thing, so it’s just me. Just me and no baby. (voice breaks) They said the baby died weeks ago, you know. That it wasn’t developing properly, and this is “nature’s way of dealing with it”. Well, I hate nature! I just want my baby! I just want my BABY (wails) I read all about how common miscarriage is but I just didn’t… I just didn’t relate it to me. Which is completely… self-involved, I guess. I mean, why wouldn’t it happen to me? It happens to so many people. All the time. And no one TALKS about it. Like it’s shameful or something. It’s not shameful, it’s just HORRIBLE. (small sad sigh) Thanks for trying to distract me. Maia’s sculpture sounds awesome. And (a little awe-struck) you heard my voice on TV, this week of all weeks… I’m a global sensation, right? Yeah. So-

(00s mobile ringtone, KAT looks at phone)

KAT

(continues) It’s Lee, better get this. (sighs) (beep) Hi boss… Yeah, I’m back… I’m- I will be OK… Tomorrow afternoon?… Sure, why not… Oh?… Really?… Are you trying to cheer me up?… (smiles) Yeah, OK… Thanks, yeah, I’d like that… OK… See you tomorrow… Thanks, Lee… Bye. (beep) (pause) So, Lee wants to promote me to bar manager. He swears it’s not just to make me feel better, that he’s been thinking about it for a while. I said yes, of course. More money — and more responsibility. But why not? More to do will be good, another way of distracting myself. (sighs) I’ll be OK, Jess, I will make myself OK. But I suppose it’ll take some time. So if you can stand my venting for a while that’d be good. I-

(Front door unlocks, KAT rushes over)

KAT

(continues) Johnno!

(They hug, and kiss. KAT sobs.)

JOHNNO

(gently) Welcome home, princess.

KAT

(voice breaks) Oh, Johnno.

JOHNNO

Sweetheart.

KAT

So glad that you’re home.

JOHNNO

Left early to see you.

KAT

Thank you sweetie.

JOHNNO

Come here, let’s sit. (they move to sit down) You all right?

KAT

No. But better now.

JOHNNO

We have tickets for Cypress Hill tonight – you up for it?

KAT

Sure. Why not. Anything for a distraction.

JOHNNO

Great. I booked us a table at Belgo Centraal.

KAT

(beat) OK, sure. Oh! Lee called, he-

JOHNNO

(suspicious) What’d he want?

KAT

He promoted me to bar manager.

JOHNNO

Oh. Did you accept?

KAT

Of course! More money!

JOHNNO

You know I have money for both of us sweetheart.

KAT

Yes, I know. But more is always good.

JOHNNO

I suppose. (beat) I don’t like you working there.

KAT

I need a job. And this is fine.

JOHNNO

Yeah. But I don’t like it.

KAT

All right. (exasperated) Well, if a better one comes along I’ll be sure to jump on that.

JOHNNO

All right. (beat) I’m going to hop in the shower, sweetie. (seductively) Want to join me?

KAT

(horrified) No! (beat) I mean, go ahead, I’ll join you another time.

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT) See you in a bit.

KAT

Yeah. (remembers, goes to computer) Hi Jess, sorry! (sound of shower) Don’t know what I was talking about. I love you!

(clicks)

Scene 26.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

EMMA

(starts leaving a voice mail completely on impulse) Oh, Kat. Lee told me what happened. I am so very sorry. You’re not answering your phone, and I get that, of course. (beat) Just wanted to see if you needed anything… Let me know, all right? Anything… And… (long pause, in Welsh) Beth yffach alla i ddweud? (pause) Oh, I’m shit at this sort of thing. (calls out) Shirin? SHIRIN? You there?

SHIRIN

(muffled yell) Yes! (coming closer) Where are you?

EMMA

(yells) My room!

SHIRIN

(opens door, a little annoyed) What?

EMMA

Help, please? I’m voice mailing Kat, and I… don’t know what to say.

SHIRIN

Why are you bothering her? We sent texts, she knows we’re here.

EMMA

(emotional) I just… It’s so horrible… she was so happy….

SHIRIN

(softens, sits down) Of course. I am very sorry about the miscarriage, Kat.

EMMA

(small gasp) Are you sure you should say that?

SHIRIN

Why not? It’s what happened. And it’s not a bad word, or something to be ashamed of.

EMMA

You’re right. Of course. But it’s so… awful.

SHIRIN

It is. And I really with it hadn’t happened, Kat. But now that it has, I hope you recover quickly, and that you feel better soon. And if we can do anything, we are here for you.

EMMA

Yes! Anything! I’m so sorry!

SHIRIN

We both are. Love you Kat.

EMMA

Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 26.5

OLIVIA

So now you know, listeners. I feel… lighter. And yes of course I know that present-day… Kat… does not have a child my age. So I knew something would happen, I just didn’t know what, or when. And when it did happen it was really shocking… Anyway. I’m going to e-mail Kat straight away, before I lose my nerve. Please stay tuned for this week’s trailer. Wish me luck!

(Trailer for Continuum Force)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 27: JULY 1-9, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 27.1

OLIVIA

Hello listeners! Olivia here. Still packing and organizing for New Zealand. I thought I didn’t have that much stuff here in Birmingham, but once I started going through it I realized I had *loads*… As you know I e-mailed (slight hesitation) Kat last week and she got back to me yesterday – she has a pretty busy life so I actually expected it to take longer. She suggested we schedule a phone call for next week. Which made me a little nervous actually. I mean, I am looking forward to talking to her, but also the e-mail was very short and I don’t know how she feels about the whole thing… Maybe she’s angry? Would I be angry in her situation? I… probably would. Let’s hope she is more forgiving… Right. Moving on to this week’s voice mails. Last week Jess and Rachel admired Maia’s art, and Kat was promoted. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 27.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess. So I did my first shift as manager last night. It was fun, actually. Didn’t think it would be. You know bar work isn’t my favourite, but this managing business feels good. I like having an overview of what’s going on. Also turns out learning new things is a really great distraction tactic. (small laugh, then sighs) Johnno doesn’t like it, though. I know he’s jealous of Lee – which is silly of course – not only do I not even see other men but also – Lee? I was never attracted to him, and we shared a flat for over a year. Anyway. So once I have some more energy I’ll probably be looking for another job. (sighs) Still feel… empty. I AM empty. (small sob) Fuck. I keep replaying that last month of pregnancy – did I do anything wrong? Did I lift something I shouldn’t have? Or eat something? Or was I too upset or too stressed or too… something? I know it doesn’t work like that. I know it’s most likely nothing I did, but… It feels like I must have done something. And… if we *were* to try again at some point, what should I do differently? No coffee at all? Lose weight? Only eat bland food? What if we DO try again and I miscarry again? I… The thought of that is just… unbearable. How do people cope? I HATE that this is all completely beyond my control. (sigh) Johnno has this endless loop of activities planned. He always plans lots of fun stuff but this is a little much even for him. I think it’s his way of dealing with everything. Also to help me deal by distracting me, I guess. And it’s good, in a way, but I am also tired and would just like to crash on the couch sometimes, you know? And watch some silly mind-numbing TV… Instead, in the past week, we’ve been to… let’s see… three concerts, two plays, one gallery opening and… five dinners with friends. Also various drinks and lunches and… no wonder I’m exhausted. Will try to get out of whatever we’re supposed to be doing tonight, I think.

(00s mobile ringtone, KAT looks at phone)

KAT

(continues) It’s my mother, I’ll talk to her later. (beep, ringtone stops) Stop it, Jess! I know what you’re thinking, that she’s worried about me and will get even more worried if I don’t answer. I know. I know. (sigh) It’s just… It’s like- like she has a direct channel straight into my heart, so when I talk to her all the grief and the guilt and the sadness and the awful feelings surface. And that is so hard, and so *exhausting*. And I’m barely functioning, so I really need to be able to shut out those feelings most of the time, and only let them out in small doses. You know? So. Will talk to her later. Maybe after my Buffy season 1 marathon. (small laugh) I love you Jess. I hope things are good at your end, let me know, OK? I’m still here for you, no matter how exhausted and grief-stricken. Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 27.3

JESS

Kat my dear. So wonderful to hear from you. And I am so sorry this is so damned hard. And this is not your fault. Of course it’s nothing you did. These things just happen. And they are… horrible. Sounds like you are doing what you need to do to function as well as you’re able – I hope you‘re enjoying your Buffy marathon! And congratulations on your promotion! That is great. And I get that Johnno is jealous, which is not ideal, but, you know, if you enjoy the work, maybe he should just get over it. Right? What if he gets jealous of someone at whatever new job you end up getting, are you going to keep changing jobs? (beat) Also, I completely get that it can be hard to talk to your mom right now. So maybe if you don’t feel up to it, you can e-mail or text her and explain that? Anyways. Advice section over (small laugh). Do what you need to do to feel all right in all of this. Or as all right as you can. (beat) So… I’ve been writing my screenplay. I’m probably about a quarter of the way through the first draft of the story, and I have the rest all plotted. It’s pretty good, I think. It’s almost writing itself which is a good sign. Also the characters that sort of started as you and me but with lots of details changed have now taken on a life of their own and are very distinctly *different* in so many ways, which is fascinating. It’s a story of friendship spanning ten years, and all the things that happen during that time. I think you’d enjoy it. No vampires or monsters, but, you know, has some other qualities. (laughs) Maybe once you are feeling a little less exhausted you might want to read it? No rush, I’ll probably be working on this for months on end… (pause) Yesterday was Canada Day, and Bri and I organized a celebration picnic in the park nearby. It was a bit cold – not really picnic season, which neither of us had actually thought about – it’s July, so yeah… But we bundled up and brought extra blankets for everyone. Maia and Tia were there, of course, and Rachel, and Gavin and Helena and some other people from school, and Sharon and some other ballroom dancing folks. It was really nice and relaxed and pretty much everything I wanted Bri’s birthday party to be that it wasn’t. Bri made these fantastic Brie cheese puffs and mini pizzas, and I made mulled wine for the first time ever which was very tasty. And easy! Also red which fit the Canada theme! And everyone brought wonderful things – we had potato salad and tuna sandwiches and pretzels and Pad Thai and chicken wings and sausage rolls and it was all delicious! And Gavin brought a crate of L & P which is this wonderful New Zealand soda! And then at the end Maia brought out this *enormous* chocolate cake with a Canadian flag! It was so cool! You know, I never really celebrated Canada Day in London, but having Bri here it felt so right. Celebrating us and us as a family family and our… heritage, really. And Rachel is family too now, of course, and it just felt so good.

(knock on door)

JESS

(continues) Come in!

BRI

(opens door) Hi sib.

JESS

Bri! Come in! I was just telling Kat about our picnic.

BRI

Hi Kat. It was an epic picnic.

JESS

It really was.

BRI

Like picnics in those British mystery books we used to read.

JESS

Oh, yes! Enid Blyton? Famous Five!

BRI

Yeah. Though my favourites were always the five find-outers and dog.

JESS

Buster! (laughs) I’d forgotten about those. They had wonderful picnics.

BRI

They did. You could fly over and have some leftovers, Kat.

JESS

Oh yes! That would be great. Please do that. (looks at Bri) You’re smiling very wide. Anything special?

BRI

Well. I got a job today.

JESS

That’s wonderful! Where? How? When? Where? (laughs) Tell me everything.

BRI

That café down the road – Gerrie’s? They had a sign in the window, I walked in and they hired me.

JESS

Full-time?

BRI

Yes, until school starts, and then on week-ends. The owner – Gerrie – duh! – has broken their arm, so they need full-time assistance for a while. Start tomorrow.

JESS

That’s great!  Congratulations! I always thought that looked like a really nice place, but I never went inside. Now it’ll be my new hang-out, I’m sure!

BRI

(smiles) You will always be welcome.

JESS

Thank you. (smiles)

BRI

I’m going to go heat up some leftovers. Want some?

JESS

Yes please! Any Brie puffs left?

BRI

A few. I’ll get you some. Bye Kat! (leaves, door closes)

JESS

Kat, don’t know if I’ve kept you updated on this, but it took a while for Bri to get a student visa, so she hasn’t been able to work properly until now and money’s been tight. Maia and Tia have been letting her stay rent-free, so generous – and just like them of course. So this is very very good news. Also we can have a café hangout space like they have on Friends! Central Perk, right? Well we’ll have Gerrie’s! And Bri can wear a cute apron and have pretty hair like Jennifer Aniston and serve us all lattes… Or something. Well, I can dream, right? (laughs) Kat, do- (pause) Do you want me to avoid talking about Rachel and her pregnancy? I can, you know. I get that it’s probably painful to hear about, but I want to check – don’t want to avoid it if you don’t want me to. (beat) Keep finding your restful moments, whether they are in distracting TV or work or other things. I love you!

(clicks)

Scene 27.4

OLIVIA

And I am back! Wow – Friends! I’d forgotten that show existed. I only remember seeing reruns… It’s all right I suppose. Sometimes funny. But also sort of… tired and predictable. My mum made me watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer growing up – and probably none of you are surprised at that, right? (laughs) – and I like that much better. But… well it’s their thing, you know? I don’t think kids often get that excited about their parent’s pop culture obsessions. Had to find my own stuff, (jokes) be a rebel. (smiles) Though my rebellion was mainly reading science journals and studying rocks. (laughs) So wild, right? (smiles) Anyway. You know what’s next, right? Trailer time! Talk to you next week!

(Trailer for This Planet Needs A Name)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 28: JULY 10-16, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 28.1

OLIVIA

Hello everyone! Olivia here… I am pre-recording this two days after the last episode, because – I am flying to New Zealand when you hear this! Very excited! So please send me good vibes for the very long flight. (beat) You’d think they would have found a way to make the flights shorter in 20 years, but, nope! They are still mind-numbingly long. At least Tammi and I won’t have to deal with a smoking section on the plane like my mum did… I mean Jess (smiles)… Some things do improve! Also… I have some news for you. I’ve talked to  Kat. We had our phone call yesterday. She goes by a different name now – one you might recognize, actually. Forgot to ask her if she’d be OK with me telling you that, so let’s stay with Kat for now. (beat) I was so nervous, trying to explain all about the podcast and the voice mails and what a podcast is, and… everything. She was really nice about it. She thought it was funny, mostly. And once I sort of hesitantly reminded her of what was going on in her life at the time, she got all serious, and then… She wanted me to tell you that she thinks this story – her story from this time – should be told. And that’s all she wanted to say about it. So I suppose I have her blessing. I also asked her advice on telling my parents about it. And she thought for a while and then said to just tell them, both at once if possible. So that’s what I’m going to do. More on that after today’s voice mails. Last week Jess and her flatmates had a picnic, Bri got a job, and Kat was feeling empty but enjoyed being a manager. Here we go – welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 28.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat. A really quick message before school. Everything all right? It’s been a few days more than usual and I just want to check in. You know me (smiles) I worry. And I love you. And I wish things weren’t so hard for you. Oceans and oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 28.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hi Jess. Sorry about not responding for a while. Still caught up in Johnno’s whirlwind of activities (small laugh). It is exhausting, but I am starting to feel like I need the distraction. Whenever I am trying to relax I go down this hole, you know? Like I am sucked into all the negative thoughts and feelings and it’s all one big black hole. Then when I’m at work or out on the town with Johnno I feel… almost normal. I don’t know. Maybe I’m running away. But it feels like I need to, at least a little. (sighs) You can talk about Rachel and her… pregnancy. It hurts. It really hurts, but… I am hurting anyway, and… I want to know what is going on. It’s a strange pain. I feel so guilty, because why would it hurt that Rachel is pregnant? It makes no difference for my situation. My baby is… gone, and I should be able to simply be happy for you. And I am, of course. But it’s also so mixed up with the pain and the ‘Why me?’ and with how absolutely powerless I feel. I saw a pregnant woman on the bus yesterday and it made me want to *scream* just looking at her. (beat) Nothing to do with her, of course. All to do with me and my hopes and dreams and pain. (beat) Anyway. (pause) Johnno wants us to try again. (pause) And we probably should. I just… I just can’t face the idea. I wanted *this* baby. Trying again, if we succeed, would be *another* baby. And that… Can’t face that. Not yet. Also… I can’t even imagine having sex right now, so how would it happen? (unhappy laugh) There was so much pain and blood and horror that I don’t know when I’ll feel up for anything else happening in that area. Area? (unhappy laugh) You know what I mean. (beat) What else? Work is fine – fun even. Turns out I’m quite good at figuring out schedules and doing inventory. Who’d have thought? But still looking for another job. So far no luck. Have some auditions lined up next week, two ads and a play. We shall see what happens… (sigh) July is pretty dead audition-wise… Let me know how everything is at your end. I would love to read your screenplay – anything for distraction at this point (smiles). Tell Bri congratulations on the job, that’s great! I love you. Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 28.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Shirin, how are you? I’m sorry I’ve been so bad at e-mailing. Things are moving so quickly in my life that I don’t know what you know and what you don’t. But I loved the message you and Emma left with Kat a few weeks ago. So I thought maybe we could do voicemails sometimes you and I. If you want… I’m a little stressed out. School is starting back up next week – it’s hard and fast-paced and exhilarating and I need to get going on writing my dissertation. Also… (deep breath) I’m worried about this whole becoming-a-parent thing. I want to be able to support Rachel and the baby, not just emotionally but also financially. (laughs) Essentially, I’m going to be a dad, and I have dad worries. Isn’t that weird? Or maybe not. But, you know, Rachel has a steady job so we should be fine… Regardless of whatever  I end up doing. Anyways. How are you? How’s Dave? And are things getting any more interesting at work? Big kiwi hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 28.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

SHIRIN

Hello Jess, good to hear from you. Yes, let’s do voice mails – maybe they’ll be easier to keep up with than e-mail. Won’t keep up to the same frequency as you and Kat, though. (smiles) I’m fine. I feel a little stuck, you know. I want to move forward in my career but I don’t get the opportunity. I didn’t study graphic design for three years to never get to do anything creatively mine, you know? I’ve talked to my manager about it and he’s understanding – or pretends to be – but ‘there is nothing else available at this time’. Ugh.  Frustrating. And I get good feedback on my work but I see other people move to more independent work more quickly and I don’t know why. (frustrated sigh) I am looking at other jobs but they all seem to be pretty similar to what I’m doing now. All right. Enough about work. (beat) Dave is fine. He keeps pestering me to be exclusive again, though. I don’t want to and he doesn’t seem to get it. Maybe time to break it off, but… I’m used to him, you know? (beat) Don’t worry too much about providing for your coming family. As you say, Rachel has a job, and I am sure the two of you can figure it out. Are you sure it’s not all mixed up with your own insecurities about your future career prospects? I mean, you went from acting – very low job security – to creative writing – same low job security. I know my family were trying to get me to choose something more traditional and less creative, they thought I’d have trouble getting a job in graphic design, but they’re fine about it now. Have to go – quiz night with the flatmates. Kiwi hugs from you so… Cockney hugs from me? (laughs) Bye.

(clicks)

Scene 28.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, thanks for the update. I’m glad work is fun and that you are not miserable all of the time. Maybe you need the distraction and to distance yourself from your thoughts a little? Sometimes the bad stuff is too heavy and you need a break. Also… maybe it’s your turn to think about therapy? Maybe just a couple of appointments to sort through these feelings? Think about it, all right? (beat) I’ll e-mail you my screenplay – what there is so far. Oh, just saying that makes me really nervous! No-one else has seen it yet. I was going to ask Bri to read it but she is so busy with work at the café and next week school starts for her, so I’ll wait until things settle down a little. Also she still has her old name in all the university documents, so she is going around to all her professors to ask them to please use the right name and pronouns. Must be exhausting – she is such a private person and this must be like… Like coming out to stranger after stranger after stranger… Ugh. I should make her some tea and cake for when she comes home. (smiles) Don’t worry, I won’t attempt to bake, I know my limits! Maia made some delicious chocolate cake yesterday. I was–

(quick footsteps, soft knock on door)

RACHEL

Jess?

JESS

Come in Rache!

RACHEL

(excited) Look!

JESS

(gets up, quick kiss, curious) What is that?

RACHEL

It’s the baby! The check-up today turned out to be the 12-week-scan, I must have gotten them mixed up.

JESS

(taken aback) Oh! Right. I would have- I’m so sorry I missed that.

RACHEL

Me too, love. My fault – I thought it was next week.

JESS

It’s all right. (looks at ultrasound picture again) So… Um. Not sure I understand this picture.

RACHEL

(laughs) I know! Completely confusing. You should have seen my face when the sonographer started to point out a foot here and an arm there and I just thought it was all a big blurry blob… But then it started to make more sense – see, the head is there, and there’s the leg, and the tummy…

JESS

Really? Wait… (handles picture) Oh wow. (near happy tears) That’s a baby. An actual baby.

RACHEL

Yes. (near happy tears) Our baby.

JESS

Oh Rachel. I am so happy.

RACHEL

So am I. And everything looked good, she said.

JESS

That is just wonderful. You are wonderful. (They kiss)

RACHEL

So what were you up to? Writing again?

JESS

(realizes) I was talking to Kat. (sits down by computer) Sorry Kat! Didn’t mean for you to hear that. Though you did say it was all right to let you know what’s up on this front. A very blurry picture. (smiles)

RACHEL

Sorry Kat! Didn’t mean to burst in. Again. I was just so excited.

JESS

I love you Kat, take care of yourself. More another day. Bye!

RACHEL

Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 28.7

OLIVIA

And I’m back. Cannot describe how odd it is to hear my parents discussing an ultrasound picture of… me? I think I’ve actually seen that picture – it was on the fridge when I was little. And I agree – from what I can remember it is very blurry and I basically look like a black-and-white tadpole with some wiggly bits that could be limbs if you squint a little… So… they’re both here. My parents. In Birmingham. They came to help me pack, and to take care of the stuff that I can’t bring to New Zealand. I’m off to meet them right after I finish this, actually. Haven’t seen them since Christmas, so…  This will be awkward. Anyway. I’m going to tell them about the podcast. I’ll let you know how it goes next week – almost two weeks away for me. (smiles) So next time I talk to you it’ll be from New Zealand! Please stay tuned for this week’s trailer.

(Trailer for Diary of a Space Archivist)

OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 29: JULY 17-23, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 29.1

OLIVIA

Kia ora and welcome to Y2K – now from Auckland, New Zealand! I’m Olivia, back under a blanket for this one, in my room in our new student flat – Tammi and I were really lucky – we have a shared flat just the two of us! It’s small but so NICE! Much nicer than my old place in Birmingham. Think it’s quite new which is probably why. We had our intro at uni this week, and I am excited! This year is gonna be so much fun. (beat) And… I promised to tell you how it all went with my parents… I finally told them about the podcast. After we’d packed up we went to dinner at the pub down the road and… I just blurted out ‘I’ve started a podcast’. Then of course there was much confusion as I had to explain what a podcast is – can’t believe they don’t know – lots of people of all ages listen to podcasts. I think they’re just oblivious. I mean my mama – Rachel – is a librarian, and she should know all about various forms of media, or you’d think so anyway. But podcasts seem to have flown completely under the radar for her. My mum – Jess – is a novelist these days so she has more of an excuse I suppose – a little isolated from the world… But… She should know about the world in order to write about it though, shouldn’t she? Anyway. Then I told them about the voice mail files, and… they both went completely silent. For a long time. It was a little scary. (beat) Right. I’m babbling on. I’ll play today’s voice mails before I tell you the rest, I think. (beat) Last week Kat felt like she was falling into a black hole, and Jess and Rachel looked at a blurry sonogram – of me! (smiles) Here we go – welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 29.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KIRSTEN

(very worried) Hej Katarina, det er mor. Jeg er lidt bekymret for dig – du kan vel give lyd fra dig? Send en sms, så ringer jeg op. Jeg- (stops herself) OK. Kram! Hej!

(clicks)

Scene 29.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess. I am SO TIRED. This past week has been even busier. (sighs) Good for not falling down the black hole but also means I have slept much less than I should – I am so busy during the day that all the bad thoughts creep up when I try to go to sleep and then I’m awake for *hours*. (sighs) Maybe you’re right. I should find a psychologist – psychiatrist? Therapist? One of those. It’s just so expensive, and even though I make a little more at the pub now money is still scarce. Or… can I get one on the NHS? Have to check. Anyway. I’m looking for another job. Remember I did that strange job in a call center where I interviewed people in Norway about their internet habits? Maybe something like that. Though preferably not in Norwegian! That was a little too wacky. I remember the supervisor listening in on one call, and then he was like ‘Your Norwegian is great’ but he was English, so what did he know? (laughs) A call center job might be good, though. As long as I don’t have to sell anything, hate that! So looking into those kinds of jobs… I also have some theatre auditions coming up – I was trying to find new audition monologues the other day, I’m tired of the ones we worked on in drama school, I want something new, you know? Not the same old classics that every actor uses. Something where I can really show emotion. I probably need to read more new plays, don’t I? Yeah… Will get on that. I do go to a fair bit of theatre with Johnno, but he tends to pick the plays, and his taste is a little… safer than mine. The other day we went to the opening of Hamlet at Lyttleton and it was… it was good. But I feel like I know Hamlet backwards and forwards and even if they do a fresh production it’s still the same story, the same text. (sighs) Also I-

(00s mobile phone signal)

KAT

It’s my mother (beat) I’d better get it, she’s been chasing me… (click) Hej mor!

KIRSTEN (very faint)

Hej min skat! Hvordan går det?

KAT

(sighs) OK. Du jag lämnar meddelande till Jess, kan vi prata sen?

KIRSTEN (very faint)

Sæt mig på højttaler, så jeg kan sige hej!

KAT

Um, OK? (beep)

KIRSTEN

Jessica, just wanted to say hello!

KAT

And now you’ve said it…

KIRSTEN

Jessica, I’m worried about Katarina.

KAT

(mildly annoyed) You can say that directly to me you know.

KIRSTEN

I know. But you haven’t been very easy to get hold of, and I wanted to say something to Jessica.

KAT

(frustrated) OK, fine. What?

KIRSTEN

(worried but trying not to show it) Jessica, Katarina won’t talk to me, but I really hope she’s talking to you. So I want to say thank you.  And if you ever want to get in touch with me you can e-mail me or find me as “Kirsten55” on this voice mail thing you are using.

KAT

(sighs) OK. Is that it?

KIRSTEN

Yes. Skal jeg ringe om en time?

KAT

OK.

KIRSTEN

Kram  min skat.

KAT

Kram. (beep) Oh, Jess. Don’t know what to say. She is so worried and just wants to take care of me but I feel like I did when I was a teenager, you know? Like everything she does and says is just wrong and gets under my skin. (frustrated sound) Please don’t contact her. Everything gets blown out of all dimension – proportion, I mean – when she hears about it. Can’t deal with that. Anyway. (beat) Oh, yes! I read your screenplay! Should have started with that, but, again, very tired. I love it. It is really beautiful and nothing like what you usually see produced. I want to watch this – and I want to be in it! (smiles) So when this is optioned for millions of dollars, make sure to say you already have an actress lined up for Karen, all right? (laughs) That would be… incredible. But back to earth… What else is up at your end? Uni starts up again soon, right? Let me know. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 29.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat. I get why your Mom is so worried. And I think you do too. So if you can, try to be a little patient with her, all right? She’s far away and just wants to make sure you’re happy. Kind of like me, really. (smiles) It’s a hard thing to know that you are unhappy and be on the other side of the world, you know? And you do know, ‘cause you’ve been worrying about me… (smiles) I’m feeling much better, though. School started this week and this semester is basically all about the dissertation. I thought I had to keep that completely separate from the screenplay, I thought they only accepted novels or short stories, but had a meeting with my supervisor today, and she says I can develop the screenplay as part of my dissertation, and write a reflective commentary alongside it. So that’s a relief! (beat) Bri also started school this week – sorry! Bri (pronounced Bree)! She changed the pronunciation, and I think it suits her so well! Though I admit I’ve been teasing her a little about Brie cheese – but we both love Brie cheese so I don’t think she minds too much. And she does make the most incredible cheese puffs, so it fits! Anyways, she says she’s been thinking about it for a while, and it seemed like a good idea to change it before she meets all these new people at university. So far she seems happy – her professors seem to have handled using the right name and pronouns pretty well and she’s already found some people to talk to. I’m glad she’s not in that weird limbo I was in my first few weeks here… guess Social Anthropology undergrad is a little less stressful than what I’m doing, which is great. Also, I have a surprise for you, check your e-mail! (smiles) I’ll say no more, but hope you’ll like it! (beat) Rachel is having a tough time of it, nausea and ligament aches and all sorts of weird symptoms. But her midwife says it’s all normal, so nothing to worry about I suppose. Just hard for her. But she’s so- she goes about her life and her work and still makes headspace to take care of me when I get worried. (deep breath) She’s wonderful. She really is. And already I can’t imagine my life without her…  (smiles) You know that feeling, my dear… How are you and Johnno doing these days? Are you talking about the hard stuff or is it too painful still? And if you don’t talk to each other, maybe you could both benefit from a therapist? Separate ones, I mean, though maybe couple’s therapy would be good too. I think they are available through the NHS… (realizes) yes – the one I talked to a few years ago was on the NHS, how else could I have afforded it? You’d better check, of course… Take care of yourself, my dear. And figure out a way to get more sleep, maybe ease up on the activities for a bit? Love you!  

(clicks)

Scene 29.5

OLIVIA

There! I’d been wondering when aunt Bri (pronounced Bree) changed the pronunciation of her name. (smiles) I had a hard time with who she was when she first turned up in the voice mails, the names sound so different, even though the spelling’s the same. I’m going to give her a call, actually, she lives right here in Auckland, and I know my mum’s been e-mailing asking her to keep an eye on me while I’m over here… Haven’t seen her for a few years, so looking forward to it. Right. I promised to tell you the rest of the story… So my parents and I were down the pub and I’d just explained about the voice mails. And for the first time of the whole visit, they looked at each other. Really looked. And… it’s hard to explain but it was like they were communicating without saying anything. Like all sorts of feelings flew across their faces, and they just sat there. I didn’t know what to say, so I just waited. And then mama sighed, and said… it was all right. And mum said yes, but she wished I’d asked them. And I was so relieved. (emotional pause) I- they’re separated. That’s what I found out at Christmas. (small sob) They said it was OK to tell you that. Mama said…  ‘If you’re telling them the beginning of our love story you may as well tell them the end’. (voice breaks) I hate that they are separated. They’ve always been so… so loving. And so kind to each other. And they’re still kind. Maybe it would be easier if they were yelling… I don’t know! (frustrated sigh) I feel like I’m little again and all I want I s for my parents to love each other and be together. Shit. And I get that it is their business. I do. Doesn’t stop it from hurting. ‘Cause it’s my business too. Also… doesn’t stop me from hoping they’ll work it out somehow. (forces herself to regain composure) Yeah. Sorry. Now you know. (sighs) As usual, we have a trailer for you this week. Here it is.

(Trailer for A Ninth World Journal)

 OLIVIA

If you knew either Kat or Jess or any of their friends twenty years ago, I would like to hear from you. Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod, that’s the number two. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find more info, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. The show is also on Apple Podcasts – what used to be iTunes – on Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you have a minute, it would mean so much if you would rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. It can help others find the show. And a lso, it makes me very happy! If you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days! Our fantastic music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 30: JULY 24-31, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

OLIVIA

(still shaken up) Olivia here, with a content warning. The voice mails this week are… shocking. So this week’s content warning is for retching, implied rape and descriptions of homophobia and emotional abuse. We have a resource page on the website, where we have tried to list as many hotlines, info-pages and support things we could find from different corners of the world – or at least the English-speaking ones. So if you feel you need any resources like that, go to y2Kpod.com[slash]resources and hopefully you will find what you need. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 30.1

OLIVIA

Hello dear listeners! Today’s been a glorious crisp winter day and we’ve had our first mini-field trip – it was brilliant! I’ve had some listener e-mails with questions about my nationality, and my accent, and how much of my life I have spent in New Zealand… And none of it’s a secret, I just… I just didn’t think it was all that… interesting. But all right (smiles), here we go. My parents and I moved to the UK when I was five. I have vague memories of living in Auckland, but most of my childhood was spent first in north London, and then in Brighton in the south of England. I got teased a lot at school because the kids thought I talked funny. Worked to get rid of the kiwi accent quickly after that! (beat) I visited New Zealand of course, growing up, but definitely not every year, maybe something like every third year or so? (takes a breath) Formally I’m a dual citizen of New Zealand and the United Kingdom. Born Kiwi, of course, like mama – Rachel. But my parents applied for dual citizenship for me when I was… ten or something? Same time as mama. They wanted to make sure I could study and work where I wanted. (pause so the following can be cut if Brexit somehow does not happen) Of course this was before Brexit – much less use for a UK passport around the EU now… (pause) Mum – Jess – already had dual citizenship from before, as her father was born in England. All right. Hope that answers some of your questions on that subject… (smiles)

I also got another listener question… About my biological father. You lot are curious, aren’t you? (smiles) Suppose it’s to be expected – I’ve put all this out there after all. And yes. My “bio-dad”. (deep breath) We never talked about him, growing up. I mean, I knew he existed, and I knew he was completely out of the picture, but… honestly I’ve found out more in these voice mails than I ever found out from my parents. I don’t think they tried to hide the information from me, they… From what I know now, (discovers this theory as she says it) I think they felt bad that they never managed to track him down. But, yeah. Part of this podcast project, and part of going through the voice mails, has been trying to find information about him. Mike. (yearning) I never knew his name before. I never asked. I’m sure they would have told me. I… would like to get in touch with him if I can. So if you know anything about him, e-mail me please? But, you know, don’t contact him for me or anything like that, most likely he knows nothing about me… Also, there must be masses of Mikes in New Zealand! Right. Time for some voice mails, don’t you think? Let’s see what they’re up to this week. Last week Jess and Bri – and me and Tammi! – started uni, and Kat’s mum was really worried about her. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 30.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! I have news! I’m moving in with Rachel! No surprise there I guess – how else are we going to raise a baby together? But it still makes me so happy! We have to get our own place – Rachel’s in a flatshare as well and that really is not going to work with a baby – we’d drive the flatmates up the wall! And we found a place in Remuera, we’re going to look at it tomorrow and – keep your fingers crossed! – I really hope we get it! I mean Rachel has a proper job and I’m at least a full-time student, so shouldn’t be impossible… It’s a one-bed but the baby’s not going to need their own room for a while, so should be fine. Anyways. Bri (Bree) is going to stay with Maia and Tia, and they’ll probably move their study to my room. Unless Bri (Bree) switches… Oh, they’ll work it out! Anyways – did you get my e-mail? Looking forward to hearing what you think… (smiles) I have to run – I’ll get back to you tomorrow – hopefully with good news on the flat! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 30.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess! I’m so excited about the flat – fingers firmly crossed over here! This will be your first flat that’s not a flatshare, right? I loved sharing with you and Shirin and Emma but there’s always that sense that only your room is properly *yours* in a flatshare, you know? That everything else is just… on loan, somehow? That’s one of the things I loved about moving in with Johnno, that the whole flat feels completely ours… So happy you’re going to have that too! And I did see your e-mail but haven’t had time to read it yet – thank you so much though! I am sure I will love it! This’ll be a short message too – off to work in a minute. Still enjoying it, but looking elsewhere. Not much luck so far, though… What else? Johnno’s birthday is coming up this week and I’m trying to figure out what to do – it’s “the big 3-0” so it needs to be good. But as you know I’m a *little* financially challenged. He’s of course planned the whole thing – we’re having a party at this fancy club with basically everyone he knows, and his band is playing. Should be fun.

(footsteps, front door unlocks and opens)

KAT

(continues) But still. What should I get him?

JOHNNO

(walks in, kisses KAT) Get who, sweetie?

KAT

(laughs) You weren’t supposed to hear that! You, of course!

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT again, seductively) Oh, you don’t have to get me anything but yourself, princess…

KAT

(stands up, nervous laugh) I have to get to work, sweetie.

JOHNNO

All right. (seductively) For now…

KAT

(to JESS) Talk to you later, Jess! Oceans!

JOHNNO

What *does* that mea-

(clicks)

Scene 30.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(upset) Oh Kat! That was awful. The flat was nice, but the landlord was… horrible. I am so *angry*! (beat) I am always so ridiculously *shocked* by homophobes. (frustrated sigh) I mean, I’ve met my share, but I think in drama school, and in our circle of friends in London, it was a pretty safe space, you know? Really, you were mostly the odd one out being all straight all the time (laughs). And I was so lucky coming here and getting to know Maia and Tia, and Rachel of course, and my fellow students of creative writing seem to be generally pretty open-minded, you know… So this has been a safe space as well. Thank God for that – it meant it was a safe space for Bri (Bree) too, and she needed it so badly… Anyways. I was not prepared for this jackass. He was fine at first, but as soon as he realized we were a couple he basically threw us out of there saying it wasn’t “for the likes of us”. Whatever the hell that means. We were both really upset – came home to ‘tea and sympathy’ with Maia just now, they are wonderful, as always. They’re putting the kettle on, I just wanted to let you know as soon as possible. I was-

(footsteps, soft knock on door)

RACHEL

(subdued) You all right, love?

JESS

 Come in, my love. Just telling Kat about that disgusting man.

RACHEL

Yes. Hello Kat. (sits down on bed with JESS, small sitting-down-grunt, pause) I don’t even know what to say.

(footsteps)

MAIA

I do. He’s a fucking asshole and I hope he falls into a ditch somewhere.

JESS

Maia!

MAIA

What? He is obviously a horrible human being.

RACHEL

Maia’s right, Jess. (beat) No sympathy for that man.

JESS

No. You’re right. I’m just… easily shocked, I guess. Don’t think I’ve heard you say an unkind word about anyone before, Maia.

MAIA

 Well… (sits down) This kind of thing brings out my claws and fangs. I do have them, you know.

JESS

Never doubted it (smiles).

RACHEL

You should see Maia when someone’s damaged a library book. They’re fierce!

MAIA

Not quite this fierce, though. (laughs) I just growl a little.

RACHEL

And they immediately decide to stop arguing and pay the fee.

MAIA

Well… I don’t like when people are disrespectful. Not to books, or to people.

JESS

You are wonderful, you know that?

RACHEL

You really are!

MAIA

Well, now you two are getting me all misty-eyed over here. (smiles) You’re both pretty great too, you know!

(during previous, front door being unlocked and opened, footsteps)

BRI

This a private love-fest or can I join?

JESS

(gets up) Bri (Bree)! (hugs BRI) So glad you’re here! Rachel and I had an awful day.

BRI

Sorry to hear that. What happened?

MAIA

They met this asshole landlord and-

(muffled kettle whistle from kitchen)

MAIA

Let’s move this to the kitchen. (footsteps)

RACHEL

Yes. (tries to get up) Ow! Jess? (JESS helps her up) Thanks, love.

JESS

(as they head out) You all right?

RACHEL

(smiles) It’s fine. (pants a little)

(footsteps)

BRI

(stops, calls into kitchen) Hey, sib, were you recording? Your computer’s on.

JESS

(muffled) Yeah, sorry, could you turn it off? And say bye to Kat for me?

BRI

(yells) OK. (footsteps, by computer) Hi Kat! (beat) And… bye Kat! Sorry about this. But I suppose you know why they’re so upset. Guess I’ll find out. (mutters) Now where do I… turn it off, and… Oh, OK, here-

(clicks)

Scene 30.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(muffled party ambience, muffled sound of gig starting during following)

KAT

(drunk and very upset) Jess. Oh Jess. I hope this works. I’m on my mobile leaving this message – got an e-mail from the online voicemail site giving a UK number to call and- (sob) I just hope it works. I really need to talk to you. I’m at the party – Johnno’s party – it’s fine. Lots of people. I only know maybe a quarter of them. Johnno’s band is going on stage now and everyone is so excited and… I don’t think he’ll notice I’m not there. I- (drink) so I made him a bracelet. Totally his style – leather and silver – and he liked it I think but- he has a different plan. We- I- shit. I haven’t been- I haven’t wanted sex since the miscarriage. At all. The idea just makes me want to throw up. Johnno’s tried to get me interested in – you know – the foreplay stuff or whatever, but… I just… Can’t. And I want to, not only ‘cause it used to be so good, but also, you know, how else am I supposed to get pregnant again? (half-laugh half-cry) And I still feel the attraction and everything, I just- it’s like I’m in a bubble and it doesn’t reach me properly, you know? Have you ever felt like that? Probably not, right? (drinks) Fuck. I feel so alone. (sobs) Anyway. Johnno’s booked us a suite tonight. For his birthday. And I know he expects sex. I mean, of course he does. It’s his thirtiest – thirtiesh – fuck! – his birthday and he’s booked a suite and I’m his girlfriend and the miscarriage was over a month ago and – (cries, then deep breath) I don’t know what to do. (cries) Suppose I’ll just have to get so drunk I pass out. (drinks, Danish) Lort. I don’t know what else to do… (small sob) At least I know how to do that. (drinks) Love you Jess. Sorry for being so drunk and miserable.

(clicks)

Scene 30.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(upset and intermittently crying) Kat! I’m so sorry! That’s horrible! Please don’t do anything you don’t want to do! I’m sure Johnno hasn’t understood how you feel about this, talk to him, right? Please! Oh God I am freaking out over here. And *don’t* get passing-out-drunk – that is  dangerous in so many ways. (deep breath) I know you don’t want me to but I am *this* close to contacting you mom. Get back to me, OK? Love you so much!

(clicks)

Scene 30.7

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

(very hungover, very tired, head is throbbing, almost whispering) Morning Jess. Or, afternoon I suppose. Don’t contact my mother. Please. I am… all right. Or… Once this headache is over, I will be. Sorry for making you so worried. Still in the suite, Johnno’s gone off to a birthday brunch with his friends, said I could stay a little longer. I- I don’t actually remember what happened last night. I just tried to get as drunk as I possibly could. Turns out I can get very drunk. (winces) Well I am Swedish after all, aren’t we supposed to be champions at drinking until we pass out? (drinks water) So… I don’t remember, but… Apparently we did have sex last night. So (deep breath) I guess that’s over with. I- (retches) Sorry! (retches) Have to run! (retches)

(clicks)

Scene 30.8

OLIVIA

(shocked, near whisper) Fuck. I- this is so dark. (beat) And I am *furious*. That is rape! Fucking rape. Yeah. No. Yeah. I suppose technically she could have appeared more lucid than she was and seemingly consented but… that is revolting. How could he not have understood the state she was in? I mean, most likely he did. Makes *me* want to vomit. (beat) Bloody hell, the content warning for this is going to *epic* (unhappy laugh) I think I’m going to get Tammi to listen to this whole thing before I decide what to say. So if you’re unhappy with the content warning, it’s Tammi’s fault (small laugh) No. Of course not, it won’t be. But please do take care of yourself. We have a resource page on the website, go to y2Kpod.com[slash]resources. Right. I recorded a new outro for this episode, it’s going to sound offensively cheerful after all this I’m afraid. Sorry about that. You know what’s next, right? Trailer time. Talk to you next week.

(Trailer for Relativity)

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 31: AUGUST 1-6, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 31.1

OLIVIA

Hello listeners! Tammi’s here with me today!

TAMMI

Hi Olivia! And hi, listeners, of course! (small laugh)

OLIVIA

I asked Tammi to support me today, I- I thought last week was quite tough.

TAMMI

Yeah. I listened too.

OLIVIA

Hard to know what to say, really.

TAMMI

Well. (beat) We’ve had some really mixed reactions from listeners.

OLIVIA

Yes. And thank you for reacting, and for staying with us on this journey, listeners. It can’t always be easy for you, either. But we really appreciate your feedback and support.

TAMMI

We do. Speaking of which, you have some news, right?

OLIVIA

Yes! Some of you may remember that I got a message from a listener in Wellington in one of our first episodes – Cassandra.

TAMMI

Yes – back in February. She thought she knew Jess, right?

OLIVIA

Right. Cassandra and I have e-mailed a bit after that, and she did know both of my parents, and Maia. She’s a librarian actually and worked at one of the Auckland libraries back in 2000. (excited and nervous) And… she thinks she might have a lead on finding (beat) Mike. Aaaah! So, tell the listeners what we’re doing next week, Tammi.

TAMMI

We’re going to be in Wellington and talk to Cassandra!

OLIVIA

We are! We were going anyway, as there’s a field trip starting from Wellington all of next week, so we are taking the train a few days early. Gives us a chance to explore Wellington, too! And Cassandra has agreed to talk to us ON the podcast, so you guys are going to get to hear what she has to say.

TAMMI

Yes! I just hope I can get the mics and everything to work.

OLIVIA

Thanks for all the help, Tammi. I couldn’t do it without you!

TAMMI

No problem. I am having fun. Well, most of the time. Last week’s voice mails were… no fun at all.

OLIVIA

No. But… Shall we?

TAMMI

All right.

OLIVIA

So… Last week Rachel and Jess were rejected by a homophobe landlord, and Kat got very drunk and… horrible things happened. (beat) Let’s hope things are a little better this week. You want to say it, Tammi?

TAMMI

(smiles) Of course. Welcome… to the year 2000.

Scene 31.2 

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! Are you all right? (deep breath) I am freaking out over here. Oh, and *don’t* read the audition monologue I sent! God. Didn’t think this would happen, was only trying to give you something really dramatic to work with. I’ll write you another, all right? Just throw it away, don’t read it, please! (breathes, mumbles) Fuck. I think… I think maybe you need to go away for a while. Maybe visit your mother again? Get some distance? And think? Or go stay with the flatmates for a few days? Something! I- this- (anguished) don’t let him do this to you. Please. Ugh. I have to go or I’ll be late for class. I love you. So much.

(clicks)

Scene 31.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

(tired) Don’t worry, Jess. All OK here. (lies to herself as well as to JESS) And… it wasn’t rape or anything. I was just drunk. Got the hangover from hell, though. (small joyless laugh) Never used to get that hung over. Is it an age thing? I’m only 23- well 24 soon. (beat) I did read your monologue, and it is great. Perfect for me. I love getting into all those intense emotions. (beat) Maybe you’re right that I do need a bit of a break. I’m… exhausted. It’s been- It’s a lot.   Anyway. Have to go to work. Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 31.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Mrs- Kirsten. Sorry! Still stuck on calling my friends’ parents Mr and Mrs… (smiles) I’m trying to be more Swedish! Danish? Anyways. It’s Jess. You said I could leave you a message, so here I am. (deep breath) I’m worried about Kat too. And things are… it’s not sounding like it’s getting better. And I suggested she go away for a bit, maybe visit you, or something else, but just to get some perspective, you know? And she seemed to think it was a good idea. So I thought maybe if you want you could talk to her about it? Thank you. So much. And I hope at some point I will be able to visit you again, and sit and talk to you in your beautiful garden. (sigh) Anyways… Kat and I usually say ‘oceans of hugs’ in the voice mails, I wanna send that to you too so – oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 31.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

CLAIRE

(ex-calling while drunk) Hey Jess. It’s Claire. Again. (drunken sigh) I heard all about your… ‘domestic bliss’ from Emma. A girlfriend and a baby, huh? Well good for you. (beat) Good. For. You. Not so good for me, though, right? (snort) Rose up and left me and you are on the other side of the fucking world… Did anyone tell you why she left? Well, did they? (beat) She found someone else. Some nasty piece of shit. Cheated on me. (American accent) Bee-atch. Some would say it (funny voice) ‘serves me right’… (feels guilty but doesn’t want to acknowledge it) Yeah… Said I was (different funny voice) ‘too controlling’. Yeah. Am I? (more serious) I mean, was I? Ugh. Why am I telling *you* all this? (drunken sigh) How are things in (fake NZ accent) Kiwi-land? They nice to you? (beat) Are you happy, Jess? Happier than- (pause) Course you are. O-K. Have a happy happy life, right? Cheers! (takes a swig from a beer bottle)

(clicks)

Scene 31.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Kat! Hope everything’s better. And yes I get worse hangovers these days too. Guess we’re not eighteen anymore (smiles)… Take care of *you*, all right? (small laugh) Pretty Woman references never really work do they? It’s that prostitution thing. (beat) Anyways. Oh! Guess who drunk-dialled me? Claire. It was… It was sad, really. And unsettling, but much less so than last time. I’ve moved on. Not completely, it still hurts, but it is healing. I think maybe she wanted to apologize but… couldn’t. She never was any good at that sort of thing. Maybe- (beat) Can’t believe I’m saying this. Maybe you should hang out with her sometime? If you want. She seems lonely. And unhappy. And you used to like each other. You could do something fun, cheer both of you up. Yeah. If you feel like it. (beat) You sure you’re all right, my dear? Still think you should consider going away somewhere for some perspective… Anyways. (beat) Rachel and I have a lead on a new apartment. It’s a one-bed in Mount Eden, and I’m not letting myself get too excited after last week’s horror story… But everyone can’t be an asshole, right? I actually made it clear in my latest e-mail that we are a couple, so if they are assholes we should find out without having to meet them, at least… Also I am slowly getting going on the theory/analysis part of my dissertation. Not even close to as much fun as the screenplay part but still interesting. I am sending you the latest screenplay version probably… tomorrow? Oh. Yeah. The audition monologue. I’m sorry. Or- I’m glad you liked it. But I think I’ll write you another one just in case. How about one where you are scared of growing old or something? If that happens to you, it will be years from now, so, yeah… (smiles) I should go. Bri (Bree) is making something deliciously cheesy for dinner, I can smell it from here (sniffs) Love you!

Scene 31.7

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess. I am sooo tired! I’ve been to one of those all-day auditions – I got called back twice which is why it took so long and then in the end I (bitterly) of course didn’t get it. ‘Cause there’s always someone else more right for the part, and they’re sorry, but thanks for taking the time, and bla-de-bla-de-bla… Won’t even tell you what it was for. All gone now… (sighs) Seems I am able to get some ads, but haven’t done any proper acting since… Shit. Since that stupid panto at Christmas. And panto only barely qualifies as acting… (sighs) Of course the ads are acting too, but… It’s different. Maybe I should just figure out something else to do? Like… Maybe… (pause) No. I’ve thought about this so many times and there is nothing else I want to do. (sighs) If only they would let me do it… Like everything else in my life I have no control over it… (beat) My mother called. She suggested I come visit her for my birthday – she’d buy the plane ticket – which is lovely but I don’t know… She also said she’d treat us to a birthday phone call which honestly is the biggest draw – to be able to actually TALK to you again, even for a short while would be… so amazing. (smiles) I should go, right? Next week Johnno and I are visiting both of his parents – sets of parents – in Devon, so I could probably use a rest after that. I’ll talk to him, see if he’s OK with me going ho- to Sweden for a few days. OK. Time to go sleep. Fingers crossed the new apartment works out – I am so sorry about that awful landlord. And how is Bri (Bree) settling in at uni? I love you. Oceans!

Scene 31.8

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

OLIVIA

Hello, we’re back.

TAMMI

We are. And that was… pretty much all right.

OLIVIA

Yeah. Or… no. Kat still doesn’t seem to be OK. At all.

TAMMI

You’re right. Well you know she’s OK in the now, at least.

OLIVIA

True. (smiles) Easy to forget it was so long ago.

TAMMI

Yes. Maybe you should ask her to be on the podcast sometime?

OLIVIA

Maybe. She might want to, I suppose. Though people may advise her against it. I will ask.

TAMMI

Good. Anything else?

OLIVIA

No, that’s all for today. Next week we’ll be recording in Wellington, so, um, see you there!

TAMMI

Hear you there? (BOTH laugh)

OLIVIA

Right. Bye!

TAMMI

Bye!

(Trailer for Witchever Path)

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 32: AUGUST 7-13, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 32.1

(new ambience – slight kitchen echo)

OLIVIA

Hello listeners, this is the Y2K podcast – from Wellington!

(CASSANDRA and TAMMI laugh)

OLIVIA

(continues) Today we are visiting one of our listeners – hello Cassandra!

CASSANDRA

(a little nervous but mostly excited) Hello! (smiles) Call me Cassie, please.

OLIVIA

Thanks! And thanks for inviting us! Tammi is here, of course, fiddling with tech stuff.

TAMMI

(a little distant) Hi!

OLIVIA

Everything OK?

TAMMI

(a little distant)) Hang on… (click, sound quality changes) Yes!

OLIVIA

Great. (beat) So, the reason we are here, in Cassie’s kitchen, is that you have some things to tell us, right?

CASSANDRA

Yes. I- (beat) Where do you want me to start?

OLIVIA

Um… why don’t you start with your first e-mail to me?

CASSANDRA

All right. So I started listening to the podcast – my friend got me into it actually – Hi Kate! – and I thought I recognized Jess’ voice. (mic bump) Wasn’t sure, but e-mailed you. And then, of course, Rachel and Maia turned up more in the voice mails and I used to know them both fairly well. You see, (mic bump) we worked in different libraries, but all the Auckland librarians would meet up every now and then, and of course we were always sending books between the libraries and- (mic bump)

TAMMI

(a little distant)) I’m sorry Cassie, you’re going to have to watch those hands!

CASSANDRA

(laughs) Sorry! 

OLIVIA

(smiles) I do that too! I talk with my hands!

CASSANDRA

(smiles) I’ll sit on them!

(TAMMI and OLIVIA laugh)

TAMMI

(a little distant) That’s all right. Just watch the mic.

CASSANDRA

All right!

OLIVIA

So… You are a librarian too.

CASSANDRA

Library assistant at that time, but yes. Got my degree now. 

OLIVIA

And you and I e-mailed back and forth for a bit. I asked if you knew anything about my bio-dad before I talked about it on the podcast.

CASSANDRA

Yes. I thought that was exciting, actually. To be ‘in the know’ before the other listeners (smiles). So, I was at the conference where I, um, gosh, um- (doesn’t know how to continue)

OLIVIA

Where I was conceived? (mini laugh) Now THAT is a weird thing to say. And think about… Go ahead, Cassie.

CASSANDRA

(smiles) Yeah. I was at the conference, it’s an enormous yearly thing, always heaps of people from all over. (mic bump) Sorry! Suppose I remember this one in particular ‘cause it was my first one ever. Rachel – your mum-

OLIVIA

Mama. Yes.

CASSANDRA

Of course! Rachel and some others were showing me the ropes, and I was basically following them around everywhere. On the first night, we got talking to some Aussies at the hotel bar-

OLIVIA

(surprised) Aussies? Right. (smiles) You know, maybe we should continue this after today’s voice mails – is that all right, Cassie?

CASSANDRA

‘Course.

OLIVIA

Thanks. So, let’s see what today’s voice mails bring. Last week Jess and Rachel had hopes for a new flat, and Kat was exhausted. Tammi, can we all listen?

TAMMI

(a little distant) Yup. All set.

OLIVIA

Great. So, welcome-

CASSANDRA

Oh, can I say it?

OLIVIA

(smiles) Absolutely!

CASSANDRA

(excited) Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 32.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat, how are things on your side of the world? We are in full winter here and it is fine – more or less like London winter… But this season switch thing is somehow feeling much more… unfair this time of year (laughs) Anyways. Hope the weather is good for your trip to Devon. It’s funny – Rachel and I are going to Rotorua this week-end to visit her family. Weird how things get all parallel sometimes. We were supposed to go ages ago, but, you know, stuff happened. I did meet her sister Nicola a few weeks ago when she was up here for work, and she was really nice, so I’m feeling a little less anxious about meeting everyone. Also Rachel has promised to stagger the meets and greets so I don’t have to see everyone all at once. I’m sure it will be fine. They seem like really kind and relaxed people. (deep breath) Only thing is we are borrowing a car and driving down and Rachel was supposed to drive but she is so nauseous and has such ligament pain that she asked me to do it. I said yes, of course, haven’t driven in forever but I usually don’t mind driving – and then today I realized I’d have to drive on the left side of the road and that freaks me out. Never drove in London – never came up – and here I haven’t had to either. So I have my license but… guess I haven’t driven a car for… more than five years. I- (breathes)

(slow footsteps during previous)

RACHEL

Jess?

JESS

(opens door, peck, helps Rachel sit down) Rache, you all right?

RACHEL

Yeah. Just the hips. (smiles) I sound like I’m 90!

JESS

(smiles) You’re not, just pregnant. You want anything?

RACHEL

I’m fine. (dangles car keys) Got the car keys from Annie, she says we can keep it ‘til Monday.

JESS

(uncertain) Yeah. Right.

RACHEL

What’s up, love?

JESS

(smiles, pause) Nothing. Oh, I’m recording for Kat, haven’t told her yet what we did yesterday.

RACHEL

Hello Kat! You want me to tell her?

JESS

(smiles) Please.

RACHEL

We signed the lease for our new apartment!

JESS

We did! And it is wonderful! 

RACHEL

It is pretty nice.

JESS

And we move in September, so time to start packing! I don’t have that much stuff, but you have a bit.

RACHEL

Yes. You might have to help me with the heavy stuff, love- 

JESS

Of course! And Bri (Bree) has offered to help too, and Maia, and Tia, and so many others. We’ll be fine.

RACHEL

We will. (yawns) Think I’ll have an early night my love – do you mind?

JESS

Of course not! Let me just finish this.

RACHEL

Perfect. I’ll go brush my teeth.

(JESS helps RACHEL up, quick kiss, RACHEL leaves)

JESS

(to KAT) Better wrap this up. (lowers voice) She has this incredible calming effect on me. Right before she walked in I was feeling all panicky about driving and then I look at her and know she’ll be with me and I am all OK again… I love that. I love her so much. Let me know how your week-end plans are shaping up. (laughs) At least I know you won’t be driving! Are you ever getting a driver’s license? (smiles) Anyways, take care my dear. Love you! Oceans!

(clicks) 

Scene 32.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, congratulations on the apartment! So glad it worked out. So you and Rachel are going to be busy bees these next few weeks. Wait! Bees? Ants? In Swedish it’s ‘diligent ants’… No. Bees is right. Sorry. Johnno and I are heading to Devon tomorrow, and no-one is driving, we are being civilized and taking the train (smiles). If I keep living in big cities I will probably never get a driver’s license. There’s no point. (beat) I’m… nervous about meeting Johnno’s parents. Well, mainly his mother. They don’t get on very well. We’re staying one night with each parent, which seems very fair and equal and all that but not so comfortable. Starting with his father, thankfully, who lives in Exeter. Then on to Exmouth, which is where Johnno grew up. He doesn’t have much of an accent, though, he says he tried to get rid of it once he moved to London. Pity really. I like the regional accents (laughs) Well you know that. Oh! I just realized I don’t know what to call his parents. Is it Mr and Mrs like you always call that generation or can I use their first names like I would in Sweden? I have to- 

(footsteps during previous)

JOHNNO

Kat?

KAT

Come in, Johnno!

(door opens)

JOHNNO

Do you know where- Oh! (a little annoyed) You’re recording?

KAT (same time as JOHNNO)

Yes! I wanted to ask you-

JOHNNO (same time as KAT)

Where is the whisk?

KAT

Um, think I put it in the third drawer.

JOHNNO

(behind KAT, kisses her neck) Now why would you do a silly thing like that? (kisses KAT) You know they go in the first drawer. (deeper kiss, with a peck as an endpoint) (seductive and threatening) Naughty girl.

KAT

(strained smile) Yeah… I was going to ask you something.

JOHNNO

Be quick about it sweetheart! Have to get back to my pancake batter.

KAT

(beat) Um, no, flew out of my head. You do your pancakes.

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT) Come help me in the kitchen, yeah?

KAT

OK. Be right out, sweetie. (JOHNNO leaves, footsteps ) Jess… I have no idea what I was saying. Hope your driving goes well, and that you have fun in Rotorua – did I say that right? Such a beautiful name for a place! Rachel’s family seem lovely. Wish me luck for Devon! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks) 

Scene 32.4 

OLIVIA

Hello again, we’re back. Still in Cassie’s kitchen in Wellington. (laughs) Cassie just waved – I’m  not sure the listeners are going to pick up on that!

(TAMMI laughs) 

CASSANDRA

(laughs) Right! Course not! 

OLIVIA

We were talking about- oh, sorry! Do you want to say anything about the voice mails we just heard, Cassie?

CASSANDRA

Um… Really excited I got to hear them before anyone else. (beat) That Johnno is a right asshole, though, isn’t he?

TAMMI

(a little distant) Oh yes.

OLIVIA

It’s insidious. A lot of what he does seems all right, and then you think… Wait! That wasn’t OK at all.

TAMMI

(a little distant) The rape was not so subtle, though.

OLIVIA

No. (disgusted sigh) It really wasn’t. But even that was only implied from Kat. So still a *little* ambiguous.

CASSANDRA

That was horrible. Seems she’s put it out of her mind afterwards, though.

OLIVIA

Yeah. (beat) Time to get back to your story, I think. Where were we? Oh yes! Hotel bar.

CASSANDRA

Yes. Right. So we were talking to some Aussies at the hotel bar on the first night. They were from a few different places – let’s see… Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide and some other cities I can’t remember. Not sure that they were all Aussies, come to think of it, maybe some of them were Kiwis… I talked mostly to two lovely women from Sydney, Charlene and… um… can’t think of her name…

OLIVIA

Right. And… Rachel?

CASSANDRA

Yes, of course! Rachel talked to this Mike – that must be your bio-dad! – and his friend… Henry maybe?

OLIVIA

And were they Aussie too?

CASSANDRA

I think so. As I said, the group was probably a little from all over, but I’m pretty sure Mike was Australian.

OLIVIA

But… from the voice mails it seems Jess at least thinks he’s from here, from New Zealand. Why would- Oh! (laughs) Mama never did have an ear for accents. She’s always confused when we’re watching movies and mum and I talk about where people’s accents are from and how they don’t match…

CASSANDRA

(small laugh) That makes sense. (beat) And I think maybe they didn’t do all that much talking in the end. Rachel and Mike left the bar together quite early on.

OLIVIA

Right. (smiles) Not sure I want to know much more about that bit… (clears throat) So, anything else you remember from the conference? 

CASSANDRA

Um… Not really. Don’t think I saw Mike after that first night, and Rachel was just her usual happy self.

OLIVIA

And you haven’t seen him at other conferences, later?

CASSANDRA

No. Not that I recall. And I’ve attended that same conference many times. Bit odd, really…

OLIVIA

(emotional but tries to hide it) What did… what did Mike look like?

CASSANDRA

(smiles) Oh, he was a looker! Brown hair, dimples, great smile! (beat, just realizes this) You look a little like him you know.

OLIVIA

(excited and a little embarassed) Oh. Wow. (beat) I only have one dimple, though.

CASSANDRA

Yeah. Maybe he did too? Not sure…

OLIVIA

(voice wavers a little) So, is there anything you can do to help me find him? 

CASSANDRA

I think so. I’ve e-mailed Charlene in Sydney – I’ve met her many times over the years – and she’s agreed to help out. She didn’t remember Mike, but she is sending out the word to her colleagues and she’s sure we’ll be able to track him down. 

OLIVIA

That is great, thank you so much!

CASSANDRA

Oh, no worries. Happy to help. I’ll let you know as soon as we find something.  

OLIVIA

Thank you. And thanks for letting us record in your kitchen!

CASSANDRA

My pleasure. So what are you getting up to in Wellington?

TAMMI

(a little distant) We’re going to explore the city, and then our field trip starts on Monday. We’re going to (slight hesitation) Wairau Bar, on the South Island.

CASSANDRA

Sounds great – have fun!

OLIVIA

We will! Guess we’re done for today, bye listeners!

CASSANDRA and TAMMI

Bye!

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 33: AUGUST 14-20, 2000

CONTENT WARNING

(new ambience – in caravan)

OLIVIA

(subdued) Hello! Olivia here. This week we have a content warning for domestic violence. We have a resource page on the website, where we have tried to list as many hotlines, info-pages and support things we could find. So if you feel you need any resources like that, please go to y2Kpod.com[slash]resources and hopefully you will find it there. Please take care of yourself, and if you need to, don’t be afraid to reach out and ask for help.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 33.1

(caravan ambience)

OLIVIA

Hello, welcome to the Y2K podcast – still not back in Auckland. The field trip is in full swing, and I’m under a blanket in a caravan near Cloudy Bay, on the South Island. Made Tammi and our new friends Kai and Holly go for a walk so I could record… This trip has been incredible. I have learned so much I can’t even begin to summarize it… And we’ve got to know our new classmates better too – kinda hard not to when you share a tiny caravan! We’re going back to Auckland tomorrow, and I’ll be sad to leave this beautiful place but also excited to get on with all the coursework. (laughs) Yes I am a nerd and I love learning. But you all knew that, right? Anyway. Last week, both Jess and Kat were heading to meet their partners’ parents, and Tammi and I met Cassandra and got some more info on my bio-dad. Mike. (hesitant but joyful) Cassie described him and apparently I look a little like him. Oh, listeners, I really would like to find him. (beat) We shall see what Cassie and her friend Charlene come up with. (smiles) But for now, let’s see what happens in today’s voice mails. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 33.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess. Just got back from Devon. It wasn’t as bad as I feared. Johnno’s father is really nice, if a little eccentric, and his husband was lovely. They were happy for me to call them by their first names, Richard and Sam. They live in a small house on the outskirts of Exeter and have the most amazing garden. A really English garden, like you see in pictures, but very small to match the house. We had dinner in the garden and it was beautiful. I wanted to take a picture to send to my mother, but I hadn’t brought my camera so I’ll just have to describe it to her. Johnno’s father – Richard – he is an artist in his spare time and the house is packed with his paintings from floor to ceiling, exploding with colours . Not so restful but interesting. Anyway. Then we went to Exmouth to see Johnno’s mother and her husband. It was… very tense. They live in one of those houses that is very narrow and is squeezed in with the houses next door – looks very British to me, but maybe they have them all over. We stayed in the attic room, which used to be Johnno’s growing up. I could see the sea from the skylight – so beautiful. Exmouth is a really pretty little town, and the beach is lovely. We didn’t go swimming, though, not enough time. We had dinner Saturday night, and then watched TV, and took a walk and had a pub lunch Sunday morning, and then we had to catch the train to go back, thankfully. It wasn’t that they were unfriendly really, it was just that there was SO MUCH TENSION and I could FEEL her vibrating with anger, or whatever other emotion was happening, but she said nothing. Or, said nothing about whatever she was feeling, I mean. She said plenty of things about the weather… Is this what they call the ‘stiff upper lip’? People always say Brits are so reserved but I’ve found most really warm and friendly so I have never really understood that… (laugh) Why am I asking you? You’re not British either! Anyway. It was not the easiest of week-ends but we made it through without any shouting which I think was a win. And I think Richard and Sam liked me, at least, so that’s a start… How was your ‘in-laws’ visit? And how was the drive? Not too stressful I hope. I’m heading to Sweden next week, so we can have our birthday phone call! Johnno wasn’t thrilled about me go ing away, so I’m only going for three days, but should still be good. And I’ll get to talk to you! Cannot wait! (beat) I should get going, it’s late here. Good night my dear! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 33.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat, so good to hear your week-end was better than expected! So was mine, actually! The driving was all right, once I got used to it, and Rachel of course knew the way perfectly so I didn’t have to navigate. Then we got there and I was so nervous! Also Rachel had warned me extensively about the smell – Rotorua smells weird because of geothermal something-or-other – but it was fine, and I got used to it very quickly. Anyways. I met her parents first, and we had dinner, and they really are wonderful. I completely see why Rachel is so kind and… so… secure I guess. She has this calm about her, like she just knows she is loved and everything will be all right, and I… part of that is probably her being her own wonderful self but also I see where it is coming from. Her parents are so loving and supportive and… warm. Everything mine are not. (near tears) And everything I want us to be to this kid. Who will have no grandparents from my side, of course, but Rachel’s family is so numerous that I hope they will make up for it… Unless Mike turns up. But doesn’t seem likely at this point – there is simply no trace of him, apparently. Which is both a relief and a worry. I want this child to have everything – including a connection with their biological father, if possible. But I also don’t want them to have a father who will not take the responsibility seriously, so… He’s an unknown factor, and you know how well I deal with the unknown… (laughs) Anyways. I am getting off topic. We had dinner with Rachel’s parents and were supposed to meet the rest of the family the next day, but her sister Nicola – who I’d met before –  accidentally on purpose dropped by to borrow some milk, and then her other sister Deborah came by to sort out details for an upcoming babysitting thing, and then all of a sudden almost every one of Rachel’s relatives were gathered in that small kitchen and I didn’t even have time to get anxious because they just appeared and they were interested in me but not in a demanding way, you know? They were just warm and friendly and… accepting, without making a fuss about it. Like of course Rachel is pregnant by some random person and is raising the kid with this new girlfriend from Canada who is a student and will probably leech off Rachel’s salary, that’s all cool. It was… incredible. (near tears) And it went on like that, I think in the end I’d met everyone – from kindly grandmother to wailing baby, and they were all wonderful. Well not the wailing baby, but the poor thing had colic, so it wasn’t their fault. Don’t think Rachel realizes how lucky she is. I tried to tell her, and of course she gets it intellectually, but not sure she-

(footsteps during previous)

BRI

(knocks on door) Jess?

JESS

Come in Bri (Bree)!

BRI

Tia’s going to- Hey, you all right?

JESS

I’m fine. (small sniff) Just telling Kat about Rachel’s family.

BRI

Right. Hi Kat! (beat, sits down) They do sound great.

JESS

They really are. (near tears) They want you to come too, next time. Nicola said you’re going to be like their sister, too, since you’ll all be the baby’s aunties, and they want to meet you.

BRI

(touched) That is nice. I would love to meet them.

JESS

And I’m just sitting here, thinking about our parents and… (small sob)

BRI

Hey, hey, it’s all right… Shhh… It’s all right.

JESS

(calmer) Yeah. I think it will be all right. We will make it all right.

BRI

Yes we will. With an army of aunties.

JESS

(laughs) Perfect! (smiles) Love you, sib.

BRI

(smiles) Love you.

JESS

(smiles) You came in here to ask something, I think?

BRI

Yeah. We’re going to play Carcassone, you want in?

JESS

Sure! Can I be blue?

BRI 

I’ll go check. (gets up) Bye Kat!

JESS

Thanks! (to KAT) I’m off to play board games, apparently. I’m glad you’re going to your mom’s. And not only ‘cause of the phone call, though – YAY! – but also because I think you do need a break, and I think you and your mom need some time to talk. I know you think she worries too much, but, you know, maybe she has reasons to be worried. All right?

BRI

(distant) We’re all set up, Jess! You’re green!

JESS

(to BRI) All right! Coming! (to KAT) Love you! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 33.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(on mobile phone, outside)

KAT

(joyfully screaming) JESS! I GOT A PART IN EASTENDERS!! They just called me and I had to let you know right away! It’s tiny, of course, but I AM SO EXCITED! (to someone else) Oh, shit! Sorry! (laughs, lower) Shit! Think I scared an old man walking by. It’s a one-off, but I have lines and everything! It is finally my turn! They chose ME! Not any of the others – ME! I feel like singing and dancing for joy! (hums Eastenders theme) I am going to be in Albert Square! (unlocks door, inside apartment building, walks up stairs during following) I will play an eastern European woman being mistreated by some thug – not incredibly inspiring, but some definite misery to work with… I am so excited! OK, I’m almost home, I’ll leave a longer message later. Love you! (click, but phone doesn’t hang up, KAT opens door) Johnno? 

JOHNNO

(yells, a little distant) In here, sweetie!

KAT

(footsteps, puts phone on table, excited) Guess what happened? 

JOHNNO

I-

KAT

(interrupts) Oh, you’ll never guess! I got a part in Eastenders!!

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT) That is wonderful sweetheart! (KAT laughs) Was it the Russian slag?

KAT

(a little taken aback but still so excited that it doesn’t quite register) She’s not a slag! She’s a woman from Eastern Europe somewhere who’s been treated horribly.

JOHNNO

(laughs) All right, whatever you say sweetheart. (kisses KAT) Well done.

KAT

Thanks sweetie. I can’t wait to film it! Anyway – I should start packing.

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT, pulls her down to sit) Do you really have to go?

KAT 

Well… I’ve got my ticket. And my mother is expecting me.

JOHNNO

(sulky) I know. I just hate when you’re away.

KAT

(smiles) I’ll only be gone three days.

JOHNNO

(dramatic and means it) It will feel like an eternity.

KAT

(teasing) You can handle it, you’re a big boy!

JOHNNO

(offended) I am not a boy!

KAT

(confused) Of course not, it’s just an expression.

JOHNNO

(annoyed) Sounds bloody patronizing. Like I’m a child.

KAT 

(taken aback) That’s not what I meant, I was just-

JOHNNO

(interrupts, getting angry) You never think, do you Kat? Could you think about someone else’s feelings for a change?

KAT

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to-

JOHNNO

(calmer, sighs) You never mean to, but you just don’t think about what you say. You have to be more considerate.

KAT

Right. I’m sorry. (thinks) But, you know, I- I do think about others. People always say I think about others too much.

JOHNNO

(angry again, quickly) Fuck, Kat, there you go again. It’s all about you, isn’t it?

KAT

Actually, I-

JOHNNO

(mocking, quickly) I – I – I – me – me – me – all you think about, isn’t it Kat?

KAT

I-

JOHNNO

(mocking laugh, quickly) You can’t stop can you? All about you?

KAT

(angry and confused and very near tears) No! What are you saying? This is all so-

JOHNNO

(spiteful, quickly) You going to cry now? To make it all about you again?

KAT

(very upset) I can’t talk to you when you’re like this! 

(KAT gets up, tries to leave, JOHNNO gets up too, grabs her)

JOHNNO

(furious, yelling, quickly) You are NOT leaving!

KAT

(shakes herself loose, yelling) Yes I am!

(JOHNNO throws KAT onto couch, KAT exclaims)

JOHNNO

(furious, yelling, quickly) NO!

(KAT gets up again to leave, JOHNNO slaps her, KAT exclaims in pain and falls back onto couch. Silence.)

KAT

(in shock) What… I… You- You hit me. 

(KAT stands up, grabs phone, runs to front door, feet in shoes, opens door, slams door shut, runs down stairs, panting, throws herself at door, outdoor ambience, runs wildly for a few moments, panting, slows, stops, out of breath, lets out the ugly crying, staggers over to low wall, sits)

KAT

(mutters to herself) Han får inte göra så mot mig. Får inte göra så mot mig. Får inte får inte får inte. Får inte. (ugly crying again)

(KAT grabs phone from pocket, presses button. Beep. Click.)

Scene 33.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(outdoor ambience) 

KAT

(crying) Jess? I don’t know what to do. Johnno and I argued again… Can’t let him do this to me… I’m outside the apartment, don’t want to go back in but… I don’t know where to go. (crying) Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck fuck . I have to call my mother. (sob) I love you.

(clicks)

Scene 33.6

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(upset) Kat! Got your e-mail. Thank you. So glad you are going to your mom’s a few days earlier. I just wish we could have whisked you away right there so you hadn’t had to go back to your apartment. (upset sigh) But I guess it’s good that you and Johnno talked. I… I am not sure he deserves that many more chances, you know? I- (stops herself) All right. I’ll do as you ask and keep our conversation to e-mail until we can talk on the phone. Say hi to your mom for me, right? I love you. So much. Oceans of hugs.

(clicks)

Scene 33.7

(caravan ambience)

OLIVIA

Right, I’m back. This was another tough week for Kat, obviously. If you are being hurt by your partner, please get help, call the police or talk to someone you trust. You could also check out our resource page, please go to y2kpod.com[slash]resources. So, listeners, there are no voice mails for next week, I suppose they were doing e-mails until that phone call. However, Tammi assures me there will still be an episode – I’m not quite sure how she’s managing that. I suppose I get a week off! There’s so much to do at uni, so I appreciate the time actually… I will talk to you again in two weeks.

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 34: INTERLUDE – AUGUST 27, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 34.1

(00s landline phone dial tone)

JESS

Hello?

KAT

Hi Jess!

JESS

Kat! Yay!

BOTH

(almost at same time)

Happy birthday! (both laugh)

JESS

How are you? What time is it for you?

KAT

It’s eight in the morning, I just got up! 

JESS 

Huh. It’s early evening here. I’m going out for dinner after this. 

KAT

Got my coffee! And a cheese sandwich – Swedish cheese! It’s delicious! (takes a bite) 

JESS

(laughs) Whatever makes you happy, my dear. Oh, so good to talk to you!

KAT

So good to talk to you too! (happy tears) I’ve missed you so much!

JESS

(happy tears) Oh God I’ve missed you too! 

(BOTH – happy tears laugh)

KAT (same time as JESS)

So tell me-

JESS (same time as KAT)

So how are-

(BOTH laugh again)

JESS

Guess we’re going to have to get used to this back-and-forth thing – we’ve been doing monologues for a while now.

KAT 

(smiles) This is so much better! So, tell me about your new apartment! (takes a sip of coffee)

JESS

Oh, it is really nice! It’s on the third floor, and pretty big windows, so lots of light. No elevator, though, so that’ll be a challenge when we have a stroller- Oh crap. I am so sorry Kat.

KAT

(sad smile) I know. It happened. We don’t have to talk about it.

JESS

(softly) Unless you want to?

KAT

No. I am… Feel like we have talked about it.

JESS

Me too. All right.

KAT

Tell me about Rachel – seems she’s having some aches or something?

JESS

Yeah, she has ligament pain, in her hips, her doctor says it’s normal – but then it seems they say that about almost everything.

KAT

Yes. (beat) So how are you in all of this?

JESS

I’m… good.

KAT

There’s a pause there.

JESS

Yeah. I AM good. Rachel is wonderful, we are happy together, and I am so excited about the apartment. And the baby. I guess I just… I’m stressed out. 

KAT

So what is stressing you out?

JESS

First of all this move – Rachel can’t do that much, of course, and everyone else has been wonderful helping out but I have to be the one coordinating everything and school is a lot and there is not a moment of my day I do not feel like I should be writing and I am worried about leaving Bri (Bree) and what if I never get a paying job and I could end up a crap parent and-

KAT

Hey! Breathe! Slow down. (beat) OK. You breathing?

JESS

Yeah. (breathes)

KAT

So the move is a lot now, but it will be all done in a few weeks, right?

JESS

Right. (breathes)

KAT

And is there any reason why Bri (Bree) would not be OK living in the flat with Maia and Tia?

JESS

(beat) No… not really. 

KAT

Bri (Bree) seems very capable of taking care of herself – also it’s not like you’re going to the moon – how far away will you be?

JESS

(smiles) About 10 minutes by bus. Or a 20-minute walk.

KAT

(laughs) You will still see her all the time. What else was on your worry-list?

JESS

(laughs) You are “A-MAZING’, you know that?

KAT

(smiles) Just trying to look after you. (beat) So next was the biggie, I think – not being like your parents.

JESS

(sighs) That’s right.

KAT

I am definitely no expert at this but… The fact that you *want* to be different than they were, that you want to create another kind of family, that has to count for something. Also, there are two of you. And from what you’ve told me of Rachel, she has family love and support to spare, so, you know, follow her lead if you feel lost, OK?

JESS

Oh, I have missed you!

KAT

Me too. Feels so good to talk.

JESS

Yes. Thank you. But enough about me. Tell me about you.

KAT

OK. (sighs) I’m at my mother’s. But you know that. (beat) Been doing a lot of walking these past few days. Going past my old school, playgrounds, the library… It’s like a trip into the past. (sips coffee)

JESS

Good trip?

KAT

Some of it. I was really happy in high school, but most of these places remind me of the time before that, which as you know was less fun.

JESS

I know. (carefully) And… you know I have to bring this up now, right?

KAT

I know.

JESS

(carefully) So what’s going on with you and Johnno?

KAT

(sighs) We… made up, I guess. He’s not happy with me being here, but I really needed some… distance.

JESS

Yeah. (gently) I don’t think you realized, but… Your last message didn’t end when you walked into your apartment. It continued recording. (KAT exclaims) All through… until you ran out again and started fiddling with your phone.

KAT

Oh… Fuck. (starts crying)

JESS

I’m so sorry! I didn’t know if I should write it in an e-mail or… Decided it would be better when… when we can talk about it. I am so sorry this happened Kat. Fuck. 

KAT

I… I couldn’t tell you… In a way I wasn’t even sure it really happened. (sob) Johnno was so… He was so sorry. And shocked, I think. 

JESS

(carefully) But it’s not just this, Kat. This would be bad all on it’s own, but there is so much else. Like that time on his birthday-

KAT

(dismissive) Oh, I was just drunk. We’re fine now. The sex I mean. (beat) And the other thing… I hit him too, remember?

JESS

What? When?

KAT 

I’m sure I told you about it. I slapped him in… April maybe. Right before I found out I was pregnant.

JESS

Oh. Yeah. But that was… That wasn’t the same thing.

KAT

Wasn’t it? 

JESS

No. It was- it was-

KAT 

I think in a way we’re even now. I hit him, he hit me. And we both agreed to not do it again.

JESS

Right. That’s good. But still, there is so much else-

KAT

We’re going to be fine. I love him. And he really is lovely, you know? Seems all you ever get to hear about is the bad stuff.

JESS

Yes, but… Remember New Year’s Eve? I said I’d heard Johnno’s not so nice to his girlfriends?

KAT

Sure. But that-

JESS

Wasn’t relevant then, but I’d heard that from Linda – you know, she’s really close with Johnno’s ex…

KAT

Louise.

JESS

Yes. Never met her, but Linda was talking about it maybe… a year ago? We were down the pub, and we were talking in general about relationships and Linda threw out a warning – she said Louise wasn’t herself when she was with Johnno. That he tried to control her.

KAT

Well he says she wasn’t so nice to him either. Anyway. Every relationship is different.

JESS

Of course. But-

KAT

(closes the conversation) I don’t think I can talk about this anymore. 

JESS

All right. I am here when you do.

KAT

Thank you. Always. (sighs) I should probably get off the phone. Don’t want to make too much of a dent in my mother’s phone bill.

JESS

Right. Just… Are you happy, Kat? 

KAT

I am… OK. Considering. But I think Johnno and I can be happy.

JESS

That’s all I ask. That you are happy. Or at least getting there.

KAT

I know. Are you? Happy I mean?

JESS

I am. So much is going on, but yes. I am happy.

KAT

I am so glad.

JESS

I love you.

KAT

Love you. So much. And – oceans of hugs! (smiles)

JESS

Yes! Oceans and oceans! 

KAT

OK, I’ll go hang out with my mother. She is making me a cake. (smiles) Happy birthday!

JESS

Happy birthday! Bri’s (Bree) organized a dinner with all of our friends. Really wish you were here! (smiles) Bye Kat.

KAT

Oh, me too! Bye.

(phone click)

Scene 34.2

(waves) (music)

KARIN

Hi! Karin Heimdahl here, creator of Y2K and also voice of Jess. Thank you so much for listening to this interlude episode, and to our show, it really means the world to us. If you want to support us you can tell your friends about the show, rate and review us on your podcatcher of choice or you can consider supporting us on Patreon. We offer you a free podcast every week and we are a completely indie production, with no network, sponsorship or ads. Listener support on Patreon means we can recoup our hosting costs and pay our fantastic actors. All of our Patreon supporters get to listen to episodes early and get behind-the-scenes peeks, and some tiers gain access to our exclusive Tammi’s Takeover episodes, behind-the-scenes content and more. You can support us from as little as 1 US dollar a month – please go to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod to learn more. You can also check out our website y2kpod.com for more information on the show. Our wonderful intro and outro music ‘Welcome to the year 2000’ is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. Y2K features these wonderful voice actors:

(music changes) 

KIRSTY

Kirsty Woolven as Olivia

JANIS

Janis Westin as Kat

KARIN

Karin Heimdahl as Jess

ADAM

Adam Blanford as Johnno

FELICITY

Felicity Boyd as Rachel

ANJALI

Anjali Kunapaneni as Shirin

SHEKENDRA

Shekendra Morgan as Maia

MADDY

Maddy Searle as Claire

ANNA

Anna Jartin as Tammi

LORCAN

Lorcan NicGiollaBhain as Bri (Bree)

CHARLOTTE

Charlotte Norup as Kirsten

NERYS

Nerys Howell as Emma

You can also look forward to some very exciting guest stars in the coming months, so look out for news on that! Next week Olivia will be back with a regular episode. Welcome back when we return to the year 2000!

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 35: AUGUST 28-31, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 35.1

OLIVIA

Hello listeners! I am back! And today I have an extra special treat for you. Kat – as you all know her – has agreed to record a conversation with me. She listens to the show now – my parents do too, which is… which is odd for me. But I like that they know what is going on. Mama actually said it was a good way to know what I am up to and where I am. (smiles) Anyway. Kat and I will be talking in about half an hour, which gives me – and you dear listeners – time to listen to this week’s voice mails. So last week there were no voice mails, apparently they talked on the phone instead, and the week before that they both reported back from better-than-expected week-ends with the in-laws, Kat got a small part in EastEnders and… Johnno hit her. Welcome… to the year 2000!

Scene 35.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hello Kat, it was wonderful talking to you yesterday. I’m so sorry if I pushed you too much on talking about Johnno. Of course you don’t have to talk about any of it if you don’t want to. I’m just… I worry. A lot. Which is what I do, of course. You know me. And thank you for parsing all my worries and making them seem manageable. That really is your super power. You are incredible. I am so lucky to have you in my life. I- (stops herself) So, last night Bri (Bree) had organized a dinner for me – I didn’t know where, so was a little nervous, but also excited ‘cause I trust Bri (Bree) and turns out it was at the café where she works – Gerrie’s! Was more like a party with food than a sit-down dinner which was perfect. Maia had decorated beautifully, and Bri (Bree) and Tia had made wonderful finger food – Brie puffs of course – but also focaccia and mini burgers and all sorts of deliciousness. And cupcakes! Bri (Bree) had made dozens of tiny adorable cupcakes instead of cake and it was gorgeous. And so many of the friends I have made were there, and Rachel was radiant and I forgot all about the stress of moving. It was glorious. (beat) Today I’m back in organizing mode, but I feel energized after talking to you and having such a wonderful night last night feeling so… at home. So, today I have-

(footsteps during previous)

MAIA

(yelling) Jess? You home?

JESS

(yelling) Come in Maia!

MAIA

(opens door) I need your help.

JESS

Sure. I’m recording for Kat, but I can be done in a minute.

MAIA

No, nothing practical for once. (smiles) I want to talk to you. (sits down) And Kat might as well hear it too – maybe she has some advice.

JESS

All right. I’m intrigued.

MAIA

I’m thinking of going back to school.

JESS

Right.

MAIA

It’s been *years* since I left university, but… I’ve been thinking.

JESS

What are you thinking of studying?

 MAIA

Not sure. My degree is in fine arts, of course, but I think I need something that will… lead to employment I guess. (small laugh) That sounds depressing. I love freelance work, and the freedom that comes with that but… It is also exhausting to constantly have to find new work.

JESS

I can understand that. What about your library job?

MAIA

I enjoy it, I love meeting new people and being around books, but I could never be a librarian.

JESS

Why not?

MAIA

They have to be good with computers. I can just about work the library computer for registering books and making library cards, but proper librarians have to be great at IT and I definitely am not.

JESS

 So what do you see yourself doing?

MAIA

Something to do with art, preferably, but that gives a bit more of a steady paycheck… Ugh. Feel like I am getting old and boring and betraying my dreams (sighs).

JESS

Really?

MAIA

Yeah. Or… maybe not. I’ll always make art, no matter what else I do. But the idea of being a full-time artist and being able to support myself through creating… Maybe it is time to realize that is not happening.

JESS

Maybe you’ve outgrown that dream?

MAIA

Huh. (slowly) Yeah. Maybe I have.

JESS

So what else can you do that is art-related…. Graphic design? Writing about art, um, journalism? Or… talking to people about art somehow…? Oh! You should go talk to one of the guidance counsellors at the university! Except it’s not called that… Hang on (digs among papers) here we go – it’s called course advice I think, if you go talk to someone at one of the student centers they should be able to help.

MAIA

Thanks. And… you’re a student… do you think I could do it? I feel *very* out of practice. (smiles)

JESS

Of course you could. You’ll get back to it again in no time. If that’s what you end up deciding, of course. Could be you figure something out that doesn’t mean going back to school.

MAIA

Could be. (smiles) Thanks. I knew you’d have some advice.

JESS

(smiles) Feels like I’ve barely said anything. But happy to help if I can.

MAIA

I’ll take you up on that. (gets up) Should go start dinner. Wanna help?

JESS

Sure! (smiles) As long as there are tasks befitting my skill level.

MAIA

(laughs) Will chopping veggies do?

JESS

(laughs) Perfect!

MAIA

(smiles) See you in the kitchen. (footsteps)

JESS

Be right there. (to KAT) So – I guess Maia would be grateful for any advice you may have, too. I had no idea they were thinking of going back to school, but it makes sense. Better go. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 35.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KIRSTEN

Hej min skat! Jeg håber at flyrejsen gik godt! Det var så godt at bruge tid sammen med dig. Du kan altid komme her, hvis det er du har brug for det. Det ved du. Mor betaler. Okay? Kram til dig lille skat!

(clicks)

Scene 35.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess. It’s fine. It was amazing talking to you. Always is. (smiles) Suppose I need to talk about some things in smaller doses… I’m back in London. I had some really good days with my mother – we talked quite a bit and I think she is less worried. And we went on so many walks – beautiful evening walks around Trollhättan – there is a calm and quiet in a smaller city that you never get in London. So it was restful. And now I am back. Time to get excited about my EastEnders part again – think I know the script backwards and forwards at this point! But can’t hurt to read it some more… Let’s see. Johnno is at work right now, but he has thrown together some sort of birthday bash for me tomorrow night. Should be fun. (sigh) Working tonight. But kind of looking forward to it too – getting back into my routine and my inventory lists… (laughs)  Never thought I’d say that! And… you will be a wonderful mother, you know. You are so loving and thoughtful. I know you are afraid you will fall into some of your parents’ patterns but you are *so* different from them. And Bri (Bree) is too. Are you sure you are related? (small laugh) Kidding! I know. I know. But you can find a different way of parenting, you know. And you will. (sighs) You can… borrow my mother, you know. If you want to hash out some parenting problems or whatever. Hash out? Is that right? Talk out? (small laugh) Hash in Swedish is pot… Anyway. I hope… (near tears) I hope I will someday get to have those conversations with her too, of course. But there’s enough of her to go around. If you want. (smiles)

(sound of front door opening)

KAT

(continues) Johnno’s home, better go! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 35.5

OLIVIA

Hello again, this is Olivia. It’s strange to hear Kat in 2000 when I am just about to talk to her in the now… But no crisis this week, thankfully. And… for the record. My parents have been brilliant. I couldn’t wish for any better. It’s just now they are… breaking up it’s … it’s hard for me. And it’s maybe harder *because* they’ve been so good, and loving, and stable. Suppose I am spoiled. (sigh) So many of my friends have separated or divorced parents and it’s seemed so… normal maybe? But now it is happening to me I feel like (near tears) all my foundations are crumbling… and… yeah. (pulls herself together) Time to make the call. Let’s see if I can get Skype to work… (clicks, distracted) Wish Tammi was here to help me, but she’s found some RPG folks here and they’re setting up a new campaign. (clicks) There, I think. (Skype call sound, click)

KAT

Hello?

OLIVIA

Aunt Ina (EE-na)!

KAT

Liv! I can hear you, but I can’t see you.

OLIVIA

Me neither, hang on. (clicks)

KAT

There you are! Now how… (clicks)

OLIVIA

Camera symbol?

KAT

(click) There!

OLIVIA

I can see you! Hello!

KAT

Hello lovely Liv! How are you?

OLIVIA

(smiles) I’m good. You?

KAT

(smiles) Very well.

OLIVIA

Thanks for agreeing to do this.

KAT

(laughs) Of course. Anything for you! Though everyone’s advised me against it, my agent, my lawyer… They say it will ‘damage my image’. (smiles) I really don’t care.

OLIVIA

You sure? I can cut this part and call you ‘Kat’ if you like.

KAT

I’m sure. Hey, I’m a 40-something actress, any press is good press.

OLIVIA

(laughs, then serious) You think there will be press?

KAT

Probably. “Podcast reveals: Ina Fischer abused by boyfriend” Completely disregarding the fact it was twenty years ago… (smiles) Should be good for your podcast, though.

OLIVIA

I… I never meant-

KAT

I know. I’ve listened to the whole thing. I understand, Liv. It’s OK.

OLIVIA

Thank you. So… maybe I should start by asking about your name.

KAT

(smiles) It’s actually related to what is happening in those voice mails you are playing. After the relationship with Johnno ended – strange to say his name now – haven’t thought about it, all of this for so long, Liv. Your podcast has brought it all back.

OLIVIA

I’m sorry.

KAT

Don’t be. It is so long ago now. Of course there is still pain there – trauma never really goes away. But like I told you when we first spoke about it – I really think this story needs to be told. Far too many enter into abusive relationships and don’t realize it until it’s too late. Anyway… Where was I?

OLIVIA

Your name.

KAT

Right, the name. You know my full name is Katarina, but I don’t think anyone but my mother and school teachers have ever used that. Growing up, I was always Ina or Kat or Katta with my friends. And then when I moved to London I thought I’d better pick one of them to avoid confusion, so I was Kat. And then – I was pretty broken after that relationship, and I felt like reinventing myself. Took some time before your mum got used to Ina, though!

OLIVIA

(smiles) I can imagine. It took me a while to figure out who you were.

KAT

(laughs) I heard! And I get that.

OLIVIA

So… there are many voice mails left, and the listeners and I don’t know what happened to you in the remainder of the year 2000.

KAT

Spoilers! But I already have spoiled something, right? That the relationship ends. Ended? I get confused on the tenses!

OLIVIA

Oh me too!

KAT

Anyway. You can cut that if you want.

OLIVIA

I’ll leave it in. Think it’s a relief to know that it does end. Not that we know when.

KAT

OK.  

OLIVIA

I suppose… I’ll just let you say whatever you want to say about what happened back then.

KAT

Think I’ve said quite a lot. So, no spoilers… Hm… When Johnno and I got together I thought I really had to give the relationship a chance, you know? I felt like I hadn’t given previous relationships the opportunity to develop, like I hadn’t been fully on board, and I felt it was time. Really bad timing, let me tell you! I was… almost 24, so a little older than you but not much. I dived in head first and I worked… (some emotion creeps in) I worked so hard at it. I worked so hard at everything and I didn’t see he wasn’t putting in the same work. And I didn’t see he was putting me down and cutting me off from my friends, from my mother. And the more… tangible forms of abuse… took me years to admit even to myself. Years and years of therapy. (small laugh) It’s like… I couldn’t admit what was going on, if I did I would have to face that I had to end it, and that was… too hard. So much got repressed, I’m not sure all of it has surfaced, even now. Which is why re-listening to it is probably good, even if it is painful.  

OLIVIA

All right.

KAT

But there is also so much light and joy on there! Like your mum, hearing the beginnings of our long-distance friendship… We’re still at it, as you know. (smiles) Friends across various oceans for over 20 years at this point. Though life and jobs and everything else means we’re not quite in touch weekly anymore. But she is so important to me. And so is your mama. And you. You know that, right?

OLIVIA

I know. But… now they are getting a (voice breaks) divorce…

KAT

I know. I am so sorry, Liv.

OLIVIA

Don’t you have to, I don’t know, pick a side?

KAT

I think in most separations, yes. But this one… (carefully) Your parents still have so much love for each other. And it’s sad they are separated, but… Not every great love story lasts forever. And just because it ends, doesn’t mean it wasn’t great.

OLIVIA

(unsure) I… hadn’t thought of it like that.

KAT

We all want that happy ending, right? Like in stories – or movies! (laughs) But the story goes on, and sometimes what used to make you happy doesn’t anymore. There doesn’t always have be villains and victims, sometimes it is simply… life. I admire both of your parents for recognizing that.

OLIVIA

I suppose… It just (voice breaks) hurts.

KAT

Oh dearest Liv. I am so sorry. Of course it hurts. No getting around that. Wish I had a magic wand to wave…

OLIVIA

(smiles through tears) Yeah – what kind of fairy godmother are you, anyway?

KAT

(laughs) The strictly non-religious kind! No magic here!

OLIVIA

But you are sort of my godmother, aren’t you?

KAT

Well. Sort of. More like an honorary aunt, really. Of course you have lots of wonderful actual aunts, too!

OLIVIA

(smiles) I do.

KAT

Have you seen any of them yet? I mean, you are in Auckland, right?

OLIVIA

Not yet. But I’m planning to.

KAT

Good. (mobile phone buzzing, KAT silences it) Sorry! I should go. Take care of yourself, Liv. Being 20 isn’t easy, but you seem much more level-headed than I was at your age.

OLIVIA

(smiles) Thanks. I think? Take care of you too! And belated happy birthday!

KAT

Thank you! And – oceans of hugs?

OLIVIA

(laughs) Oceans of hugs!

KAT

Love you, Liv!

OLVIA

Love you! Bye! (clicks) Right. That’s it for today, dear listeners. Talk to you again next week!

(Trailer for The One Stars)

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 36: SEPTEMBER 1-10, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 36.1

OLIVIA

Hello dear listeners, I’m Olivia, welcome to the Y2K podcast! This has certainly been a… WEEK. Suppose you’ve all seen at least some of the headlines… I think both Ina – Kat – and I completely underestimated how well-known she is and what a *thing* this would become. My phone normally never rings, but this week all sorts of press have been trying to get hold of me. Happily for me it’s always on silent. (smiles) For any press folks listening – I won’t talk to you about Ina Fischer. On that I refer you to the public statement she issued a few days ago. What I have to say will be heard on the podcast, and nowhere else. Please respect that. Thank you. (smiles) But also – welcome to all our new listeners, I hope you are enjoying the show, and that you will stay with me as we listen through the voice mails from the rest of the year 2000. Also – it is father’s day here in New Zealand this Sunday, and as you know I am looking for my bio-dad. So, listeners new and old, if any of you have information that could help me find him, please let me know, all right? Don’t talk to him about it for me though – I want to contact him myself. Thank you all, so much. Last week Maia was considering going back to university, Bri (Bree) threw Jess a birthday bash and Kat returned to London. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 36.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, (not very excited) I have a new job. I’ll be working in a call center selling tickets for concerts and football matches, things like that. I’ve given notice to Lee – he wasn’t too happy about it but I think he understands. I start training on the booking system next week, and then I’ll work two jobs for a few weeks – three next week actually, I have the EastEnders filming on Thursday. I have read that script so many times it is now falling to pieces… Can’t risk not knowing my lines! Anyway, it should all be OK – none of them are full time. The pay is a little less than I got as manager, but the hours are better – no more late nights. Also it’s in Leicester Square, so I’ll be downtown every day, which is cool. Most call centers I applied to were in zone 3 or 4 – or even further out. So that should be good. (sighs) I’ll miss the pub, though, and Lee and the others. And my lists! (laughs) But hopefully Johnno will be happier, and no evening shifts means we get more time together. I-

JOHNNO

(excited, yelling) Kat!

KAT

(yells) Yes?

JOHNNO

(opens door) There you are! We’re going to Berlin!

KAT

(stands up, surprised, smiles) We are? When?

JOHNNO

(kisses KAT) This week-end! 

KAT

Wow. (happy) That’s great. I’ve never been to Berlin.

JOHNNO

Really? We need to celebrate your new job! (pulls KAT close, deep kiss, seductively) I booked a great room… I want to see you (whispers unintelligibly in KAT’s ear, about 10 words).

KAT

(turned on, giggles) We’ll see about that… Oh, but we’ll be back for Monday morning, won’t we?

JOHNNO

Sunday night. Won’t let you miss your first day! And Í can’t wait to show you Tresor!

KAT

(laughs) I have no idea what that is, but, absolutely. Let’s have fun!

JOHNNO

(laughs) Only *the* techno club in Berlin. Also a record label. I have their latest on vinyl. I’ll go dig it out for you, sweetie. (kisses KAT, footsteps)

KAT

(small laugh) Techno? OK… (to JESS) So we’re going to Berlin. Wow. (slightly surprised) I’m glad. I need some fun. Also I think it’ll be good to keep busy this week-end so I don’t get too nervous about the EastEnders-

JOHNNO

(techno beat starts, yells) Kat, come listen!

KAT

(yells) Coming, sweetie! (to JESS) Better go. Oceans!

(clicks) 

Scene 36.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

EMMA

(ashamed and stressed) Hello Kat. It’s Emma. I am so very sorry! (mutters) Blydi twpsen! Beth yffach o’n i’n meddwl. I know I had no right. I didn’t mean to. I was curious. You don’t talk much about what is going on with you and Johnno, and I know it’s not my business, but things seem… things don’t seem right. And I really care about you and I was just fluttering about the world wide web typing in my friends’ names in search engines and happened across your LiveJournal and… I’m so sorry. I was spying. Yes it’s public but I get that this was somewhere for you to vent and be anonymous and I want you to have that. I won’t look again, I promise! I’m so sorry! 

clicks) 

Scene 36.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

(low voice) Kat! I am dead on my feet. Holy crap. Sooo tired. The move went pretty well. Though at the very end Rachel remembered she had some stuff in the basement of her flat that she’d forgotten about, and I almost had a panic attack. (deep breath) It was only a few boxes and two chairs, so it was fine, but just that feeling of ‘we´re almost done’ and then there is more was pretty hard to deal with in that moment. Anyways. I think we are all moved in. Boxes everywhere. We got the basics set up. Bed, TV, couch. And computer, of course! I’m in the living room, Rachel’s asleep in the bedroom. Poor thing! I think not being able to help out was even more draining for her than if she’d been able to lift boxes… But we had lots of help, and a traditional pizza party at the end of it… Bought pizza, but still good. And now they’ve all gone home, and this is home for us now… (stretches, yawns) It’ll be good. Looks a mess now, of course, but it’s a nice place. Have to go get curtains tomorrow, the bedroom is flooded with light in the mornings, so will be very hard to sleep in… I should get up early and get some writing done anyways. So, in order to do that I should go to bed. (yawns) Congrats on the new job! Seems all right – though Johnno seems much more excited about it than you are. Maybe it will be fun once you get going. And have a great time in Berlin – I haven’t been either. Never pictured you in a techno club, but I guess there’s a first time for everything (laughs, then yawns). Have a wonderful time! Love you! (yawns, cut off)

clicks) 

Scene 36.5

KAT

Hey Emma. It’s Kat. (smiles) It’s all right. I get it. (beat) No worries. Maybe… maybe we should go for coffee some day? I’d like to see you. Text me, OK? Big hugs!

clicks) 

Scene 36.6

OLIVIA

Right, Olivia here again. So, no big crisis in the voice mails this week, that’s a relief! And even Johnno was rather nice – I suppose he was happy he’d got Kat to switch jobs. Also… I never knew mama had such a tough pregnancy. You see pregnant women running around and doing everything other people do, I suppose I never thought it could be limiting like that. Probably different for everyone… And “LiveJournal” (smiles) – I googled it and it seems it still exists, but I never knew anyone who was using it. Seems to be most popular in Russia these days. Right. Time to wrap this up. Bye for now!

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

(OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 37: SEPTEMBER 11-17, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 37.1

OLIVIA

Hello dear listeners, Olivia here. I have been so focused on coursework that I hadn’t noticed – but spring is here! It is beautiful – the cherry trees are almost in bloom, and it *smells* like spring! Makes me want to run outdoors and never go back inside! And for now I don’t have to – we have mid-semester break! Tammi and I and some uni friends are going hiking in the Waitakere Ranges – and I cannot wait! So – for any press folks wanting to talk about Ina – there is even less point of you calling now, as my phone will probably be out of range. OK ? (beat) Last week Jess and Rachel moved to their new flat, and Kat got a new job and was heading for Berlin with Johnno. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 37.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat! Sorry about the lack of communication last week – I was exhausted from the move and after that so busy with… everything. But we do have something resembling a home now, and both Bri (Bree) and I have a week off from uni, so she’s offered to help us fix the last… (laughs) 536 things. There is no IKEA in New Zealand, sadly, could have used some cheap and cheerful stuff, but we are making do pretty well. Need to start getting some proper baby stuff soon, too. Try to get most of that used, I think. (touched) Thank you so much for offering to ‘lend me’ your mom. You… Thank you. You made me feel better about this whole parenting thing. Escaping the ‘sins of the father’ and all that crap. So… (carefully) Seems like you’re trying to get pregnant again maybe? I… if that’s what you want I really hope it works… but also… I worry. You know me.  I worry this is not the best time in your relationship, but then – oh who the hell am I to talk about timing. Maybe timing is just crap. Things can work out or not work out regardless of timing. I only… As always. I want to make everything easy and fun for you, and life keeps insisting on sabotaging this plan (small laugh). Hope Berlin was good, anyways, and that the new job and the old job and your very exciting TV shoot all go well. Lots going on right now for you! Lots going on here as well really – moving and writing and also – Rachel and I are off to the 20-week-scan on Thursday – I am not missing this one! Though according to Rachel it’s pretty hard to understand what is going on (smiles). I don’t care, I just want to be there. And – hopefully – hear that everything is all right. This is the half-way point, so – Aaahh! – counting down from here… Still can’t quite believe it. (beat) Love you so much, my dear. Oceans of hugs!

clicks)

Scene 37.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hey Jess, just completed my second day of ticketing system training. It’s going well, I think. I’m sure the work will be OK. We got home from Berlin very late Sunday night, the flight was delayed, so haven’t quite caught up on sleep yet, but it’s all been good. Even the techno club! Not generally my thing, but I got dancing and since there wasn’t a clear break between the tracks I kind of zoned out and kept dancing much longer than I usually do. It was restful, somehow. (beat) And yes… we are trying for a baby again. Still hard to consider the idea it might all go to hell again, but… I can’t imagine *not* trying either. So next week sometime I will either get my period, or… not. (smiles) Never kept track of my period in my life – you know how I am always surprised yet another month has passed and I have to go buy new tampons! – but I figured I had better get started. So, little red circles in my calendar from now on… I think you are right about timing. There is never going to be a perfect time. So full steam ahead – Steam? Yeah, steam! –  and hopefully I’ll be pregnant again soon. And maybe we can still have babies born in the same year – Rachel’s due date is in January, right? Oh, I just want to put all the horror behind me and get everything back on track. So… fingers crossed, please… Speaking of fingers crossed – I am so excited for EastEnders on Thursday! I will let you know how it goes – can’t believe I’ll be there, on that set! I’ll have to take a train super early – it’s *not* in fact in the east end, it’s at the BBC studios north of London. All fake, I am sure… Wonder if the bricks are real or plastic? If I get a chance I’ll go squeeze one (laughs). I feel like this is it – I am finally on the right track to doing what I want. I can’t wait. This could open some doors, Jess. Some real actual doors into acting work. Could of course also go completely unnoticed, I know that. But still. Could lead to more exciting things. I feel like the door I’ve been banging so desperately on is finally opening, even if it’s just a crack. (laughs) Mixed door metaphors today! Have fun fixing up your place – and send me pictures once you’re done, all right? Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 37.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

SHIRIN

(very excited) Jess! It’s Shirin – I have news! Remember that competition I entered? Where the prize was an internship in New York? Well… I GOT IT! I’d almost forgotten about it to be honest. But I got a letter saying they (paper rustling) thought my work “showed a fresh and invigorating design talent”! (laughs) That sounds a little pretentious, but I don’t care. I’m going to New York! I leave in a month, and then it’s a six-month internship (paper rustling) “with the opportunity for extension and advancement within the company” which is exciting. The pay is minimal, but part of the prize is paid housing, so that is all right. Will probably be a tiny room somewhere but I don’t mind. As long as there are no cockroaches (shudders) you do hear stories… No, I’m sure it’s  fine. So… any tips for moving halfway across the world would be greatly appreciated (smiles). Hope all is well with you. Yankee hugs today! (laughs) Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 37.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Shirin! Jess here – congratulations! That is so wonderful! I am so excited for you! I am sure you will have a wonderful time, and learn so much! So thrilled things are happening for you career-wise! Yay!

Advice… let’s see… Don’t fill up your suitcase with towels and bed linen like I did, one of each is fine and you can get the rest once you get there. What else… Music! Bring your discman and a bunch of CDs – maybe burn some CDs with compilations of your favourites? Those first few weeks were very, very lonely for me, and music definitely helped… Hoping you won’t feel as lonely, of course, but can’t hurt to be prepared. Don’t bring too many books – they’ll weigh down your suitcase and you can always go to a used book store and get a stack of novels. Also – I arrived in Auckland without any good light summer clothes so I spent my first few days sweating a *lot* before I caved and bought some tank tops. You won’t go from winter to summer like I did, but make sure you have lots of layers for any temperature – you don’t know if your housing will be air conditioned to freezing point or hot and stuffy. Think that’s about it – I am so happy for you! So much happiness today – went with Rachel to the halfway scan for the baby and everything looks great. It was near-impossible to make out the baby on the screen, though, but once I did, I realized the baby was sitting up waving their hands about – it was adorable. And a little freaky! But mostly cute. Anyways. Congratulations again – you deserve this! Canuck hugs I guess! (laughs) Bye!

clicks)

Scene 37.6

KAT

Hi Jess, it is very, very late and I am home after a looong day at the EastEnders studio. And I’m not done – they moved some scenes around due to weather, so I am going back tomorrow. Should be good but right now I am too exhausted to think about it. (smiles) It was such a rush though – my character is one of two women in a human trafficking storyline, and I get to be completely broken and miserable and I love portraying such powerful emotions. I *think* I did OK. I remembered all my lines and all my cues, so at least didn’t make a fool of myself. (smiles) It was such a friendly set – everyone I met said hello, even the regulars. Oh, I hope I did well! We’ll see in… six weeks I think. But you won’t be able to see it in New Zealand, right? I’ll have to tape it and send it to you! (yawns) Time for bed – tomorrow is outdoor scenes. Wish me luck! Love you!

clicks)

Scene 37.7

OLIVIA

Hello again – I’m back. I wonder if I could find that old EastEnders episode on YouTube? Would be fun to see her first TV acting gig. Kat seems happier here, but also there seems to be a lot she is trying to ignore. And my parents moved in together… (sad smile) I don’t remember this flat – we must have moved again at least once before leaving Auckland. I remember one flat, I know it was in Mount Albert… Hm… I wonder if I should go have a look around the area, and see if I recognize anything. Have definitely not been there since I was little, so it will probably look really different. Bit of a pilgrimage… Or something (sighs). But first, hiking adventures await! Talk to you next week!

(Trailer for Dice Shame)

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 38: SEPTEMBER 18-24, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 38.1

OLIVIA

Hello! Olivia here, relaxed, happy and filled with so much springtime joy and incredible nature and fresh air I can hardly contain it! We were very lucky and it didn’t rain once, though we did three days of hikes. (beat) I love living here. I know I am both Kiwi and British, and my mum’s Canadian, of course, but I’ve always felt… English I suppose… and yet here, now, I am starting to feel Kiwi too in a way I don’t remember feeling before. Although I don’t sound Kiwi, though, not sure I could! I was asking Kai the other day about a good place to get new headphones, and they said what I thought sounded like Dixmouth (-mouth pronounced like in Plymouth), but I couldn’t find it when I googled it. Turns out it’s Dick Smith’s (laughs) I love that! Need to calibrate my ears to the Kiwi accent, I think… Time for some voice mails perhaps? Last week Kat filmed her TV role, Shirin got an internship in New York and Jess and Rachel settled in at the new flat. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 38.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(outdoor city ambience)

KAT

Hey Jess. On the bus, hope you can hear me OK. (sighs) Today is not great. Got my period this morning. It’s just a regular period among dozens – hundreds! – I’ll probably have in my life but… fuck. (near tears) I felt like it was time, you know? I know it is nothing to worry about but… I wasn’t prepared for how hard this would hit. (almost sob) It’s like a loss… even though there was never anything there to lose. And it’s… (voice breaks) it feels like I am miscarrying all over again… I know that’s not it, but… Yeah. (deep breath) It’s fine. We’ll just… try again. And I’ll feel better tomorrow. But today… I am mourning the loss of a… dream, I suppose. (sighs) A *lot* going on, as usual… I went back for my second day filming EastEnders on Friday, it was exciting and exhilarating and all went well, but… I completely forgot that I was due for a shift at the pub at lunchtime. Completely flew out of my head. So once I was done filming I had about twenty missed calls from Lee. It was awful, I never miss things like that. But I did. (sighs) Oh maybe I should get a psych-, a therapist. You *can* get them on the NHS. Talked to some people at work about it and they said the waiting lists are really long – can take months apparently. But maybe worth getting the process started, anyway… Tomorrow I work my last shift at the pub. I’ll be sad to leave, it’s been pretty good. But the new job will be good too. (smiles) “Welcome to Ticketmaster, my name is Kat, how can I help?” – don’t I sound professional? Working on my voiceover skills! Much much better than speaking Norwegian, don’t you agree? (smiles, then sighs) I always feel gloomy around my period so it’s never the best time to get bad news – and now the period *is* the bad news… Ugh. Oh well. There’s always next month. And then the month after that, and the next, and the next… Better get used to it I suppose. I’m meeting Emma for coffee now, hopefully she can cheer me up a little. Take care my dear – I miss you! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 38.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

BRI

Hi sib. It’s Bri (Bree). Probably the last person you expect to hear from on here. It’s late, you’re probably asleep. Know you check these voice mails first thing, so… Here I am. Talking to you from last night. (smiles) This isn’t urgent, exactly. I just don’t want to forget to talk to you about it. I know you worry living in different flats will be bad for us. (smiles) We will be fine. Five years on different continents didn’t break our connection, I think we can handle separate apartments in the same city. (smiles) Think we can handle anything. (beat) I wanted to talk to you about… I’ve been writing songs. Gerrie has a guitar in the café, and I’ve tuned it and started playing when the café is empty. Gerrie happened upon me singing today, and they want me to sing at the open mic next week. I… would love to. But also I worry that it will… attract unwanted attention. (smiles) I am not like the other girls, as you know, and sometimes it is best to just stay under the radar. Talk about it tomorrow? (smiles) Today, for you. Love you sib.

(clicks)

Scene 38.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hi Kat. I’m so sorry. I know you had hopes for this month. I’ve never thought of it like that – but of course getting bad news while hormonal and bloaty is always bad, so, yeah. That really sucks. And please do get on the waiting list for a therapist. Can’t hurt, right? I am still seeing Antonio, but we are spacing out the sessions to monthly, and he says we should probably phase it out so we’re finished by the end of the year. Feels OK. (stretches and yawns) It’s late – Rachel’s asleep, Bri (Bree) just left, we’ve had a really   long talk. Turns out she’s been writing songs – I had no idea. She’s always been musical, of course, but it’s the first I’ve heard of her writing songs. Rachel and I got to hear two of them, and I am simply floored. So powerful, so beautiful. I know Bri (Bree) is my sib and I am probably biased, but still. She is incredible. She is concerned about performing in public, though. Apparently she tried it in Edmonton a few times, and she got a little more attention than she wanted from revolting men with wandering hands, one of whom turned into some kind of stalker for a while. So, pretty damned grim. We talked for a long time. And in the end she decided to try it anyway. Because she really wants to. So she will be performing at the café’s open mic night next week. The crowd at Gerrie’s is… it’s not stated anywhere, but let’s just say there aren’t many straight white men there, generally. So I am hoping it will be a supportive place for Bri (Bree). And I will be there with a barge pole, so if anyone tries anything funny… Yeah. Nothing could stop me from being there. I am so proud of her, my heart is bursting at the seams. I-

(sound of bedroom door opening, bare feet on wood, RACHEL moans and grunts a little from hip pain)

JESS

Rachel! Did I wake you? I’m so sorry!

RACHEL

(very sleepy) No, love. Just need to pee. (pained grunt)

JESS

(stands up) Let me help.

RACHEL

(leans on JESS, footsteps from both) (sleepy) Thanks. Ow. I’ll be right. (smiles) Just this kid sitting on my bladder.

JESS

Yeah. We’ll tell them off for that later.

RACHEL

(sleepy laugh) We will.

JESS

I’ll wait here.

(door opening, RACHEL goes in, door closing, sounds of peeing, flushing, washing hands, JESS hums ‘Scarborough Fair’, door opens)

JESS

Here. (RACHEL leans on JESS, they start walking back. Small pained exertions from RACHEL.) You all right love?

RACHEL

(sleepy) Yes. Better now. (they move into bedroom, RACHEL gets back into bed, voices are distant) Come to bed love, it’s late.

JESS

(kisses RACHEL) Hm… (smiles) Better not right now. Not sure I’d want you to go back to sleep.

RACHEL

(sleepy laugh) Can you hold that thought ‘til I’m much more awake please?

JESS

(small laugh) I will. (kisses RACHEL) Sleep well my love.

RACHEL

(very sleepy) I love you.

JESS

Love you. (footsteps, door closes, footsteps, JESS hums again) Oh! (to desk) I’m back, Kat. Time to wrap it up, I guess. Rachel’s… you heard. Walking is painful for her. She has this elastic belt-thing that helps a bit, but apart from that, not much can be done, apparently. All frustratingly normal… Oh, that’s right, I never told you about the scan. Everything is good, all measurements and tests and everything looks exactly as they should. So the baby is perfect, it’s just hard on Rachel. (sighs) Have to remind both of us that it’s temporary. She’s not 97 all of a sudden, she just feels like it, she says. The midwife says it will go away once the baby is born. So there we are. As far as curveballs go, I think this is one we can handle. Or, Rachel is handling it fine. I’m the one who is most frustrated about it – feel so damned powerless. (yawns) This time I’d really better go sleep. Love you! Oceans!

(clicks)

Scene 38.5

OLIVIA

Oh that was… a little too close, somehow. Huh. (smiles) Mama used to tell me a story of how I used to kick her bladder when I was inside her tummy so she had to go pee STRAIGHT AWAY. I remember laughing so hard at that when I was… six maybe? Seven? I suppose this is the start of that. (smiles, then yawns) Right, I should go to bed too – must be all that fresh air. Talk to you next week. Bye!

(Trailer for Palimpsest)

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 39: SEPTEMBER 25-30, 2000

(INTRO MUSIC)

Scene 39.1

OLIVIA

(fake cheerful) Good morning, listeners! … or afternoon or whereever it is where you are… (smiles) I am so thrilled we have listeners in all sorts of time zones. (beat) I’m in a bit of a funk today, actually. Talked to my mama yesterday, and they’re selling the house. They’ve only lived there for five years or so, so it’s not like it’s my childhood home or anything, but… I have my room there, and it’s… (upset) If they sell it there is nowhere for me to go back to. No place that is… (voice breaks) home, I suppose. And that… I’m grown up and it shouldn’t matter… but I feel all adrift… (sob) They put so much effort into making it theirs. And now… (small sob) I suppose they really are splitting up. For real. It’s s till hard to grasp… (sighs) Sorry. I didn’t mean for that all to spill out. (beat) Anyway. I am still looking for my dad – my bio-dad – Mike – and it seems he may be Australian. I had an e-mail from Cassie the other day, and they’re a little stuck at the moment, but they got as far as Melbourne… Cassie and Charlene think he worked in one of the libraries there in 2000. So, if we have any listeners in Melbourne, and you could help us find Mike – hashtag find Mike! – please get in touch. Thank you so much. (beat) So, last week, Kat was unhappy about getting her period, Bri (Bree) decided to perform at the café and Rachel’s hip pain was worse. Welcome to the year 2000!

Scene 39.2

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

JESS

Hey Kat, this will be short. I’m leaving for a tutorial in one minute. Just wanted to say thank you so much for your latest batch of feedback on the screenplay. That would never have occurred to me. But you are completely right. Karen would never do it that way. I am reworking it and sending you a new version, looking forward to hearing what you think. Oh, and Bri (Bree) is performing tomorrow – I am going to try and record it for you. Fingers crossed it will work! Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 39.3

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

SHIRIN

Hello Jess, Shirin here. Thanks for the packing advice. (smiles) I am getting everything ready – my nan has agreed I can keep my room in the flat, so I am leaving a lot of my stuff here. Will get some time off in December so I’m probably flying home then to see my family. And to grab all the stuff I am forgetting now, I suppose. (laughs) It’s overwhelming – trying to anticipate every need I‘ll have for… *months* and then trying to cram it all in one suitcase. I remember you stressing about it and now I understand why! But yes, I know I can get things there, as well. (beat) I tried to get a leave of absence from work, but they declined, so… I resigned. It is scary to leave but I haven’t been happy there for such a long time that it was also a relief. Speaking of relief… I broke it off with Dave, finally. Should have done it long ago, of course, but… I enjoyed having him around. He says he’ll miss me so much and I… I don’t think I will miss him. Didn’t say that, of course. But I am ready for this new adventure and I don’t want anything to hold me back. (beat) Hope everything’s good with you. More yankee hugs! Bye!

(clicks)

Scene 39.4

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

KAT

Hello Jess, I am so glad I could help! I guess writing is like any other creative project – always better when you bring in lots of different perspectives. Looking forward to reading the next screenplay version! (beat) I am tired but (surprised) kind of happy – had a pretty good day at work. Got to talking to some of my colleagues at lunch – I always bring a packed lunch, city centre is *expensive* – and we were swapping stories of all the bananas callers. It was hilarious – I didn’t have many stories as I am still so new, but I told them about the man I spoke to yesterday – he was getting football tickets – Chelsea against Manchester United I think – and when I was entering the credit card information I have to put Miss or Mrs or Mr, so I said “And that’s ‘Mr’…?” and he said, in the RP:est of RP accents “No, it’s ‘Lord’, actually” (laughs). I mean, turns out there are boxes to check for Lord and Lady and Doctor and all sorts of titles if you just look for them, but… Why would that be important? I hardly think his credit card would be rejected for using the wrong title! (more serious) People are strange… What else… I went to my GP yesterday, and she put me on the therapy waiting list. She couldn’t say when it would be my turn, but she said it is likely to be months rather than weeks. She also did a check-up, and apparently my iron levels are low, so I got some pills. And she told me to get on prenatal vitamins since I am trying to get pregnant. So am popping pills over here… I’ve been thinking I should try to lose some weight and maybe cut down on coffee and alcohol, in case it makes a difference. (sigh) I just want to be pregnant again, Jess! Wish I could snap my fingers (snaps fingers) and make it happen… Ugh. Anyway. I have some fun new colleagues to talk to. Always something. And I really hope your recording works tonight – can’t wait to listen to Bri’s (Bree’s) song! Love you! Oceans of hugs!

(clicks)

Scene 39.5

(Modem dial-up tone) (click)

(café ambience)

JESS
Kat! I’m at Gerrie’s open mic night. So excited! Hope I can make this work – so I can record Bri’s (Bree’s) performance for you. Hang on – there we go…

(clicks)

BRI

(slightly distant) Hello. My name is Bri (Bree), I’m really nervous. I wanted to sing a song I wrote and… Anyway. This is Hero. (Starts singing. Stops.) OK. I’m gonna go again. Sorry. I’m so nervous.

(BRI performs song, applause)

JESS

(happy tears) Isn’t she incredible? I have to go give her a big hug. Love you!

(clicks)

Scene 39.6

OLIVIA

Wow. I knew aunt Bri (Bree) did some singing, but I’ve never heard any of her music before. I wonder why… I tried to see her – she lives in Auckland – but she’s been overseas for a few months, and she’s coming back in October, I think. I’ll try to catch up with her then. Thanks for listening, truly. It means so much to me. (beat) Talk to you next week.

(Trailer for Cast Junkie)

OLIVIA

If you know anything about my biological father – Mike – please let me know, I would very much like to get in touch with him. (pause) Please e-mail me at y2kpod@gmail.com, find me on Twitter or Instagram @y2kpod. Also check out our webpage, at y2kpod.com, where you can find out more about the show, and, of course, listen to all the episodes. We are also on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify and wherever you get your podcasts. If you like Y2K, please tell your friends to listen too! And if you want to support the show further – thank you so much – you can do that by going to patreon.com[slash]y2kpod and pledging a monthly amount – from 1 US dollar you get all our episodes early! So if you were a patron, you could check out next week’s episode in just a few days. I am so very happy and so grateful to our wonderful amazing patrons! We also have merch – check it out at Y2Kpod.com[slash]merch. Our amazing intro and outro music is created and recorded by Jake Haws, check out his podcast “Making Music with Jake Haws” to hear more. I’m Olivia, thank you for listening, and welcome back next week when we return to the year 2000.

 (OUTRO MUSIC)

EPISODE 40: OCTOBER 1-8, 2000

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EPISODE 41: OCTOBER 9-15, 2000

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EPISODE 42: OCTOBER 16-22, 2000

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EPISODE 43: OCTOBER 23-31, 2000

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EPISODE 44: NOVEMBER 1-5, 2000

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EPISODE 45: NOVEMBER 6-12, 2000

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EPISODE 46: NOVEMBER 13-19, 2000

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EPISODE 47: NOVEMBER 20-26, 2000

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EPISODE 48: NOVEMBER 27-30, 2000

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EPISODE 49: DECEMBER 1-10, 2000

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EPISODE 50: DECEMBER 11-17, 2000

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EPISODE 51: DECEMBER 18-24, 2000

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EPISODE 52: DECEMBER 25-31, 2000

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EPILOGUE: DECEMBER 31, 2000

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BEHIND THE SCENES 1: CAST INTERVIEW – Janis, Adam, Charlotte

Karin 

Hi, Karin here, creator of Y2K. You are about to hear a wonderful cast interview. Before we start I just wanted to let you know that when we recorded it we recorded it in two parts. So the first part is the non-spoilery version, which you’ll be hearing today, and the second part is the spoilery section which you’ll be hearing at a later date when the spoilery bits have all aired. Enjoy the non-spoilery version today.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Karin

Okay, hello. Welcome to our very first cast interview. My name is Karin Heimdahl and I’m the creator of Y2K. And I am sitting here with – or online with three of our wonderful cast members. And I’m going to ask them to each introduce themselves and to tell you their name, of course, and the character they’re playing. And also just ’cause, you know, because we’re in different bits of the world, where you are right now and what time it is. And I’m going to start with Charlotte.

Charlotte 

My name is Charlotte Norup, and I play Kirsten. And I’m in Denmark and it’s well 2 pm.

Karin 

Cool. Okay, Adam.

Adam 

I’m Adam Blanford. I play Johnno. And I’m in Colorado, USA. And it is 6:05 in the morning.

Karin 

Oh, dear.

Oh, dear, oh dear and Janis.

Janis 

Janis Westin I play Kat and I’m from Sweden. So same time zone as Charlotte. And so, a little after two in the afternoon. 

Karin 

Yes. And where are you? 

Janis 

In Sweden?

Karin 

Yes.

Janis 

I said that.

Karin 

Yes, I was just gonna say because you and I are in different cities, though they are very, very close.

Yes.

They’re very, very close to each other. And I’m in Gothenburg, Sweden. So it’s about – how long does it take you to get to my house? Janis?

Janis 

20 minutes with – 

20/25 minutes. By car.

Karin 

Yeah, we’re quite close. Cool. Okay. I wanted to start by – just because I know this is very different for all three of you – I wanted to talk to you a little bit about, or let you tell us a little bit about your, your voice acting background. And why don’t we start with Adam.

Adam 

Alright. Notice I sound a little bit different. I’m fighting a cold.

I have been voice acting for about two years. And I started in August 2017. And I’ve been- I’ve done about 40/45 different podcasts and YouTube productions, things like that. And I’ve narrated three audio books. When I’m not fighting a cold I actually sound really good and people like my voice. Yeah, I played a whole range of characters from you know heroes to villains and I’ve got a pretty good facility for accents which is really helpful with Johnno. 

Karin 

Yeah which we’re very happy about!

Adam 

So I’ve really had a fun time for the last few years doing this.

Karin 

Cool! Yeah and Janis? 

Janis 

Yes. I have absolutely no experience of this is definitely the first thing that I do and it’s thanks to Karin. She- before she told me there’s such a thing as audio drama, I didn’t know that, so yeah, but I know her from before and thankfully she will let me be part of this.

Karin 

Cool! Yeah, I actually ’cause you and I, Janis, we went to, we studied drama about 20 years ago.

Janis 

Yep, yeah. Y2K.

Karin 

Yeah, exactly around that time a little bit earlier actually, like ’99 or something like that. And when I was thinking, Okay, I need a Swedish voice actor who is not me because I don’t sound Swedish. And I need a Swedish voice actor who is or was very sort of happy with English and I know that, Janis, you speak English a lot in your daily life even though we live in Sweden. So I immediately thought of you and, and also because, you know, you’ve done a lot of acting, but you haven’t done voice acting, so I knew that you were a really good actress. And I was like, okay!

So I got you into this. Okay, Charlotte.

Charlotte 

Yeah. I haven’t been nearly as active as Adam has but in February it’s been two years for me, too. I haven’t been in nearly as many things but it’s okay. Slowly progressing. 

Karin 

Yeah. 

Charlotte 

I’m mainly in horror productions, because that’s just my thing. Um, but I’m also the co-creator of Calling Darkness, so busy with that as well.

Karin 

Which is a comedy horror, right? 

Charlotte 

Yeah, yeah. 

Karin 

Yeah. 

Charlotte 

So not pure horror.

Karin 

No, exactly. I love it.

But I’m glad we could lure you into this even though it’s not horror.

Charlotte 

Yeah, no, I had seen the casting call and was like, oh, that sounds really good. And then Graham Rowat sent me the casting call saying, I think this might be for you. And like, well, it’s in Swedish. I don’t speak Swedish! So I shut down about that until I talked to you about it. So it’s fine!

Karin 

Yeah, and I actually because yes, the role of Kirsten was originally Kerstin, and she was Swedish because you play Kat’s mother, you play Janis’ mother. And actually, I mean, I had some Swedish auditions, and I just thought you were much better than they were. So I was like, Well, okay.

She now has a Danish mother! 

Charlotte 

Yeah.

Karin 

Yeah. And I think I mean, my next first question was going to be what made you interested in Y2K? And I think Charlotte and Janis have, have already sort of answered that. I coerced both of you in various ways into doing this. Yeah, but Adam, what made you interested in this show?

Adam 

I ran across the casting call talking to a friend of mine. My friend from New- New Zealand, was really interested in the podcast and she suggested that I try out for a part and I think I auditioned like the day before the casting call ended. I was like, Oh, no, why not? 

Karin 

Threw that in! Yeah, 

Adam 

Yeah. You know, it can’t hurt and so, so Johnno’s voice was kind of born there, I kind of threw together some different accents that I knew. 

Karin 

Hmm. Yeah. Cuz you were actually the, if we’re talking about casting, you were actually the only role that I did callbacks for. And I mean, for a few different reasons, because I had I had three of you. And Janis actually got to hear all three. I think actually four, but I only called back three in the end. And it was because of the character of Johnno. Oh, and this is the spoiler free section of our interview, but the character of Johnno is, has to do some fairly heavy stuff. And I wanted to, because I think when I sent you the callback, I also sort of described a little bit with this character is and wanted to make sure that you were ready and able and felt comfortable doing that. Playing, you know, playing the villain is kind of hard. It’s tough.

Adam 

Yeah. I’ve done it in a few different productions and there’s definitely a responsibility. You have to make people dislike you, you know, you can’t be, you can’t be too likable. And I remember in our one of our first first meetings, you said, I gotta turn off the inner nice guy. So yeah, I do my best to do that, and, you know, be as heartless as humanly possible.

Karin  

Yeah, and I think you’ve definitely done that. I’ve heard all of it and Charlotte and Janis have not, but I have. But yeah, it’s it is tough, because it’s easy. I mean, playing a villain is a really cool challenge, but it’s so difficult ’cause you have to, you know, turn off all that sort of empathy.

Adam 

But if you just got to commit, and absolutely just just not even think about what’s going on, just exist in the moment and just let loose. Once you do that, then then it gets you know, it’s a little bit easier to get into the character mode. Now that I’ve done Johnno, a few times. 

Karin 

Yeah, 

Adam 

It was a little hard at first because you know, there was the accent and then there was the scene and then there was the, you know, the emotion and but 

Karin 

yeah, 

Adam 

I figured out the balance.

Karin 

Yeah, it’s hard. It is hard. I think that’s cuz you, Adam, you, obviously Johnno doesn’t sound like you do. And I liked your British accent, though I had to throw in a line somewhere that Kat has that has he worked really hard when he moved to London to lose his Devon accent, ’cause this is not a Devon accent in any way shape or form.

And I made Johnno be from Exmouth because I used to live there and I was like, this is cool. I know. I know this. I know what this little city looks like. So that’s why. But yeah, and it’s actually kind of perfect that I’m interviewing the three of you because of course, you have very close interactions in the podcast because Charlotte plays Kirsten who is Kats mother, and of course Kat and Johnno have this very tumultuous relationship. Let’s just say that. That starts- you actually hear Johnno, Johnno is the first person that you hear apart from Janis and I in the prologue. And he just has one line.

And that’s where it starts off. So yeah, 

Adam 

The legend was born. 

Karin 

Yeah! Legendary villain is born. Yeah. But I was going to talk to Charlotte and Janis because you, like me, you act in a language that is not your own. So Charlotte, how what, what are your thoughts on that?

Charlotte 

I think it’s, it might actually be easier than if, if I did it in Danish. Because I think if I did it in Danish, I would be overthinking. What does this sound like? And rather than just going with the flow and thinking well, the words are pronounced like so and so just just go ahead and do it. Now when I see Danish shows and it’s people who aren’t very experienced, it sounds very, it doesn’t have the same flow. And it just sounds artificial in some ways a bit robotic and very, I’m reading a script. And obviously, you are still at risk of sounding like you’re reading a script, because that is what you have in front of you. So that’s no memorizing it and just going with the flow of it, but I think it is easier to sound a bit more natural when it’s not in my my own language.

Karin 

I love that. I hadn’t thought of it like that. But I think maybe it is for me too. And I think that that is a conversation that is definitely being had around, you know, Swedish films as well that a lot of the actors sound a little robotic, and like they’re reading a script. What’s your experience, Janis?

Janis 

Like I said, I have no experience. 

Karin 

Well you’ve done it now!

Janis 

I’ve done it now. Yeah, and I’m relying very heavily on you. To tell me how to pronounce things, because I don’t really have an ear for, for different accents. I don’t really know if I’m speaking American English or British English and Kat is someone who has supposedly lived in London for four years. So I think the British influence should definitely take over there. And so you have to remind me once in a while, it’s “can’t”.

Like, yeah,

Karin 

Yeah, we’ve definitely had those conversations of “can’t” and what was the other one? It was “cast”, of course, and it was… We had the other day we were recording, you struggled with “Olivier” because it was Olivier theatre. And you were just like I can’t! I can’t say stupid Olivier! Oliviyer! Oliviurr! And you were like can, can they go to a different theatre? And I was like, no! This play was on in that year, at the Olivier! You got there in the end.

But we’ve been talking a little bit about in the cast discord that you started Janis about voice actor kryptonite I think you started Adam. And don’t I think it’s a spoiler to say what was your worst one

Adam 

God, “watermelon and feta salad” it’s the transitions in fact that it’s the fact that the end sound at the end of “watermelon” and “and” together with my accent, just they collide and it’s a train wreck and so I have to really sit there and and just sound it out. It’s my Olivier. Yeah,

Karin 

it’s your Olivier!

Adam 

Watermelon and feta salad. I had to practice that about 14 times.

Karin 

But you got there! I heard it!

Adam 

Yeah, but you didn’t see what I cut out were all the swear words. That was three minutes

Karin 

That might have made a really funny blooper, Adam,

Charlotte 

You should always save those. 

Karin  

Yeah. Oh, you have lots of- Charlotte has lots of –

Adam 

Every clip would be 45 minutes long!

Karin 

Yeah OK. Fair enough. I think it depends a little bit on how blooper-y you are. But Charlotte has lots of sort of swearing at cars. 

Charlotte 

Yeah. Yeah. Lots of them. Yeah. It’s a lot of trying to be very serious and then stopping and going, and that’s a car. And that’s another car. Who needs cars anyway? I think I said at some point, I mean, I’m thinking I can hear them going past . So, I also have tractors sometimes. That’s great different sound.

Adam 

I get that too

Charlotte 

It’s wonderful.

Karin 

I have helicopters because I live on the fifth floor and that makes a lot of noise. I think yeah, that might be a separate blooper reel just Y2K actors yelling, at various things going past

Janis 

The Batmobile!

Karin 

Kristy has a really long one where she, she’s sort of swearing at her neighbors who were standing yelling outside her window. It’s hilarious. And I turned the volume up and I can actually hear what they’re saying, but I’m not sure I can put that in the blooper reel. Yeah, but, Charlotte, I was about to call you Kristen there. Sorry. Surely… Do you have any voice actor kryptonite words?

Charlotte 

Oh, I probably do. But I mean, that’s just the English language in general. You know, I mean, sometimes it’s really simple. And I’m like, practice this 10/20 times. I’ve got this down. And as soon as I hit record, it’s like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah and nothing that makes sense comes out on I’m basically inventing a new language. Oh God, I have a lot of bloopers with stuff like that. Yeah,

Karin 

No, I completely recognize that. And sometimes it’s the really simple lines that catch you out, isn’t it a sort of, there’s no reason why this very simple three word line of common words should trip me up. 

Charlotte 

But it does. 

Karin 

Yeah.

Charlotte 

And trying to do it, like 10 times in a row, like, I’ve got this now. I’ve got this now, got this now. I could do it. Like when I’m just whispering it to myself going, Okay, these are the words. You have them down, and then it dies for some reason. 

Karin 

Yeah, well, these things happen don’t they. 

Charlotte 

Yeah. 

Karin 

I was gonna go to Adam cuz he I know you prepared something a question or a point of discussion or something. I was gonna hand it over to you

Adam 9 

But I was going to ask, I know that a lot of the the show is based on some some past experiences. And I wondered if you could talk a little bit about how much the show is based on actual events and how much kind of there was a, you know, fictional element and introduced because I was curious about that.

Karin 

Yeah. Okay, let’s see, how can I do this without spoiling anything? Okay, so it’s, it’s definitely more fictional than not, let’s start there. The original idea I had for this show was just you know, very simple two do long-distance friends sending each other voicemails and the story of one of them which is Kat having a very troubled relationship was a story that that is inspired by real experiences, certainly for me, but it’s you know, and it started off like that. And then I was like, but I can’t have the other person, which is Jess, can’t have her just be responding to this story, she has to have her own story because otherwise this is gonna be really weird and very boring. So Jess’s story is completely fictional, really. Though, I mean, there are elements in there that I can’t talk about, for spoilery reasons, that are definitely my experience. But it’s, I mean, the the character is very sort of, but then I wanted because Kat sort of, or, I should say, both Kat and Jess sort of started off as me. But like different aspects of my personality. And then as I was writing it, of course, which happens as I know that you write Adam, they sort of take on a life of their own and they’re their own people, you know. And of course, I cast you, Janis to play the Kat character, because, well, one at the time, I couldn’t do a Swedish accent I can now but I couldn’t. And also it felt too close and I didn’t want it to be so much me. And I think you’ve really made her your own, which I love. And also since I was writing, when I cast, well, when I cast you, Janis, I’d written maybe 10 episodes or something. When I cast the rest of you, I’d written about 27. I think. So the latter half of the season is written after I cast all of you, and is very much influenced by your performances, which I really love doing that, whatever I do next, I will try and and sort of consider that, that casting first is a really cool thing when you’re writing. So yeah, does that answer your question, sort of? 

Adam 

It does it does. I love the, I mean, the story is really compelling. And I just, I know that you had revealed some, some, some details. And so I wondered how that melded with a fictional moment. So I really liked the fact that you’re able to do that and I think tha t the fact that I’m a guy if you hadn’t said anything, I would have thought that this was, you know, almost actual events just the the vehicle or the framework was the what was being used to tell the story. I wouldn’t I wouldn’t know the difference.

Karin 

Cool. Oh, wow. That is a compliment from a fellow writer. Thank you so much, Adam. Cool. Wow. Okay. Well, I might actually once we hit into spoiler territory, say some more things about this, but I’ll leave it there for now. I think, Charlotte, you had a point of discussion as well.

Charlotte 

Yeah. And I’m glad I had a couple of them because Adam stole my first one! So, okay! Always good with a plan B. I was wondering a bit about the process of doing Y2K. I mean, are you doing everything because it’s, it’s sometimes seems like, I mean, it’s writing, directing, editing, everything.

Karin 

Yes, I mean, the short answer is yes. I do everything. It’s, it’s what I, first of all, it’s kind of my thing. I’m one of those people who just do things. And I love, I love a project. And this is, this is a project. And when it came when it comes to editing, I was sort of hoping to get some help. And then I realized that that’s going to be expensive, and I’m cheap. So I’m just gonna do it myself. And, I mean, I have lots of audio drama friends who edit, you know, like sci fi shows, with like, 10 people in conversation at the same time and wacky you know, laser fights or stuff like that. And this is not that. I mean, there are definite sound effects going on and also ambience backgrounds and things like that, but the main things are very sort of home like scences. So, you know, it’s it’s doors and washing machines and, you know, footsteps, so many footsteps and you know, and also of course a lots of sort of have this sort of clicka and modem thing that I put into the voicemails, stuff like that. And again, I mean, it’s, I’m, at the point of recording, I’m editing Episode 20 out of 54. And then there are four Patreon episodes. So I’m not there yet, but my goal is to be sort of halfway once we release episode one, so to be at 27 and I think I’ll be able to do that. But as you know, cuz you have read the scripts, they get more complicated as the season wears on. So more, you know, more sound effects more people in conversation at the same time because you know, I started off with this, as I was talking about before this very simple idea of two people doing voicemails. And then I added this sort of what seemed like a simple framework idea of, you know, one person finding these voicemails 20 years later. And then I couldn’t help myself. I just started adding people in. And, you know, it’s and I love that I did, because I’m so I’m so thrilled with all of you and your performances and what that brings to the story. So I’m really glad that I did, but yes, it’s more work. What I am getting some help with is marketing. I have two lovely people who are assisting me on that, though, you know, I do a lot of that too. Yeah. Because like, it’s one of those things where social media marketing requires sort of that you’re just there on social media and talk to people really engage and communicate and, you know, that kind of has to be me, I think, at least for now. Does that answer your question? 

Charlotte 

Yeah, yeah. 

Karin 

You just do!

Before we stop, I’d like you to tell us where people can find you if they would like to find you. And I’m not sure that Janis has anywhere but I know that the other two of you do so I’m going to start with Charlotte. How can people find you?

Charlotte 

I think the easiest way to find me is on Twitter. And it’s basically just my name. So it’s Charlotte underscore Norup. (n o r u p). I’m on Instagram But it’s like it’s a mix of whatever weird stuff happens in my personal life! And podcasting, so might not be as interesting, but it’s 2 shy- two, the number two, s h y. Norup. And I have a VA Facebook page. Yeah. Stuff like that. I think. Yeah, that works. I don’t know if you can just do a search for me or something. I don’t know. 

Karin 

Yeah, it’s on the y2k website. 

Charlotte 

Okay 

Karin 

Y2Kpod.com and that’s the number two. I’m gonna let you say it anyway! So Adam, how can people find you?

Charlotte 

You can do it!

Adam 

So you can find me on Twitter at Doc (d o c) underscore, Adam underscore VO. So that’s really my main my main means of contact. You know, you can find me on a bunch of different podcasts like The Insomnia Project and I’m gonna be on another one, like, we’re coming up with a Christmas episode too. I wrote that and then we’re going to have a week to put everything together for the audio. So pray for me!

Karin

You can do it.

Adam

Well, we did the 11th hour audio. We submitted it on the 11th hour 

Charlotte

Yeah, exactly. 

Adam

With minutes to spare, literally. 

Charlotte

Yeah.

Adam 

So

Charlotte

It wasn’t saying

Karin

I was just watching that from on social media. And I was like, these people are just amazing.

Adam

Oh, yeah. But yeah, so really Twitter’s The best way to get get in touch with me and then you know, listen for me and different podcasts and go oh hey there’s Adam. Or is it? 

Karin

Or is it! And Janis I guess if people want to get in touch with you they can get in touch with me first. I guess.

Janis 

Yeah, just yeah come to Alingsås, Sweden, and look for the person with the weird hair color. Right now it’s pink, purple. That will probably change but yeah, I don’t do social media just so yeah, I like people to contact you!

Karin 

Yes, talk to me. You can find me on Twitter at Karin h e i m, so that’s K a r i n H e i m. So that’s my my name sort of, but not all of it because I thought I was too long. So KarinHeim. And of course you can find all of this at our website at y2kpod.com as well.

Okay, cool. I think it’s time to say goodbye to the listeners!

Oh, oceans of hugs!

Transcribed by https://otter.ai

Transcript edited and polished by Paola Massimo.

BEHIND THE SCENES 2: CAST INTERVIEW – Kirsty, Felicity, Lorcan

Karin  

Hi, Karin here, creator of Y2K. You are about to hear a wonderful cast interview. Before we start I just wanted to let you know that when we recorded it we recorded it in two parts. So the first part is the non-spoilery version, which you’ll be hearing today, and the second part is the spoilery section which you’ll be hearing at a later date when the spoilery bits have all aired. Enjoy the non-spoilery version today.

(INTRO MUSIC)

Right! Hi, my name is Karin Heimdahl and I am the creator of Y2K and I am sitting here in an online room with three of our wonderful cast members. And I’m going to ask them to introduce themselves, of course give you their name and the character they’re playing. And also just tell us where in the world they are and what time it is because that is fascinating. Why don’t you start Kirsty?

Kirsty 

So hello everyone, I’m Kirsty Woolven, I play Olivia. I live in the UK, and at the moment is 20 past seven in the evening.

Karin 

Right. Okay, Felicity.

Felicity 

I’m Felicity, I play Rachel and I am sitting in a sunny room at 20 past eight in the morning in New Zealand.

Karin 

Yay! And Lorcan?

Lorcan 

Hello, my name is Lorcan. I am in Dublin. Oh, I’m sorry, I play Bri, and it is also 20 past seven at night.

Karin 

Yes, exactly. And I am- I play Jess. And I am in Gothenburg, Sweden, and it is 20 past eight in the evening. So, we are far apart. But yeah! So let’s get started. I’m sort of interested in your voice acting backgrounds a little bit and I know that some of you have done more than others. So why don’t we start with you, Felicity?

Felicity 

This is my first big one. I’ve done- yeah, a couple of just small one or two line things in the past and done a few audio book samples and things. But yeah, this is the first chance I’ve had to actually get into a character and play something. So it’s been an awesome experience.

Karin 

Oh, cool. Great. Okay, Kirsty?

Kirsty 

So I started doing voiceover acting… actually it was kind of more like this time last year actually it’s roughly around a year now. And again, like Felicity this is kind of like my first big role that I was cast and like before I’d done like little bitty bits but I’ve been in quite a few things over this past year. Yeah.

Karin 

You’ve been cast in a few things after I cast you for this and of course no one’s heard you in this yet.

Kirsty 

No! I think the things after I was cast in Y2K are Soulborn City, Haunted Hell House of Horror, which are both out and then also a new podcast that you are in also as well Karin, Luminaris Brimstone.

Karin 

Yeah, yeah cool!

I only have a tiny little bit part in the prologue.

Kirsty 

Same.

Karin 

Fun though!

Kirsty 

Yeah, definitely.

Karin 

Cool. Okay, and Lorcan?

Lorcan 

Yeah, this was the very first voice acting thing I’d ever done. And it was so nice to be involved because again, I suppose I had done kind of more theater stuff. And even that was pretty limited. So this was one of the first times a long time that I probably got to do kind of like a character and it was just really nice was really cool to be involved.

Karin 

Yeah. Good. I mean, and you are a singer as well of course.

Lorcan 

Yeah.

Karin 

And yeah, and Kirsty is also a singer

Lorcan 

 Oh, lovely!

Karin 

Yeah.

Kirsty 

I don’t do any singing in this.

Karin 

I know I’ve been sort of thinking of if I could work that in somehow and I really just can’t, so… sorry!

Lorcan 

You’ll have to do another podcast then.

Karin 

Oh, yes! Absolutely!

But, of course I mean- you are all three of you are here because you auditioned for this and I didn’t know any of you beforehand. So I’m really curious what made you want to audition for this project? Let’s start with Lorcan.

Lorcan 

I just loved the brief of it. I really appreciate it as well. Like I think with the character that I auditioned for, I auditioned for two characters, I can’t remember-

Karin 

You auditioned for Claire as well. Yeah,

Lorcan 

Yep, yep, yep.

And- but I really appreciated the way that you had kind of written about Bri like this. It’s kind of it wasn’t open to interpretation, but I think you were kind of willing to, you know, if a trans person kind of auditioned for the role that maybe that would be taken into account with it. I really appreciated that. Because on StarNow, which is where I saw the listing, like trans roles, that’s, like, not a thing, you know, like, it’s really, really rare and it’s quite problematic and a lot of ways because I often find that I’m just kind of applying for female roles and then it creates- I don’t know. Like, I find that I don’t get that many callbacks and stuff. And sometimes I wonder I’m like, Is it because I don’t know, they’re afraid that when a trans person is kind of playing a female role that changes the role or something or brings this I don’t know, I you know, I don’t know what, what they think. But so anyway, it was just really refreshing to see that you wanted this kind of inclusivity and I really, really appreciated it, you know?

Karin 

Oh, great,

Lorcan 

 It was a big, big draw for me.

Karin   

Yeah. And I actually-, you keep calling her Bree, which is a tiny spoiler, but not a big one. Because she’s Bri at the beginning. She changes her name to Bree so we’re going to probably say Bri and Bree interchangeably in this interview, and you’re gonna have to deal with that listeners! But, I mean, Bri was written as a trans character. Bri of course is Jess’s sibling- my sibling. I was very sure that I wanted a trans actor to play the trans character. And of course, and I had quite a few, which I was thrilled about because, you know, it’s, it can be hard to find people who are, who are part of a marginalized group to sort of even reach those actors and to make them understand that yes, I want you to be a part of this. And it was also really, really, I wanted everyone to be able to audition for whatever they felt like. And you I mean, you auditioned for Claire as well Lorcan. And you were definitely in the running for that as well. I think it was your singing that clinched you for, for Bree.

So yeah, cool. Okay. Felicity, how did you hear about this?

Felicity 

Um, it was StarNow as well. I actually I saw the, the listing and I was like, “Oh I’ll favorite that and i’ll come back to it.” Because I think I was out and about, and the next thing I know I actually had a message from you on Instagram!

Karin 

Yeah.

Felicity 

 And you said you know would you audition for this and I was like heck yeah! I think it’s just because you don’t get a lot of parts for the New Zealand accent. It’s- and it’s often mistaken for Australian and sometimes South African and people aren’t looking for that. So it was really exciting to see that as an opportunity to not try and put on awful American accent or something! I could use my own voice which was actually a pretty awesome opportunity. So um, yeah, no, it’s it’s nice. And this is how I sound regularly and Rachel gets the same- the same accent.

Karin 

Yeah,

Felicity 

Yeah, pretty horrendous sometimes, sorry about that guys! but um-

Lorcan 

No, it’s lovely!

Karin 

Yeah. We all love your accent!

Felicity 

Yeah, you haven’t walked out, you know, fish and chips and everything. So I’ll take it.

Karin 

Yeah, I mean, I didn’t make it easy for myself setting this in New Zealand, partially but I mean, I set it in New Zealand because I visited New Zealand in 2010. And I just, I just fell in love with this country and these lovely people and I was like, Oh my god, I love it so much, I have to set this there! And so yeah, but also, I mean, I had a lot of Australian voice actors auditioning for the character of Rachel. And some of them did, you know, pretty good New Zealand accents, but you know.

Ended up with the real thing!

Lorcan 

Oh, sorry. I was just gonna say what what is and sorry, I don’t want to offend you, i’m just curious. Like, what is the main difference between like the Australian and the New Zealand accent if you could like verbalize that?

Felicity 

probably easiest one would be “fish and chips” versus “fish and chips”.

Karin 

Yeah!

Felicity 

The big difference, yeah. We say, you know, yeah, “five, six” or “five, six”.

Karin 

Yeah.

Felicity 

That I sound. We become very ‘a’ and they become very ‘e’.

Lorcan 

Interesting. Okay.

Felicity 

Yeah. So it’s really obvious to Kiwis and Aussie’s

Lorcan 

Sure

Felicity 

Hard to pick it out, but yeah. A lot of other differences each other. You can’t resent it, you know, just because we Australia’s little sister, or little brother.

Karin 

Well, you are very much in the focus for this show. So you know,

Felicity 

That’s awesome that New Zeland’s see this getting a bit of a spotlight so it’s not Lord of the Rings.

Karin 

Exactly. Kirsty, it’s your turn. How did you hear about this?

Kirsty 

Um, so I think I’m probably the only one out of us lot that heard about this on on Twitter because it’s quite an active audio drama community especially within the UK. I don’t know about other countries as much but it’s definitely very strong in the audio drama, um, community on- in the UK. So I think there’s Sarah Golding. She’s got a Twitter page, where she just retweets all audio drama. Yeah, exactly. So I think I found it via that page. And then I had a look, I know I- I auditioned for Olivia, obviously. I can’t remember if I auditioned for anyone else. But with Olivia, it was just that when I was reading it, I was like, oh, Olivia lives in Birmingham. I live near Birmingham. She’s into rocks and fossils. Like that was a cool thing I found as a kid, and not gonna spoil anything, but it’s kind of creepy how many similarities there are between us, that I did not know until I was cast and we started having little meetings and Karin started telling us a bit more about the story.

Karin 

Yeah. We can have a little chat about that in the spoiler section if you want.

Kirsty 

Yeah definitley.

Karin 

Yeah. Your name Kirsty, I mean, of course, we’ve been sort of brushing past each other on Twitter and in some other projects that we were both sort of had bit-parts.

Kirsty 

Yeah, the Kingery.

Karin 

Yeah,

Kirsty 

That’s where I first saw, well heard you, I suppose.

Karin 

Yeah.

Kirsty 

Oh, and also podUK we were both at that.

Karin 

We were but we didn’t meet!

Kirsty 

We didn’t see each other! I don’t get that still!

Karin 

We were in- So we were at the same event in, in February of 2019. And yes, I don’t even remember seeing you there, which is-

Kirsty 

No! We were in the same workshops too!

Karin 

There were lots of people. We’re definitely seeing each other this year because we’re sharing a table!

Kirsty 

Yay!

Karin 

So, that’s going to be really good. Cool. Okay. We already actually talked about accents and of course Felicity you record in your own accent. And Kirsty, you sort of record in your own accent, though you try to make it a little bit more general, I think, right?

Kirsty 

Do I? I just be myself! I don’t try because like, like, I have to record so much for Olivia. I don’t intentionally really do it. I mean, there may be slight differences between different batches of scripts because we’ve been recording in roughly batches of 10. And all recorded I should say, we’ve always recorded everything As of early mid December 2019. So, yeah, I’ve not intentionally recorded in a different accent because people say cuz, well, at least for England, there’s a very strong skew towards the south. And that’s where I’m from. So most people say I’ve got a neautral-ish accent for England. Even though I don’t sound northern at all. I sound quite southern, but-

Lorcan 

Yeah.

Karin 

But I think also Kirsty has epic bloopers. She’s the epic-est of all the epic bloopers and the the most epic sort of chatting to herself in between takes and it is just the most charming thing. And I have long, long long recordings of lovely bloopers, but you keep doing the sort of “Oh, I sound quite posh now! Don’t I? I have to be little-“

Kirsty 

I know, there’s a really big thing because poshness is not a positive thing where I’m from. It kind of means that you’re a bit snobby and above everyone else, which I don’t think I am, but there we go.

Karin 

No, I don’t think you are either. And then sometimes you go “Oh, that’s a bit chavvy!”. I can’t do that-

Kirsty 

Yeah. That’s like the opposite.

Yeah, because I went to uni in Kent which is surprisingly- if you stay.. so Kent’s in the southeast so it’s kind of generally the posh fancy bit of the UK for those who or England for those who don’t know the geography so the assumption is that everyone’s very posh and  sounds like they speak like the Queen. If you go away from like Canterbury because there’s people from all over the world and the UK there because there’s lots of universities but if you go everywhere else it’s quite it’s quite rundown deprived kind of stuff like that and they don’t speak how I do they do speak more chavvy, which is really difficult to explain if you’re not from the UK. I don’t know Lorcan, do you know what chavvy means?

Lorcan 

I do, yep!

Kirsty 

Yeah, see, like, you know what I mean, but yeah.

Lorcan 

I guess I know in Australia, I suppose. I don’t know if it’s the same word New Zealand but there’s like bogan.

Felicity 

Perfect pronunciation!

Lorcan 

But I don’t know do you use that word in New Zealand as well?

Felicity 

Yeah, yeah, we got a couple of bogan places around.

Lorcan 

I love that word. That’s a really funny word in Ireland we say scanger which is not very nice.

Kirsty 

Did you just say like scanger?

Lorcan 

Yes. Scanger.

Kirsty 

Oh,

Lorcan 

Yeah. I know they have a couple of different.. Yeah, that’s what they say.

Karin 

If we’re on the subject of accents. Of course, you and I Lorcan, we both pretend to be Canadian.

Lorcan 

 I know! Well, I’m lucky because- so I went to an international school in Saudi Arabia till I was 13. And my accent is- was really kind of North American for a long time, and it still is actually like, really, it’s, you know, so it was my accent is like sometimes people actually do think that I’m Canadian, so I was like, oh, great!

Kirsty 

You sound Irish to me. You don’t sound like really, really strong Irish though, but I can definitely hear it.

Lorcan 

Yeah, it’s there a bit. Because I’ve been so been in Ireland now for maybe, maybe longer, I suppose. Yeah, Yes, I have!

I’m just pretending to myself that I’m much younger than I am.

Um, yeah. I think certain words I say sound a bit American and then yeah. Yeah.

It’s very it’s very neutral as well Karin though, like,

Karin 

Well, it’s very American, really.

Lorcan 

Yeah.

Karin 

And it’s funny, but I mean, I picked up my American accent in an international school in Brussels. So I didn’t know-

Lorcan 

It’s a thing though, isn’t it? It’s international schools have this like, it’s like a North American but not really. It’s mad.

Karin 

Yeah,

Lorcan 

It’s very, very interesting. Were your teachers American?

Karin 

Yeah, most of them were. We’ve had some British teachers as well. And I think because I was taught at English is my second language. And I was taught it in school with a very sort of British accent, the general British accent that we were talking about before that doesn’t actually exist. But anyway, that sort of Southern England-ish accent. And so I had kind of had to make a choice as a teenager which way to go and but all my friends were American, being all American! Yeah. And it’s handy because, you know, north, mainly people from the US or from Canada, if they don’t think I’m American of some sort, usually sort of East Coast American, they think I’m Canadian, and I was like, yeah, that works. I’ll just- I’ll be a Canadian who spent lots of years in London and it’s not easy and so you know, any weird things about the accent can be excused because she’s been living everywhere else!

Lorcan 

That’s so funny Karin, I’m the same because it’s always sometimes whenever people like where are you from? I’m like, this is such a long story like and it’s I feel like I have actually had people be like, I didn’t want to know that much.

Because I’m like well, I went to an international school, but my parents are from here and then they’re just like, like, whatever! You know?

Karin 

I know, I know I, I’ve sort of I’ve had to do that so much over the years and I’ve sort of abbreviated it to either I’m Swedish. Or I’m Swedish and I don’t sound Swedish. But nevermind.

Lorcan 

 I know, God. So funny.

Karin 

Yeah. I love that. Okay, so yeah, your characters still in non “spoilery zone”. So anything you can say about the sort of taking on of your characters without being spoilery? Let’s start with Felicity.

Felicity 

I could relate to her cheerfulness. You know? She always seemed positive and upbeat and upfront about her feelings and you know, Where she is in her life, which I actually really liked. And it was it was nice to be able to be cheerful about everything. So um, yeah, that was that was really fun and I only had sort of one or two tongue twisters. Thank you, Karin. Yeah, some of the others had a few that were a little bit more difficult than mine. Yeah, no, she’s she’s just a fun character to play. Yeah,

Karin  20:25 

Yeah.

Felicity 

She’s awesome. And I wouldn’t mind being a librarian! I don’t think that’s a spoiler.

Karin 

That’s not a spoiler. Rachel is a librarian and yeah!

Felicity 

Yeah, that’s that’s not a bad career choice.

Karin 

Yeah, I have. That’s not a spoiler either. We have some scenes set in libraries. And I just, I just love that I love adding that ambiance in instead of feeling the library feeling.

Felicity 

It almost sometimes feels like a sort of background secondary character ’cause-

Karin 

Yeah!

Felicity 

-Maia has got connection to the library as well, through you know work and art and everything and it’s, it’s nice to always have that, that anchor in the background.

Karin 

It’s true. It’s true.

Felicity 

Yeah.

Karin 

I like that. Kirsty! Anything you can say about Olivia?

Kirsty 

Um, that’s a bit difficult because-

Karin 

Yeah!

Kirsty 

She- she’s quite a private person especially in the beginning. Yeah, I mean when I’ve always been recording it’s been quite easy to imagine because I just imagined her standing in front of the microphone, which is also what I’m doing when when I record but yeah. I don’t know how much I can-.

Karin 

Well, we can leave you because-

Kirsty 

Yeah, cool.

Karin 

Pretty mysterious at the beginning.

Kirsty 

Yeah, she definitely keeps everything in for quite a while.

Karin 

Yeah. Really, she does.

Kirsty 

Yeah.

Karin 

And Bree, or Bri.

Lorcan 

Well, I just I really liked you know, there was a lot of things that I kind of, obviously could relate to with Bri like, just the trans experience. Also, Bri’s a musician there was there was that- um okay. I just want to say spoiler… Well, it’s not a spoiler, I don’t think. there was just a line that you wrote that I really loved. And it was it was when I was like, why didn’t you kind of pursue music full time, and this was when Bri was Bree, and Bree was like… I don’t know you just said it in this way that I really liked it she was like I’m kind of an introvert. You know, when I really like it really. I related to it so much. I was like, God that is so me like with it because it’s like, I love to do this. I love to songwrite, but I get really shy and scared and a lot of ways and it was just one thing that I really liked about her and I kind of liked. I think the way that you had described it as first as well was like kind of a reference point you used was Oz from Buffy.

Karin 

Yeah.

Lorcan 

I loved that so much. And I always when I was recording it, I would always try and remember that. And so this kind of quiet, you know, she’s kind of, I think like a lot of trans people, we end up spending a lot of time in our heads, kind of imagining this, the sort of the world that we want to be, or the way that we want to look, I suppose I know for me, that’s not what I did a lot, like, lot of daydreaming about the way that you know about being a woman and all this kind of stuff. And so it means that you end up being quite an introverted kind of a person in a lot of ways and I just saw that and in Bri and in Bree and I could really kind of channel what I was going through I suppose. You know, I really like that. Yeah,

Karin 

Because, I mean I I’m a very close friend of mine is trans and transitioned around this time. And she’s been helping me a little bit with just that perspective, because of course, I don’t have that perspective myself. But I originally, what the first scene I was writing with Bri as she was then I didn’t I thought she would be more like my friend who is much more outgoing than Bri is and much more outspoken and takes up more room, you know? And I just started writing her and she’s just not not that she is very sort of. She chooses her words very carefully. She’s very, very, I think I use innately cool, which for me is Oz from Buffy very much. She’s very, very thinking and she has when she says something it’s really thought through. And she isn’t sort of easily upset or budged, at least not outwardly. And she is a bit of an introvert. And I was just like, Okay, so this is nothing like my friend. This is a new character, hello, new character! I’m going to get to know you now!

Felicity 

She changed though, you know, across the series, when she’s first introduced as Bri, very closed in, and you can understand, given her her life, you seem to understand why she’s like that.

Karin 

Yeah.

Felicity 

Yeah. And then as you go along she’s still very careful with what words she picks and how she speaks. But there’s so much more emotion and she feels more open, especially with Jess, and just the emotional connection between them you can feel it, you know, build and become stronger which is which is pretty awesome to see so well written.

Karin 

Oh, thank you!

Lorcan 

Really well written.

Karin 

I love that. I’m gonna- we’re going to very soon head into the spoilery section, but I’m going to hand over to you Felicity because you had a question or a comment or something before we head over.

Felicity 

We kind of touched on it before a little bit with with tongue twisters and recording mishaps but um, I wanted to ask everyone if if you guys had any sort of favorite mishaps or tongue twisters it took you a while to get out.

Karin 

Why don’t you start Kirsty!

Kirsty 

I had a hell of the time with the word ingratiate. I did not know that was a word before I had to Google it! I did not know what it means! Um, yeah. There’s also all the place names, you guys know where those place names are from?

Karin 

We can’t tell that!

Kirsty 

Can’t say anymore, but those, those yeah. That was- those were really frustrating! And I’m sure like I don’t know if you’ve listened to those lot yeah, but I get to a word and I’m just like I’m gonna have to stop the recording and look up how to say it again!

Karin 

Yes, I’ve listened, Kirsty because Kirsty’s recording for so long I’ve listened to the first take of everything but I haven’t listened to all the takes of everything.

Kirsty 

Yeah, I don’t blame you. There’s like, twenty-, because I keep a track of how long I record stuff just as an interesting thing. There’s 21 and a half hours of stuff. Yeah,

Karin 

Olivia talks a lot!

Kirsty 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s not including because me and Anna have got to still record a little bit more. So that’s not including- not including that bit and anything else I have to redo whenever.

Karin 

Well, we shall see!.

Kirsty 

We will see, yeah.

Karin 

We will see. I’m probably I mean for you, Kiristy, I’m probably gonna ask you to do a few bits and bobs, you know, short bits.

Kirsty 

Good. Not any long!

Karin 

No, no! You’ve done all your monologues. They are all done. But, you know. Maybe a few sentences for a bit.

Kirsty 

Yeah, that’s cool.

Karin 

Yeah. How about you Lorcan? The sort of either tongue twisters or things you got stuck on?

Lorcan 

That one, when you were like, “it’s actually a French word!”. I was like, oh, Carcassone one, something like that. And then it was like, well, it’s actually like Carcassone. I was like, Oh, okay. And I knew even I was like, What? I was like, whaaat? I didn’t know that that was.

Karin 

Okay, I think we’re pretty much done. I was going to ask you to just tell the listeners where they can find you in social media, Twitter or Instagram or wherever. Why don’t you start Kirsty?

Kirsty 

 So, I have Twitter, and Instagram @ Kirsty Woolven. And I’ll spell that because there’s a shocking amount of people who don’t know how to spell Woolven. So it’s K i r s t y W o o l v e n.

Karin 

Beautiful. Lorcan, where can people find you?

Lorcan 

I actually at the moment don’t have any social media. I ended up deleting it because I was like this is actually making me feel kind of not good. So for the moment I’m not sure.

Karin 

Contact me and I will email Lorcan.

Lorcan 

Yeah, yeah,

Karin 

That works! Felicity?

Felicity 

If you look interested in looking at pictures of cooking disasters, and, and foster cats and dogs, then I’m on Instagram @flick.boyd

Karin 

Yeah

Felicity 

 f l i c k . b o y d. So nothing too exciting, but lots of disasters!

Karin 

I follow you on Instagram! I love your your cookies and cats!

Felicity 

You say that. Luckily my partner eats pretty much anything I create. So I’ve got a disposal right there! But um, one day I might actually have success and I don’t know what to do with it.

Kirsty 

The cat paws in the pastry sheet are so adorable!

Felicity 

Yes, see it- I had I had the pastry sheet just thawing on the bench. And the cat knows he is not allowed on the bench! And he just jumped straight up, straight onto the pastry sheet!

Kirsty 

This is Widget?! This is the cat that appeared when we were doing our little read through wasn’t it? like weeks ago!

Felicity

One recording I had you know my door closed and everything and I was recording away and he decided to meow the loudest meow ever! It occurred just as I said “Hello Kat”! I came prepared today in case he interrupted. I’ve got a bag of treats right here to distract him.

Karin

Oh, that’s lovely. It’s lovely. And of course you can find me on Twitter most easily. I think @karinheim that’s K a r i n h e i m. And all of this can be found on our website at y2kpod.com. That’s the number two And as I said, just contact me if you want to get in touch with Lorcan. Okay. And I guess it’s oceans of hugs, maybe oceans of hugs! Bye!

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